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I'm really starting to feel as though he will walk at the end of the season. Can't see him being sacked but at the rate the team is going we will struggle to finish in the top 8. At the end of the season, if we have missed out on Europe I don't think he will have many backers left. His position would become pretty untenable if he felt that unwanted. He'd have to have some balls to continue on.
It will never happen because it would be a wasted protest as the board have said they won't sack him. Unless they invite him to resign which they have not said they won't doQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Wenger must be one of the luckiest men in Football, he's the highest paid Manager in the Prem and he gets rewarded for failure.
Scary thing is he can pretty much botch his way through the season and the Board have pretty much confirmed they will still back him? How many managers in world football who win nothing and take their teams backwards can choose when they leave
Nuts....
Oh i think it would take more balls to leave than to stay, all the noise we hear from our ever more self-delusional board room is that he wont get sacked no matter what, so to stay in a place of no risk and with seemingly no results driven goals is easy, most people would kill for a job like that, especially one with a £6mil a year salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I would actually respect him more if he held his hands up and said "you know what its gone shit, so i am going to let someone else have a go. Bye and good luck"
Pretty much, when you look at what's happened in recent times and the awful results this season (and some last) it's amazing to see him receive so much backing. I can't remember too many managers afforded such luxuries, especially not whilst earning such big money.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I don't think it's ever healthy to have a manager of a top club being in a position he is in, where's his incentive to succeed, now sure I'm sure he'd like to but it's clear that to him it's not a necessity and isn't his primary objective.
I'm not surprised he turned down Real, he wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes there with his views and ways, some clubs demand success others accept failure, I'm not saying we should be winning all the time but we should at least be trying our uppermost to do so, our defeatist attitude is disappointing.
Also that 8-2 result has been swept under the carpet by the board, that was a historical defeat in a sense we've not conceded that many goals or lost by that margin for over a century, the club should be very embarrassed about results like this...sad thing is they don't seem overly concerned.
Oh come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
He's won us two doubles, an FA cup, another league title, and is the most successful manager in our history.
Yes. He's past it. But I still believe he's done an excellent job over the past 6 years in some respects. I know people will say "another manager could have done the same job" with regard to his ability to keep us top four over the last 6 years, but there ain't many....because the high spending Spuds, Leeds etc etc, didn't manage it consistently. So, I'm sorry, you have to give him credit for that too.
He is guilty of being stubborn. He is guilty of losing the plot over the last few seasons. He's guilty of not rectifying the same mistakes which have cost us.
He may be lucky to be in a job right now, granted. But I'd rather our club showed a bit of loyalty to someone who has shown us the same over the years. He could have earnt more elsewhere, when things were really good, but stuck with us.
I think it's disgraceful to say he's the luckiest manager. We've been lucky to have had him you know.
His time is coming to an end no doubt. But don't disrespect the guy who showed you some of the best football we'll ever see at the club.
All true - but our shocking malaise over the past 6 months suggests that he has dropped the ball, and I am worried that sentimentality might end up doing the club more damage. Its a crying shame that Wenger's legacy had to be tarnished like this...Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
The way people judge Wenger isn’t fair.
Was just replying to a criticism of Ancelotti on another thread and because of the blip he had with Chelsea, his whole managerial achievements are called into question.
Shouldn’t the same scrutiny be applied to Wenger? He hasn’t won the league since 2004. He’s never won a major European Trophy and he’s probably lost more cup finals than he’s actually won, or it’s very close.
You take all this into consideration and how we’re losing, it’s got to cast a dark shadow over his career.
Dude, I didn't say that I think we should be giving the benefit of the doubt. I do think his time is up. I just don't believe he has it in him to turn the club around. He needs to go somewhere else and start a fresh. Just like our club needs a fresh change. He's still a top top manager. One of the best IMO, but he's gone stale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
That doesn't mean that the barrage of hate being thrown at him is deserved. I think it's disgusting that some people on here are being so disrespectful to someone who has also brought us such joy. It's been an absolute pleasure watching AW's teams over the years. It's been testing of late, but even last year we witnessed (until February at least) some good football, and some really exciting results.
I just think some on here are spoilt. By all means point the finger at the obvious. By all means bemoan the balls up we've made the last six months. But to treat our most successful manager EVER with such venom an hate, is not acceptable.
IMO if you are going to be praised for your successes, and Wenger has enjoyed a great deal of praise, then you deserve to be criticised for your mistakes. Wenger is tarnishing his own legacy by making such obvious mistakes, yet behaving like he is untouchable. Football moves very, very fast these days, and 2004 seems like a lifetime away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory