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If you're going to just declare yourself right then we have nothing to talk about :good:
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
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If you're going to just declare yourself right then we have nothing to talk about :good:
Yeah, we don't and you can join the ignore list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He can also go missing at LB, we've seen it before. It's almost like he wants a more ambitious role, I still feel he's being wasted as a defender. l felt that as soon as he started here at arsenal. The aggression and technique would suit a midfield role, like song moving permanently from CB to DMF/CMF.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
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Good WUMing from png
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
The anger at this defeat was based on the fact that we've seen matches like this too often this season, especially against teams that close down quickly and are committed to the cause. It was the sheer predictability of the defensive howlers that frustrated fans so much. It's not a one off defeat, we've seen these sorts of uninterested performances at irregular intervals for the best part of 5 years now. We can't blame City's "financial doping" or referees for these failures, the buck stops with the manager for failing to motivate and organise the players to deal with these sorts of threats, and for buying players who are obviously not at the level required if you want to at least compete with the best teams in the League and Champions League.
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Originally Posted by Letters
No, we all said that this is a stupid trend that happens every freaking season. How most of you cannot seem to comprehend that is beyond me? Every season, we go on an unbeaten run and this happens without FAIL! But where do we end up come the end of the season?! No where..
I posted this to ur profile but the real stats are not P8 W7 L1
It is P31 W18 L9 and out of every cup competition.
You've changed the subject entirely. My original comments were directed at the idea TV and Wenger should be out because they aren't of a sufficient standard. My argument was we're 3rd in the table and if you want to go up another level then get the chequebook out. This is simple to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Don't disagree about improving at the squad level in terms of preparation, tactics and the like. But that has nothing to do what I was talking about. You're the guy who insisted the board shouldn't be discussed. I was just explaining to somebody else why being 3rd isn't grounds for sacking everyone.
I get buzzed when we win and pissed off when we lose too, just like everyone. But there are some pretty crazy swings going on with some people. It's silly.
What? We slumped when we lost all our full backs. We raised our game when they returned. Before that we were all over the place when we lost all our central defenders. If we had bags of cash (which we do) we could buy quality replacements. But we don't spend the money and we make do with players like Djourou and Chamakh. And other lightweights too, to be fair, but hard to criticise them for their efforts over recent weeks. We're nowhere near either of the Manchester clubs and take a look at their goal difference too. They have the squads to compete across a full season, we get a few key injuries and we're screwed. A few more points here or there and we still would be third. I think people are underestimating the value of those 21 points we've recently picked up. If a few weeks ago anyone had been asked will we have 21 out of the next 24 points they would have said no way because it seemed too fanciful. 21 out of 24 is not grounds to get on the team and manager's back again. They've hit third despite the lack of investment and that's pretty good really. Thought it was going to be a lot worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
And thats the sad part, isnt it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
We will still have WUMger showing 4th place as the biggest trophy.. he will say that to be where we are after being 17th is a great achievement, like he wasnt the person who put us in that shit hole in the first place! :lol:
IF we end up being 3rd or 4th, then we must have an open top bus parade... heck its the biggest trophy we will win under AW. I still think we will do everything possible to fuck our chances of top 4. As I write this, Spurs are winning and Chelsea won yesterday... Oh, guess who we play next week? City!! :haha:
Fucking man up would you. Oh, the spuds are winning, the chavs are winning, we're going to get caught. Let's hope the team has more bollocks than some of the fans or else we really are in for a hiding.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
I suppose you were shitting it going into every game of that 7 match run eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
They definitely dont have more bollocks than me... they have shown that for 6 seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It will all be OK when we beat citeh. :good:
City will beat us 0-2.
the point LETTERS is that no one appointed you judge over who is being childish and throwing their toys out of the pram. Your opinion is no more valid than any others here. People have a right to be pissed at yesterdays result because not only was it a bad result. IT WAS A BAD PERFORMANCE. Devoid of the required input from a team looking to achieve its now stated target of 3rd. 3rd is significantly more valuable than 4th for reasons we are all aware of. Even Wenger accepted this after the match
Moreover the major point is that we have been here before, last season and the one before that and so on. The club is stagnating, and no improvement is visible year on year. Wenger now comes out and lambasts the team when it is obvious he shares the main blame for poor selections and preparation. Notghing will change with this man still in charge.
The worrying thing is that we have seen monumental collapses like last season when we lost something like 5 of the last 8 and were just lucky to stay in 4th. Wenger and his team have previous in this regards.
We should not keep making excuses for the man
Yes, I was... I have mentioned it every thread that we have this unbeaten run every season where fans get blinded by Arsene's genius! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
Our specialty in completely imploding after losses is very well known... dont believe me? 07/08 after Eduardo's leg break, 09/10 after losing to Barca, last season after losing to Birmingham. We are going into a game against City coming off the back of a loss to one of the crappiest team in the league. I am more confident in recent AW's team at imploding and completely pissing off the season, rather than them picking up and winning.
I'm not criticising this team at all, i'm happy at where we are at all, but the reality is City and United with all their money, aren't miles ahead of us at. We have the ability to compete with them. Let's be honest, this is not a great era of football players, with the right type of signings we could compete with those fukkers and anybody else. Look at City with all the money they spend, if Silva aint performing, they look ordinary, same for Manc with Rooney, Madrid with Ronaldo and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
My point is, lets use money as an issue, because we were competing before, and we didn't have the money United and all the other big Euro clubs had.
Oh hai. Football must be very fulfilling for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
It is... I treat recent AW teams like a retarded child you have. You love it and hope that one day, the child will get better and be like the other kids but realistically you know that its not going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
I love Arsenal and I will still watch if they are in the Championship or in League 1. I just want us to get rid of AW and start afresh.
Yesterdays result compounded by the c..nts winning this afternoon! Adebayor is a traitor wanker who I fucking hate!! Pissed off right now!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Why is this messianic status being accorded to Wenger!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He isn't, I told you, he isn't!
The answer can't be the same to both questions.
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Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
Blast from the past! Welcome back, Jen's Face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jens' Face
Hate to say it, but Harry Redknapp does not have massive funds! But look at the spuds! In my opinion, they will get third. Even if Wenger had money given to him, he would waste it on signings from fucking japan or something! He is just tactically inept. Not sure who would replace him though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Forget arry, look at SAF.. utd don't spend anywhere close to Chelsea n city yet look at where they are n where we are! One person is concerned about things on the football pitch while the other is busy getting low with the board and being their mouthpiece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
We'll be ok against city, as long as Wenger doesn't play silly buggers by having players playing out of position to satisfy his madness
No it isn't. But I have the right to express it as does everyone else. I haven't stopped anyone else expressing their opinion but I have the right to express mine and say what I think of other people's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Below us, having once had a 10 point gap over us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
'Arry :bow:
And he's spent a lot more than Wenger, while we're at it. He's a decent manager but he ain't the messiah.
That is a more valid comparison but Ferguson is just about the best manager of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
It's like comparing someone to Usain Bolt, realising they're not as fast and concluding they must be shit.
Ferguson > Wenger, clearly. But Ferguson > everyone, so it's irrelevant.
The more relevant question is who could we realistically replace Wenger with, given that the board wouldn't change and they set the agenda, who would do better? I'm not saying there is no-one out there who could but I'd suggest the list is not as long as you seem to think.
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Originally Posted by Letters
Now don't challenge my opinion or I'll put you on ignore :angry:
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We were gonna drop points and have an off day at some point. Happens to every team. As long as we don't go on a massive losing streak. Which I don't think we will.
Meh.
On to City. Time to beat the shit out of that little lesbian.
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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
If you're going to wum leave me out of it.
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I forgot, you're not allowed to criticise Wenger on this message-board, otherwise the pro-Wenger brigade will come down on you like a ton of bricks for "wrong" thinking :yawn:
http://arseblog.com/wp-content/uploa.../04/slip23.jpg
Anyway, the above frame shows how Arteta's to blame for the second goal. He completely fails to track Diakite's run, despite being the deepest lying midfielder (Song is ahead of him). For those who say he's playing as the DMF so we shouldn't expect creativity from him and he's doing a good job "ticking things over", well shouldn't we also expect from our defensive midfielder that he should track off the ball midfield runners? Arteta obviously doesn't have the experience or ability to play this role, having never done this in his life, so why is he playing there?
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Sad for the player as much as the fans really he doesnt deserve to have his reputation destroyed like this.
He's doing it to himself. He had plenty of game time and didn't deliver. Now he doens't even look to get involved in the play or get into decent positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
Pointless player.
he is an aerial player in a team that doesn't have an aerial game, he also plays with his back to the goal while midfielders overlap him, which ours don't. The only surprising thing so far is that Wenger hasnt stuck him on the right wing to "improve his decision making"Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Oh and i see Bendtner scored again for Sunderland...a header...
Fucking Wenger :ilt:
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Originally Posted by Joker
I see no point in over-analysing it.
It's clear we didn't play well. The boss admitted as much, and I'm sure the players know they didn't play well.
Yes, Arteta is to blame in this instance. Shock horror, player makes a mistake. Every football match in history is littered with mistakes made by individuals. Why do we have to have a witch hunt every time?
The guy has been excellent for us this season.
We were off. We didn't play well, and deservedly got beaten. Shit happens. Let's just move on.
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Originally Posted by Flavs
I don’t rate Chamakh but I agree that we could make better use of what he has to offer. When he does come on, we have to at least start whipping in crosses and it would also helped if he had a strike partner playing alongside him so they can create space for each other with dummy runs.
If we’re going to keep playing a 4-3-3, then you’re right about overlapping runs. Theo would work well with him, but we’d need a central player that also makes runs into the box from deep like Cesc used to. Ox would probably fit the bill. That kid isn’t afraid to shoot from outside the area. But I don’t see Wenger changing anything to accommodate him. He’s low on confidence and will probably be sold at the end of the season.