Silent Stan Speaks

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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)

If 4th place is just an "OK achievement" then why have clubs like Liverpool and Spurs spent so much money trying (and failing, consistently) to achieve it? I agree that it should not be the limit of our ambition but ultimately the league tells you where you are as a club and we've consistently been one of the best 4 clubs in the country over the past 6 years. Some people act like any idiot could have kept us top 4 when other clubs failure to get and stay there (without spending utterly ridiculous sums of money) should show that it's not as easy as some on here indicate.

All that said, given that we've been up there our failure to land a trophy is damning. That is where Wenger has failed.

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I don't think they have, they have spent money to try and win things including maybe the PL...it's not just money spent to be in the top 4, unlike ourselves.

For us top 4 is hailed as some major trophy, for other clubs whilst they are very happy to get into the top 4, they then set their goals higher once achieved, that's not to say they achieve them but at least they try.

A top 4 place is seen as a stepping stone.

I'm talking about clubs like Spurs and Liverpool who have spent shitloads trying and failing to get into the top 4. They've both achieved it here and there but not consistently. Of course City are going for the title but they have effectively infinite resources and can aim higher. And maybe they'll achieve it but you could do it with any club given those resources (the fact they started in mid-table shows that) so it's not much of an achievement.

Top 4 should NOT be the limit of our ambitions, I certainly agree with that. But I think some people are underestimating how hard it is to consistently finish in the top 4 in the PL.

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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)

Ah. Declaring yourself right. Can't argue with that.

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TBF you can count on one hand the amount of times Zimm is proven wrong- and with the deluge of unbelievably unpopular opinions he actually starts off with, that is quite remarkable. /n

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

TBF you can count on one hand the amount of times Zimm is proven wrong- and with the deluge of unbelievably unpopular opinions he actually starts off with, that is quite remarkable. /n

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As for Stan, it's quite clear he knows little about european footballing culture nor does he understand what really makes Arsenal tick. /n/n We're going to have a hard few years ahead of us.

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

TBF you can count on one hand the amount of times Zimm is proven wrong- and with the deluge of unbelievably unpopular opinions he actually starts off with, that is quite remarkable. /n

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Zimms spot on about Wenger. I've admitted that but come on, Ade, Reyes, Aliadiere, Theo, Gilberto, Bendtner, Diaby, Ashley Young etc he's been woefully wrong about. That's more than a hand tbh. Depends on how big the hand is.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

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Originally Posted by Ach

Zimms spot on about Wenger. I've admitted that but come on, Ade, Reyes, Aliadiere, Theo, Gilberto, Bendtner, Diaby, Ashley Young etc he's been woefully wrong about. That's more than a hand tbh. Depends on how big the hand is.

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If it's one of fakeyanks missus', defo on one hand. Tbf.

Its obvious to 99.9% whats wrong with the team.

Some choose to live with their heads in the sand and some dont.

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Originally Posted by Fats

Its obvious to 99.9% whats wrong with the team.

Some choose to live with their heads in the sand and some dont.

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Well of course.

a) Wenger - Defence / Tactics / Softy / Stubborn / French

b) The Board - Greedy / Out of touch / Eton / American

But, there are very few managers with Asrene's pedigree who can satisfy the ultimate power at the club, which are the board.

Blaming Wenger for everything is dumb. Especially when goal posts are moved, credit is not given for good things, and you give no thought to other points of view. Just as stubborn as AW tbh.