Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain v Theo Walcott

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

And the third and most important reason, the re-sale value. We already know if the kid delivers on early promises he's not going to be an Arsenal player for very long.

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Its ok he'll be injured for the next 2 seasons then no one will want him

Theo has put an end to this debate today.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Theo has put an end to this debate today.

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And last week, and the week before that, and the last half decade really. Pointless player.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Theo has put an end to this debate today.

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Indeed. Great goal.

Theo :bow:

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

Indeed. Great goal.

Theo :bow:

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Theo at his best, I'm afraid.

Thought both were very good tonight, mainly in the second half.

shame he cant score when he wants to lol

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Theo Walcott: I know my displays haven't been good enough
Theo Walcott accepts he has been below par in recent weeks but insists there's no bigger critic of his performances than himself.
The Arsenal forward, who looked to be rediscovering his form in his side's dramatic 3-2 FA Cup fourth-round victory over Aston Villa yesterday, has been a target for frustrated fans.
He said: "I don't pay any attention to it. I just want to play my game and show people what I can do. I am the best judge of my performance, not anyone else.
"I wasn't happy with my last few games but, hopefully, now I can try to get back to a level I should be at. Everyone should realise I am a good judge of my character."
Walcott, whose goal was sandwiched by two Robin van Persie penalties as Arsenal recovered from 2-0 down at half-time, is desperate to win his first trophy.
The Gunners travel to either Sunderland or Middlesbrough on February 18 or 19 in the next round and the 22-year-old said: "I'd like to look back on my career at the trophies I have won. There are none yet.
"This is a competition that we can win. A couple of big teams have gone out and, if we can come from 2-0 down, hopefully we can beat anybody now."
Walcott revealed a half-time speech from captain Van Persie helped transform the mood in Arsenal's dressing room. "He's the captain and showed again how much he believes in this team and how much he wants to win this competition," said Walcott.

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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...good-enough.do

THEO THEO THEO

Was great yesterday

Hope it continues

Also i see RVP gave the half time team talk

Wenger :wave:

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Walcott revealed a half-time speech from captain Van Persie helped transform the mood in Arsenal's dressing room. "He's the captain and showed again how much he believes in this team and how much he wants to win this competition," said Walcott.

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RvP is the first proper captain we have had for some time - probably since Adams. All the others who have been made captain since Adams have not struck me as leader types. Henry and Gallas I don't think I would have ever considered making them captain. Cesc was promising but I think he was not hard enough to make the players follow. RvP does seem more of a tough player. When he goes to Barca If he leaves, I think Verm is the next natural captain with perhaps Wilshere as vice.

(btw who is vice atm? :unsure: )

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

RvP is the first proper captain we have had for some time - probably since Adams. All the others who have been made captain since Adams have not struck me as leader types. Henry and Gallas I don't think I would have ever considered making them captain. Cesc was promising but I think he was not hard enough to make the players follow. RvP does seem more of a tough player. When he goes to Barca If he leaves, I think Verm is the next natural captain with perhaps Wilshere as vice.

(btw who is vice atm? :unsure: )

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Verm is vice.

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

RvP is the first proper captain we have had for some time - probably since Adams. All the others who have been made captain since Adams have not struck me as leader types. Henry and Gallas I don't think I would have ever considered making them captain. Cesc was promising but I think he was not hard enough to make the players follow. RvP does seem more of a tough player. When he goes to Barca If he leaves, I think Verm is the next natural captain with perhaps Wilshere as vice.

(btw who is vice atm? :unsure: )

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

Verm is vice.

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Ah! good choice then. ;)

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

RvP is the first proper captain we have had for some time - probably since Adams. All the others who have been made captain since Adams have not struck me as leader types. Henry and Gallas I don't think I would have ever considered making them captain. Cesc was promising but I think he was not hard enough to make the players follow. RvP does seem more of a tough player. When he goes to Barca If he leaves, I think Verm is the next natural captain with perhaps Wilshere as vice.

(btw who is vice atm? :unsure: )

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Sagna I think.

Good for Theo that he at least acknowledges how poor he has been. That just leaves Ach on planet earth thinking he's been playing well (not even Theo agrees with him :haha: ) First step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one so hopefully Theo is ready to turn a corner.

Whatever RvP decides, he's given his all to Arsenal this season and hopefully everyone is going to respect him for that. Fantastic player from the old school.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

Verm is vice.

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Really? That's a bit tough on Sagna.

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

(btw who is vice atm? :unsure: )

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Tommy V.

Also, great run and clinical elbowed finish by Walcott yesterday, obviously been taking lessons from Titi.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

First step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one so hopefully Ach is ready to turn a corner.

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:gp:

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

RvP is the first proper captain we have had for some time - probably since Adams. All the others who have been made captain since Adams have not struck me as leader types. Henry and Gallas I don't think I would have ever considered making them captain. Cesc was promising but I think he was not hard enough to make the players follow. RvP does seem more of a tough player. When he goes to Barca If he leaves, I think Verm is the next natural captain with perhaps Wilshere as vice.

(btw who is vice atm? :unsure: )

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Verm is

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

RvP is the first proper captain we have had for some time - probably since Adams. All the others who have been made captain since Adams have not struck me as leader types. Henry and Gallas I don't think I would have ever considered making them captain. Cesc was promising but I think he was not hard enough to make the players follow. RvP does seem more of a tough player. When he goes to Barca If he leaves, I think Verm is the next natural captain with perhaps Wilshere as vice.

(btw who is vice atm? :unsure: )

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Vieira?

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Originally Posted by Ach

Vieira?

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Vieira was a great captain.

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Originally Posted by Ach

THEO THEO THEO

Was great yesterday

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Aye, the way he finished off his backside without knowing a thing about it was fantastic.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Aye, the way he finished off his backside without knowing a thing about it was fantastic.

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His goal was lucky but how he got in to that position wasnt.

His overall game was very good yesterday. Took on players, decent crosses as well and just scared the shit out of Villa whenever he had the ball.

I know hes not one of your favourites and thus will get no credit so lets end this now

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Originally Posted by Ach

His goal was lucky but how he got in to that position wasnt.

His overall game was very good yesterday. Took on players, decent crosses as well and just scared the shit out of Villa whenever he had the ball.

I know hes not one of your favourites and thus will get no credit so lets end this now

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He shouldn't have been in that position. He should have passed it to Ramsey (I think) who was unmarked in the area. Instead he tried to score from some ridiculous angle and got lucky when it bounced off of him.

I didn't see any decent crosses. I did see a lot of crap ones from Walcott though. The only thing he does that scares opponents is run fast, luckily for them even if he gets past them he'll end up kicking the ball off the pitch anyway.

The Ox showed him up again yesterday. I'm hoping that when Gervinho comes back we put him and Oxo on the wings and put Theo on the bench.

Better still find someone stupid enough to buy Theo and pay his insane wage demands (90k is he having a laugh?) and spend the money on someone decent.

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Originally Posted by bignev

He shouldn't have been in that position. He should have passed it to Ramsey (I think) who was unmarked in the area. Instead he tried to score from some ridiculous angle and got lucky when it bounced off of him.

I didn't see any decent crosses. I did see a lot of crap ones from Walcott though. The only thing he does that scares opponents is run fast, luckily for them even if he gets past them he'll end up kicking the ball off the pitch anyway.

The Ox showed him up again yesterday. I'm hoping that when Gervinho comes back we put him and Oxo on the wings and put Theo on the bench.

Better still find someone stupid enough to buy Theo and pay his insane wage demands (90k is he having a laugh?) and spend the money on someone decent.

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:lol:

Only on GW

Match goers and real fans appreciated Theos performance yesterday which was very good and hoping for more of the same.

Ox had a decent game yesterday but better than Theo? :lol:

Behave

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Originally Posted by Ach

His goal was lucky but how he got in to that position wasnt.

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True, it was a good run but a typically awful final ball which he then got lucky with.

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Originally Posted by Ach

His overall game was very good yesterday. Took on players, decent crosses as well and just scared the shit out of Villa whenever he had the ball.

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Tbh I only saw the highlights so I can't judge his performance overall. Others have said he didn't do that well and your opinion has no credibility as you ceaselessly praise him no matter how he plays. I see he's admitted himself his performances haven't been up to scratch. Personally I'm not sure his ability is up to scratch but I'd love to be proved wrong.

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Originally Posted by Letters

True, it was a good run but a typically awful final ball which he then got lucky with.



Tbh I only saw the highlights so I can't judge his performance overall. Others have said he didn't do that well and your opinion has no credibility as you ceaselessly praise him no matter how he plays. I see he's admitted himself his performances haven't been up to scratch. Personally I'm not sure his ability is up to scratch but I'd love to be proved wrong.

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Yet you believe the posters who constantly critisise him no matter what? Ive said hes not played well recently but ive also said hes not a bad player just cos hes off form as many on here seem to think. Had a good season last season where he scored and assisted a few and had a decent start to this season. Hit a bad patch and all of a sudden hes awful? Only on GW :lol:

He's been with us since 2006, that's a hell of a long time to prove that you're good enough and in reality to date how much has he really done to show he's a top player?

