Bloody too right they do. I have a word for them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
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Bloody too right they do. I have a word for them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Yes, yes you doQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The Southampton away thrashing was when I really started to doubt whether we could sustain the challenge, it was an awful performance and the result was completely unexpected. I didn't expect us to steam roller them but I thought we'd put in a decent performance and get something out of the game. That was the start of the collapse IMO, that defeat really exposed the mental weakness of this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Up until the United away defeat I was still doubting whether this team had the fight in them to challenge for the title but thought we're up against Leicester and the Spuds, surely we can keep apace, we'd just beaten Leicester so the momentum was with us, I thought this is our chance and maybe it's going to be our year at last though I wasn't fully convinced.
The United performance for me was our worst of the season, it was a disgusting and shameful performance, we were 2nd to everything and basically got played off the park by a struggling and injury ravaged United Youth team. I knew that was it after the game, we'd blown it, the title was gone. The defeat was very damaging.
I was numb to it all after that, I wasn't even angry after the Swansea defeat, the season died for me at Old Trafford.
Southampton away was bad but we were still top or near the top at that point so I foolhardily chalked it up to a bad day at the office. Plus, not arguing against the fact that we weren't shit that day but iirc Southampton's goals were incredibly jammy, a once in a blue moon world class strike from a pub team player and Shane Long fouling Kosicenly and getting away with it due to incompetent referring from John Moss (I think?) ........... we probably should have squeezed out a 0 - 0 that day.
Chelsea at home and United away were the massive killer blows. We just incredibly poor and impotent ........ like we didn't want to win the title. Swansea at home was when even the faint hopes were completely extinguished for me. What a shit night that was.
Surely you jest?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Our defence was shocking, we could barely string a pass together and created nothing up front.....whether the goals were legitimate or not brush over the fact that it would have been a travesty for us to have come away with anything but defeat. The attitude of the players stank, we didn't care and we deserved to lose we were certainly not unlucky in any way, shape or form.
Stats say Ozil created 4 chances. I highlight that point because it brings it back to that debate about how many chances we create and if they're of any real quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
That's odd, it's not like you to be facetiousQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I could turn it on it's head and say even in a game where he was apalling he was still creating chances, and if hell freezes over i might watch the whole game in it's entirety and tell you how good the chances were (i.e were the chances the kind a player like Aguero would have snaffled).
But i get the impression that having a debate with you will be as productive as having a debate with the girl i share a house with who at least has the excuse of not having English as a first language, and at least she has the benefit of being attractive.
To be honest this point is hard to assess at Arsenal as we have some real donkeys up front, our strikeforce is just awful and misses chance after chance, only a madman would go into a season with that lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
A more accurate portrayal of what he provides is how he performed at his former clubs and his stats were always very good there.
Ooooh you've tagged yourself inQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Go for it, i don't feel qualified to carry on this debate without continual use of Babelfish
Really? This really has nothing to do with comprehension skills. It just boils down to having a different opinion and you can clearly understand my argument and I clearly understand yours. We just don't agree on certain points. You can attempt to turn this argument on its head and rewatch the match if you wish but you'd then be shifting goal posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Your initial first thoughts on that Southampton game says it all. You don't remember us creating many great chances. That's in line with my thoughts on a lot of games we've played recently. It's why I don't rely on certain stats if they don't line up with what I'm seeing during a game. I can't remember the Southampton game fully but over the past months our game has been stale and we haven't been opening teams up. That's not saying the fault is with Ozil 100%. I think it boils down to the type of movement we have going on in front of him and whether the striker is looking to find space or more interested in dropping deep and wrestling off the defender.
That should be a clear enough point that shouldn't cause much confusion. Whether you agree is a different matter and it's on you to come up with a clear rebuttal if you don't. It's ridiculous to question my intelligence and or grasp of English if you're the one unable to come up with a logical counter argument. :lol: Really!