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03-01-2012, 12:07 AM
gunnerrrrr

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Originally Posted by Syntos Claus

Grebbo, you say this shit every year. And every year we finish at least 4th. This year will be no different. But I agree that the club won't spend to buy anybody of note. But we've got a decent team. wilshere will probably provide a boost and he's much better than modric.

You are missing the point mate.

We are fucking Arsenal FC..not Spuds, 4th should never be good enough more so when we fans pay what we do to watch these guys.
03-01-2012, 12:12 AM
Grebbo

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Originally Posted by Syntos Claus

Grebbo, you say this shit every year. And every year we finish at least 4th. This year will be no different. But I agree that the club won't spend to buy anybody of note. But we've got a decent team. wilshere will probably provide a boost and he's much better than modric.

I don't actually. Most seasons I say at the start that I'll be happy with fourth - very different statements.

Wilshere is not much better than Modric. It's amazing how much Jack's stock has risen since he's been out. I think people are in for a shock when he comes back, he's still inconsistent and is learning the game. He certainly won't be enough to get us fourth.

I've seen a fair bit of Spurs and they're a very good team, forget about them, they're out of sight - have you seen their upcoming fixtures??

We're in a straight fight with Chelsea. Do you think Chelsea will finish 5th? Chelsea?! I don't.
03-01-2012, 12:14 AM
Marc Overmars

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Originally Posted by Syntos Claus

Grebbo, you say this shit every year. And every year we finish at least 4th. This year will be no different. But I agree that the club won't spend to buy anybody of note. But we've got a decent team. wilshere will probably provide a boost and he's much better than modric.

You've got to admit this year the task of finishing 4th is much different to what it's been in recent years though. We've always been where Spurs are now, on the periphery of the title race but comfortably in the top 4.

This year we're jostling for 1 position with 2 other clubs. I wouldn't be so confident just yet because it looks like going to the wire.

That's also why I think we'll buy this month.
03-01-2012, 09:17 AM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr

people can talk about our move etc as much as they want.
the failings we show are now down to one person - Wenger

Under his stewardship we went from constantly competing for a top 2 position, and make no mistake about it, there were some outstanding teams in the prem during that time, to now struggling to make top 4.

Who is to blame for the contract fuck ups time after time...Edu, Flamini, Nasri and now RVP to name but a few.

I don't disagree with a lot of your post - but I seem to remember a lot of 12th place finishes with the best of recent years prior to him joining being 5th. As for contract fuck ups the blame lies with the Club hierarchy. If Wenger is responsible for agreeing contracts with players, what is the point of Gazidis? If you're right about that - the Board are negligent.
03-01-2012, 11:43 AM
Ralpheroo72

If we dont bring in a permanent partner for RVP, we wont finish 4th. Theo is a talented sprinter and Gervinho is not an out and out striker. We needed a striker in the summer, and Wenger buys Park? Crazy.
03-01-2012, 11:46 AM
Kano

given rvp's form, any 'big name' striker will look and realise he would be spending a lot of time on the bench.

if wenger can find a sub 10 mill striker ready to be patient, then go for it.

but this isn't football manager 2012 and it's not as easy as shopping in tescos.
03-01-2012, 01:06 PM
Coney

Drogba might want to leave Chavs.
03-01-2012, 01:12 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

Drogba might want to leave Chavs.

Not in January and not with CL footie coming up.
03-01-2012, 01:16 PM
Kano

and not to us
03-01-2012, 01:16 PM
Coney

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Not in January and not with CL footie coming up.

np. Just stirring. :good:
03-01-2012, 04:22 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

The irony is Spurs' piddly little stadium and wage bill has produced a team that will finish above us this season. Our massive stadium and wage bill hasn't really produced much.
.

Thats why Spurs want to move to better their long term and thats why they finished above us last season. The reason they are doing better then us is because we lost out best to players they kept theirs, nothing to do with the stadiums.

Their team never had the same pressures ours did start of the season you could even say they are punching above their weight tbf.

i doubt it modric and bale had left they be where they are today.
03-01-2012, 04:25 PM
Marc Overmars

They could be 9 points ahead of us by the time we next play.

:rose:
03-01-2012, 04:28 PM
Cripps_orig

Forget Spurs.

They are away and clear.

We have to hope that Chelsea implode despite their new signings. Cant see it but im an optimistic guy
03-01-2012, 04:30 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

Chelsea will struggle this half of the season and even if they buy it won't change a thing.
03-01-2012, 04:31 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Chelsea will struggle this half of the season and even if they buy it won't change a thing.

Like last season?...

And they were in an even worse run then
03-01-2012, 04:32 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

Forget Spurs.

They are away and clear.

No they're not. They still have a lot of tough away games to come yet. They've not been to City, Chelsea or us.
We've had all our tough away games. We lost most of them, granted, but at least they're out of the way.
If I had to put money on it I'd definitely back Spurs to finish above us. Pains to say it but they look better than us this season.
It's absolutely not done and dusted though, if you've been football more than 5 minutes you'll know a lot can change over, say, 10 games.
03-01-2012, 04:33 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Ach

Forget Spurs.

They are away and clear.

We have to hope that Chelsea implode despite their new signings. Cant see it but im an optimistic guy

2010 - Chavs dressing room. "Forget Arsenal they are away and clear, the title is ALWAYS won in January"
03-01-2012, 04:35 PM
Cripps_orig

No doubt Spuds will lose a few points here and there and they wont be as good in the 2nd half of the season a they were in the first.

However, we'll lose just as many points if not more.
03-01-2012, 04:37 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Ach

No doubt Spuds will lose a few points here and there and they wont be as good in the 2nd half of the season a they were in the first.

However, we'll lose just as many points if not more.

Could be even worse than that. We have half our team to come back so that's not going to help.
03-01-2012, 04:37 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

No doubt Spuds will lose a few points here and there and they wont be as good in the 2nd half of the season a they were in the first.

However, we'll lose just as many points if not more.

Maybe. I'd go so far as to say probably. But it's not done yet. It's not like we're 6 points behind with only 2 games left, there are loads of games left and a lot can happen. They're favourites certainly, but that's all.
03-01-2012, 04:38 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Letters

Maybe. I'd go so far as to say probably. But it's not done yet. It's not like we're 6 points behind with only 2 games left, there are loads of games left and a lot can happen. They're favourites certainly, but that's all.

Don't think they're favourites. They'll be making crappy excuses about lasagne come May.
03-01-2012, 04:39 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Could be even worse than that. We have half our team to come back so that's not going to help.

And when they do come back, the other half will be out injured. Our medical staff is known as the worst in the business for a reason
03-01-2012, 04:40 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

And when they do come back, the other half will be out injured. Our medical staff is known as the worst in the business for a reason

it's not known as the worst in the business. you know this of course.
03-01-2012, 04:41 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Don't think they're favourites. They'll be making crappy excuses about lasagne come May.

That would be nice although unfortunately I actually think they're pretty good this year. We'll see. The pressure may get to them.
03-01-2012, 04:41 PM
Kano

not sure why finishing above spurs is so important, being in top 4 is all that counts.
03-01-2012, 04:42 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Ach

And when they do come back, the other half will be out injured. Our medical staff is known as the worst in the business for a reason

I think if we can be as negative and defeatist as possible it will help the team greatly.
03-01-2012, 04:43 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

not sure why finishing above spurs is so important, being in top 4 is all that counts.

I really shouldn't need to explain to an Arsenal fan why that's important. Although if we do finish above Spurs then we will be in the top 4.
03-01-2012, 04:43 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

not sure why finishing above spurs is so important, being in top 4 is all that counts.

Shitty post ALERT!

The FIRST duty is to finish above the spuds. It's all gravy after that.
03-01-2012, 04:44 PM
Kano

not really and definitely not this season
03-01-2012, 05:08 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

not sure why finishing above spurs is so important, being in top 4 is all that counts.

Stop talking sense only Wummery allowed on here tbh.
03-01-2012, 05:13 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I think if we can be as negative and defeatist as possible it will help the team greatly.

Like yourself and your helpful comments and views on certain players no matter how they play?
03-01-2012, 05:14 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Ach

Like yourself and your helpful comments and views on certain players no matter how they play?

Walcott is shit.
03-01-2012, 05:15 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

Like yourself and your helpful comments and views on certain players no matter how they play?

*BANG*

There goes another ironymeter.
03-01-2012, 05:19 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Letters

*BANG*

There goes another ironymeter.

I think you need to look up the word irony

I praise players when they do well. I just dont think they are the best players in the country as some do on here after a few good games. Kos and Ches are prime examples. You know this of course
03-01-2012, 05:20 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Ach

Like yourself and your helpful comments and views on certain players no matter how they play?

Pot kettle and black come to mind
03-01-2012, 05:21 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Pot kettle and black come to mind

Read above
03-01-2012, 05:28 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

I praise players when they do well.

No. You point score when the players who are your little favourites do well. You dismiss it when they do poorly.
You do the opposite with the players you don't like.

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I just dont think they are the best players in the country as some do on here after a few good games. Kos and Ches are prime examples

No-one on here does that. Most people just call it like they see it when players are having a good, or bad, run of form.
You know this of course.
03-01-2012, 05:30 PM
Cripps_orig

You havent seen people and by people i mean Ollie and MS amongst others so it doesnt really back me up call Kos the best CB in the country and Ches the best keeper in the country?

As for point scoring, maybe. Once upon a time, definitely. I aint going to deny it but nowadays i dont have any favourites so its a bit hard to point score tbf
03-01-2012, 05:32 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

You havent seen people and by people i mean Ollie and MS amongst others so it doesnt really back me up call Kos the best CB in the country and Ches the best keeper in the country?

I haven't but if I did then I'd think it equally ridiculous as someone calling them inept for making a couple of mistakes which cost us when in plenty of other games they've had solid performances.
03-01-2012, 05:33 PM
LDG

That's quite funny seeing as MS nicks all his material from you.

EDIT: @Cripps

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