Wenger Out ?

All I'll say is he brings all this on himself.

Put ourselves in a brilliant position to win the title for the first time in donkeys years. All he had to do was strengthen the squad at a critical point in the title race to help us push on. He decided to go bargain hunting again. Despite having a shit load of cash having spent fuck all over the years.

Previously there would be board issues or lack of funds given as an excuse. This season it really is down to him and nothing else, that's clear.

Having spent the majority of the season 1st, going into the final few weeks scraping for 4th would be a disgrace.

We've done so well to finally turn our fortunes around but we fuck it up once again. So much progress but so much disappointment.

If you get rid of him you could have a Man Utd effect as every player seems to think he's jesus. On the other hand, for the first time in years I'd actually trust Gazidis to get the right man in as he has seen what's happened to Utd and would want to avoid that. Plus he genuinely seems to want to spend but Wenger is the one reneging on deals, no doubt frustrating Ivan in the process.

I just don't know what to say or think anymore.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

^ From whatever we've seen of Wenger recently, it's that he's not cut out for the job. Yes the transfer fees nowadays are pushed over the top by the oilies, but there are numerous players out there that we could have got had Wenger not haggled over the fee. We have £120m in the bank now (latest financial results), are we asking for all of it to be spent to send us on the brink of being in debt ? No. But the squad has areas which needs investing in, which Wenger doesn't seem to want to address. He couldn't spend the whole summer/jan to find a striker better than Giroud/Bendnter ?

So far the only 'business decision' that is happening with the club is for them increasing their own pockets, charging the fans more and more each season for going to games. (3% increase).

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How much would the chavs and the gypos have to charge for tickets if they didn't have funds robbed from Russians and the real Arab people poured in?

Why didn't we have all this crying after the Sunderland game? Is it really that simple? Win and Wenger can stay. Lose and he has to go? On a match by match basis? That's silly.

Well when you're in a position of being in charge of a sports team, being paid £7m a year, you are solely judged by your teams performances. After all, you're in charge of the players you have and the tactics that are being employed.

8 years and counting of having won nothing.

This defeat signifies the 'Collapse' which happens every year that's why.

Now, even Kroenke doesn't get any flak. It's all Wenger, he's given the funds and doesn't want to spend.

Wenger has become a parody of himself.

For the last 5 or 6 years its been like clockwork...buy players way below standard, not address problem areas, no change in game tactics etc etc and repeat.

How can everyone see the obvious gaps and yet Wenger refuses to address them, its ridiculous and complete arrogance on his part.

Buy Ozil was great, and like many i rejoiced that we were willing to spend again but i genuinely thought either last summer or in January we would buy a pacey striker to complement our abundance of midfielders. Wenger true to form simply could not address or would not address this matter.

He is a guy built on principles which were fine 15 years ago....however it saddens me to say he has not moved with the times, he has been obvious and unimaginative a manager as you can get.

His clear genius still gets him through and yes we do "win" the 4th place trophy....but that maverick, innovative, genius of a manager who came here in 1996 is no longer the same man.

Its not so much a case of Wenger out, its more so a case of we need new direction and if he truly does love this club he will not sign another deal to extend his contract.

Remember that Football Manager player who got a job as a coach of a real football team ? He finished 5th.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-Baku-job.html

Give me the job :coffee: . Not too hard to see where the faults are in this team.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

Well when you're in a position of being in charge of a sports team, being paid £7m a year, you are solely judged by your teams performances. After all, you're in charge of the players you have and the tactics that are being employed.

8 years and counting of having won nothing.

This defeat signifies the 'Collapse' which happens every year that's why.

Now, even Kroenke doesn't get any flak. It's all Wenger, he's given the funds and doesn't want to spend.

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But this just isn't true. Plainly Wenger is not just judged on what happens on the pitch. If anything the board seems to place more emphasis on what he does off the pitch. He gets paid £7mill to generate and extra £40odd million and he's done it every season. I don't like the bias towards business decisions when they are taken at the expense of the team, but the Wenger wage thing and the way the board views it all is not the same thing as the fans' view. Probably never will be and we're not the only club who suffers that. Thieves like Abromovich can PRETEND to share the ambitions of the fans because he has limitless funds to shovel. But he didn't give much of a toss and his true colours were revealed with that whole Shevchenko business, for example.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

Depends on who is given the job.

Moyes was a fail of an appointment.

Owen Coyle would atleast try to fix the team. Wenger does fuck all. I don't see what he does. Tactically we're toothless in attack, transfer market has been shoddy for a long time. He let us get trounced by Liverpool, and made subs at 60 mins when we were out of it.

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Jurgen Klopp FTW. If the club make the offer I am sure Dortmund will let him go.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

Well when you're in a position of being in charge of a sports team, being paid £7m a year, you are solely judged by your teams performances. After all, you're in charge of the players you have and the tactics that are being employed.

8 years and counting of having won nothing.

This defeat signifies the 'Collapse' which happens every year that's why.

Now, even Kroenke doesn't get any flak. It's all Wenger, he's given the funds and doesn't want to spend.

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Kroenke will get a lot, I don't think he will want Wenger or the new manager to completely overhaul the team. It will cost him too much.

NQ I really wish you would let up with the City,United,Chelsea axis of evil B.S. It is the refuge of Loser's. The reasons why Wenger fails is just down to himself and no one else. At times its as if he is actually afraid to win, maybe because, next season,he will be under pressure to win again .Wengers fails because he won't do what it takes to win, pure egomaniac