Watching that was like being forced to watch the box set of that shit BBC show El Dorado.
1 goal against the 2 worst teams in the division. No creativity in midfield, and we may as well have no one up front.
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Watching that was like being forced to watch the box set of that shit BBC show El Dorado.
1 goal against the 2 worst teams in the division. No creativity in midfield, and we may as well have no one up front.
errrrrrrrrr we don't have anyone up front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
I know that.......
.......exactly my point........
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Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead
Ug. Awful, awful, awlful.
But it was 3 points and we desperately needed a win today so I'll take it.
Santos' sense of positioning is...well, he has no sense of positioning. Always out of position and leaving us exposed down the left. Just a poor performance all round, very few positives to take from today other than the win.
ManYoo will tear us a new one next week :(
It won't quite be the holocaust it was last year and I expect us to actually play well, whether we can get a result though is an entirely different thing and I doubt it.
It generally goes one of two ways - a thumping or a game where we look the better team, fail to convert when we're playing well and end up losing 2-1. I agree it'll probably be the latter provided we had the same team out as yesterday. Our On Paper™ quality was, I must say you know, tremendous.
You can maybe get away with playing Ramsey IF you have 10 other good players on the pitch. Ramsey is like the broken part in a machine, can the machine compensate or will the fucked part seize everything else? It's borderline with Ramsey. Now you add Gervinho. Now add Santos. Now add Mannone (who saved us points yesterday but I'm talking 38 games). Theo is on the blink, sometimes he works, sometimes he's 100% non-functional, like yesterday. The parts are fragile too, we have to put extra strain on the Wilsheres and Artetas and Cazorlas so there's more chance of them getting fucked up for half their career. The few genuinely decent players we have left (who we will sell) cannot carry the shite AND compete with the opponent. What's more, as soon as he's fit again Diaby will be put back in that team to make it even worse. Giroud? What a joke. A player whose sole responsibility is to make expansive Gallic gestures as he fucks up everything that comes his way. Chamakh used to look the worst player we ever signed. Now he's starting to blend in with the other shit. Lazy Arshavin is starting to look a worldbeater again, in comparison to the dross we have on the pitch. Then team has been sold, the dregs are in the majority now. Peter Hill Wood thanks us for our interest in the pillaging that's going on, how kind of him.
We go into another Utd match with zero chance of a result and hoping it's not another low point in the history of the club. This is failure by all concerned whichever way you cut or spin it.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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simply put, a turd is a turd
He hit the bar, good hit on target from distance, made the tackle which led to our winning goal. He did more good than even Cazorla yesterday. He's useful enough as a squad player but it's not his problem injuries allow him a way in. He has to wait for 2 out of Arteta, Cazorla, Wilshere and Diaby to be injured before he can have a go at CM. And Oxlade will take his role out-wide. The more worrying thing about Ramsey is that he doesn't seem to have anything special about him - he'll be decent enough to have around as a squad player (and we do need the jack of all trades types to fill-in) but, for his career, he has to become better than everyone else at something..otherwise he'll just stay a mid-table player. I think his strengths are playing in the Cazorla role and getting the ball on the edge of the area. He thinks quite fast and wriggles his way through when defenders are scared to bring him down (like against Southampton). His passing game is below par.
His best hope is as a Steven Gerrard type as an advanced midfielder, be that central or from wide. I mean he's the only one on the team who plays Hollywood balls, Vermaelen aside. For that he would need to really improve as a goalscorer and his dynamism in his running. It would be a pretty lame fall if he was reduced to playing the Benayoun run-up-and-down role for the rest of his career. Everyone seems to hate the guy but I do still think he'll be good for us.
He does go on a bit doesnt he. Its tiring on a Sunday morning having to plow through one page essays without even paragraphs to keep you awake!
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Originally Posted by Maestro
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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
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Originally Posted by jelgoon
NQ :pal:
The turd being the team, not Ramsey. Ramsey's an average player who could do well somewhere like Norwich where they don't have delusions of grandeur.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
indeed the team, from what i read in your post. i am beginning to think our Lazaresque ability to always make the top four is more an indictment on the poor quality of the league (i.e. teams below us), rather than proof of any real quality on our part.