How long do you give a player to show he's a real asset to the team and that he's top quality?

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

He's been with us since 2006, that's a hell of a long time to prove that you're good enough and in reality to date how much has he really done to show he's a top player?

How long do you give a player to show he's a real asset to the team and that he's top quality?

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Hes been hit by injury tbh which has hindered him. Keep him fit and he'll score and assist as we saw last season

Theo isnt a problem in this squad. Has his head screwed on right. Glad we have him and AOC in the same team. First teamers for sure now.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Yet you believe the posters who constantly critisise him no matter what?

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I believe the people whose opinions I value. You are not one of them. You would be if I thought you actually said what you think because I generally think you know your football but instead you choose to WUM and point score and it renders your potentially sensible views meaningless.

Theo is too inconsistent.

On his day fantastic

Usually flatters to decieve.

One good game in 10 smacks of laziness and a poor attitude.

Theo didnt have a terrible game yesterday. By his standards, he had a great game. If you want to compare his game to a winger who has got ample opportunities at a top four team, his performance was dismal. Depends on how you judge him.. If we want to be a mid table team, then Theo is a good player for us. If you want to be in the top four or challenge for the title, he should be on the bench for Carling Cup matches (at best).

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Originally Posted by Fats

Theo is too inconsistent.

On his day fantastic

Usually flatters to decieve.

One good game in 10 smacks of laziness and a poor attitude.

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I don't think it's fair to call him lazy. He always tries hard, he's just not very good.

He's like the Incredible Hulk. If you get him angry or get his adrenaline going, he's pretty awesome. Especially finishing.

Trouble is, he has too many woman hormones. And is a bit gay most of the time.

The problem with Theo is that he's not a GHEL.

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Originally Posted by LDG

He's like the Incredible Hulk. If you get him angry or get his adrenaline going, he's pretty awesome. Especially finishing.

Trouble is, he has too many woman hormones. And is a bit gay most of the time.

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Best summary of Walcott here.

I could fix him. And here's how:

1) Tell him he's really shit. He might resist at first and argue otherwise but if you insist enough, he'll cave in because he doesn't like confrontation.
2) Tell him - even though he's shit - he can do 2 things: Run very fast and finish...and so he can carve out a decent career as a fraud by kicking the ball behind the opponent, chasing it down and going for hit-and-hope efforts. No fancy passes or flicks, he has to just do exactly that.
3) Tell him if he doesn't kick the ball behind opponents, chase it down, and shoot at least 3 times a half, he'll be out of the squad and a move to Doncaster beckons.


And you'll have an effective player who scores 20 goals a season. He can score goals - just needs a manager who can give him credible threats.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

I don't think it's fair to call him lazy. He always tries hard, he's just not very good.

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I dont see him trak back on quite a few occasions. Having said that people say Ramsey also tries hard, he does not. Just watch Theo and Ramsey for 15 minutes closely. Real lack of desire.

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Originally Posted by Fats

I dont see him trak back on quite a few occasions. Having said that people say Ramsey also tries hard, he does not. Just watch Theo and Ramsey for 15 minutes closely. Real lack of desire.

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Do you have a cousin called Charlie, by any chance?

On current form I think Ox clearly comes out on top of this one. He’s been excellent in the last two games and really looks like he could be a big player for us.

As many have said he seems to have much more natural ability than Walcott. He looks like a ‘proper’ winger and his positive performances have actually highlighted a lot of Walcott’s weaknesses.

But to be fair to Theo I think until the last month or so he was actually having his best season for us to date. And I thought that whilst Theo had somewhat of a stinker in the first half yesterday, he was much, much better in the second half and played a big role in us winning the match, which he doesn’t seem to have got much credit for.

So overall I think Ox is the better player, if not now then he certainly will be in a year or two’s time.

But personally, once we’ve got our key fullbacks back I’d love to see a front three of Ox, RVP and Theo going at teams. That’s potentially a very dangerous attacking force. One that I could see it causing massive problems for anyone’s defence.

That's a bit harsh.

Theo is a trier, he's just a limited player.

Ramsey is slow and heavy on his feet, but he does have an engine. His downfall is that he requires too much time on the ball to pick his pass, and for some reason tries stupid little flicks. He needs to remember he's not a tiki-taka student, but a filthy Welsh GHEL.

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Originally Posted by Fats

I dont see him trak back on quite a few occasions. Having said that people say Ramsey also tries hard, he does not. Just watch Theo and Ramsey for 15 minutes closely. Real lack of desire.

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Fair enough.

I disagree entirely.

What I don't like about Theo is how he's started getting all a bit petulant - particularly with his teammates. Looking a bit like he believes the hype....