That is how I feel about it. There has never been a team that we've had consistent scraps with each season to get top four. With the league title, you can usually identify the three too teams that will be title contenders. It's never the case for the top 4 because teams can never build on their success from the previous season. This year may be different but we've seen Spurs, Villa, Everton, all challenge one season then they're abysmal the following year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
In La Liga, Valencia are probably the team more comparable to us in regards to success and league position but they always have to worry about teams like Sevilla, Althletico Madrid and Villareal. We've never really seen that sort of threat in our league. For all talk about La Liga being weak, those teams could give any of our teams a run for their money in a match.
Athletico Madrid look like they could win La liga this season tbh. I think the reason people say its a weak league is because its always been won by Real or Barca. Least thiis league you have a few teams that can win it or challenge for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
3 points we really needed. That'll do for now.
Barca and Real live on a different planet compared to the other teams. It's like Man Utd, Chelsea and City in this league but even better because besides the money, they also have the tradition and appeal. They share the world's best players between them. World Player of the Year candidates and winners. People say it's a weak league but I always disagree with that. They have the best players, besides having the most feared teams in the Champs League, they also do well in the Eurorpa League. Our English teams hardly ever win it or do well in that comp. Spain are the best international team. Two European Cups and a World Cup...England...no point in going there. The Prem is an exciting league but not the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
La liga is a good league and probs the world best, they have a few good teams, the big 2 Athletico Madrid,Malaga, Valencia. I still think the Epls is the most Exciting league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
same here. he will turn out to be a fantastic player somewhere, if not for us. not his fault he is being another wenger experiment out on the wing killing his game. he has become scapegoat of the moment for arsenal fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
Lets be honest h has not been the same since he broke is leg, Ramsey has something but i think he will take a few years to develop into a quality player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Disagree with that statement. He's been fine since coming back from injury. He's always been a reckless passer. In early games I remember him doing blind passes across the middle of the park that got intercepted and leading to goals or dangerous moments. He hasn't grown out of that and still lacks awareness. Lack of awareness is more down to menality and intelligence. He lacks in that area and since losing Cesc and Nasri, the creativity, the responsibility to play possession play and on the pivot has fallen on to his shoulders and he can't handle it. As said, his awareness has always been a bit poor. He hasn't lost his ability to shoot though and when Cesc, Wilshere and Nasri were in the team, he'd often get shooting space and that's when people started to rate him.
He has definitely lost sharpness since the injury.
I agree. The Spuds collapse last season is a good case in point. It was actually quite hard for them to fuck it up that badly without suggestions of match fixing. I still think itll be between us and the scum for fourth spot - forget about us getting in the top three.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
Strange, because many claimed he had his best game against City where he played wide right, and against Everton last season, wide left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Equally, I agree he looked more comfortable when he moved inside on Saturday.
It's almost as if his position is largely irrelevant, and that his ability to play badly or well is down to chance.
His passing and dispossession stats are actually much better this year compared to last, so hopefully he's working on his technical weaknesses. What's clear is that he definitely needs to because right now, he is a long hard road from fantastic.
i read somewhere (one of the papers) that are goal wasnt offside because one of their players was off the pitch behind the goal but was active play and deemed to be playing everyone onside?
true or not?
Nelsen wasn't off the pitch no but I don't know if the fact Ramsey's touch was intended means it should've been allowed. Either way, nevermind.
I turned off the stream after 75 mins, was disgusted couldn't take anymore of it.
Glad we won, this season is going to make for painful viewing, too many gaps of quality in the team and squad...we're effectively playing with no striker too.
he is deployed there in games particularly away from home where keeping possession is paramount and he is not strictly a winger as he is used more to increase the numbers in the middle and keep our pretty little triangles going. doing that does not help his game at all, especially for a young player coming back from a leg break and trying to develop his own game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
of course, he has played quite a number of games in the middle and has had a stinker too, so his bad performances are not exclusively down to that reason.
The Flanks have traditionaly been the "nursery" for Wenger's project players. Denilson, Eboue, Diaby & et al have all played there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
To be fair to Rambo he's turned in a few really decent performances on the flanks, I thought he had a great game up at City a few weeks ago, he did well when moved into the middle too.
Rambo is clearly Wenger's "Pet Project" this season, there's always one every season. :rolleyes: