Everton v Arsenal Match Reaction

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

We really might have to buy KJH in Jan tbh.

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Kim Je Heoun?

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Originally Posted by JoshGooner

A sad reality indeed. I still have immense respect for the man and can't bear to see him on a path to destroying his legacy.

After all, he's who made this club what it is, and the reason why we have something to moan on about, now that the glory days he produced are gone.

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:gp:

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

He has already said that we are unlikely to buy big in January. Cant see Huntelaar coming to Arsenal. Park coming back, will be 'like' a new signing.

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I never said has coming, i said we may need to buy him.

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Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead

At the moment we're on target for 57 points wich would've got us 7th last season.

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Is that ok for the 7th place trophy or are we lacking a little bit of sharpness and thus too early?

Let me know if there is a waiting period for finding out the answer to this.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

yeah, in a full flowing team giroud would score and set up a stack of goals but he isn't a top tier striker, not lethal enough. he'd be 3/4 choice at a top four team.

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I was confident we'd finish 4th but turgid performances seem to be the norm now, the Spurs game was an anomaly. I reckon you called it right with 5th.

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

you are so right, it´s so numbingly boring now, it is like dead but just not quite dead. I wish I knew why. I believe in Arsene´s integrity and if he felt he had enough he would resign. He´s got enough money for all this shit but something holds him in this job. I wonder what that is.

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Mrs Thatcher thought she was doing a good job. Couldnt believe it when the Rabbits in tweed suits plucked up enough courage to ask her to step down

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

I never said has coming, i said we may need to buy him.

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Chill Winston, I wasnt having a go.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Kim Je Heoun?

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We'd do well with someone able to dictate something in that final 3rd for us.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I was confident we'd finish 4th but turgid performances seem to be the norm now, the Spurs game was an anomaly. I reckon you called it right with 5th.

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it's the stat i threw up earlier that should be a huge concern for wenger. 13 in 11 games shows how poor we have been going forward and it is completely out of the norm for his teams.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

ego and pride can be as damaging as they are helpful.

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you can´t do this job without ego and pride, look at other even unsuccessful managers, they have ego and pride bigger than universe. It´s the desire, he must still have the desire to carry on with this. I wish I knew what he is thinking.

that's why i said they are helpful; as they're essential for the job. but if you don't realise that you are losing touch with the team and the game, that ego/pride combo can leave you blinded to what everyone else can see. of course i don't know for sure but it seems pretty reasonable to suggest.

Seems some people can't take a joke :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Is that ok for the 7th place trophy or are we lacking a little bit of sharpness and thus too early?

Let me know if there is a waiting period for finding out the answer to this.

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Do other managers say we were shit when they lose points?

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

Do other managers say we were shit when they lose points?

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Yes

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Is that ok for the 7th place trophy or are we lacking a little bit of sharpness and thus too early?

Let me know if there is a waiting period for finding out the answer to this.

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Can we win the race to 7th? Perhaps. It's hard to say but I believe we have the quality in the squad to fight. However we must observe the waiting period.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

that's why i said they are helpful; as they're essential for the job. but if you don't realise that you are losing touch with the team and the game, that ego/pride combo can leave you blinded to what everyone else can see. of course i don't know for sure but it seems pretty reasonable to suggest.

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Fair comment but that´s assuming Arsene is the only guy at AFC, where are the others? maybe he´s bloody fed up to fend off for dividend taking c-nts?

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Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead

Can we win the race to 7th? Perhaps. It's hard to say but I believe we have the quality in the squad to fight. However we must observe the waiting period.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Yes

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give me one verifiable quote, apart from when they lose heavily they say we were not good enough, give one quote from amanger saying we were shit after a draw.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Yes

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Never heard one manager say his team was shit.

In happier times this result wouldn't be seen as a disaster.
Everton haven't lost at home in the league yet and they beat Utd at their place.

We are looking worryingly mid-table but no-one bar the top 2 are looking much good.

In brief: meh.

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

Fair comment but that´s assuming Arsene is the only guy at AFC, where are the others? maybe he´s bloody fed up to fend off for dividend taking c-nts?

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true but if we're strictly talking about what happens on the pitch, then it comes down to him. we should be performing better than we are with this squad really. sad as it is, i think he's reached the end of being able to evolve our team. the play looks stagnant and 7 years of banging your head against the wall can do that to a man.

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

Fair comment but that´s assuming Arsene is the only guy at AFC, where are the others? maybe he´s bloody fed up to fend off for dividend taking c-nts?

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I think he is off end of the season.

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

give me one verifiable quote, apart from when they lose heavily they say we were not good enough, give one quote from amanger saying we were shit after a draw.

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Come on Ferguson has come out in the past when his team has been poor and said as much and there are plenty of other examples.

Here's one of Ferguson saying they were poor after winning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19694487

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

true but if we're strictly talking about what happens on the pitch, then it comes down to him. we should be performing better than we are with this squad really. sad as it is, i think he's reached the end of being able to evolve our team. the play looks stagnant and 7 years of banging your head against the wall can do that to a man.

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come on, man for man this team is not better than Everton´s, why do we assume that our journeymen should get better league position that theirs year after year?

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Never heard one manager say his team was shit.

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They won't use the word "sh*t" in an interview obviously...but does anyone really have to say that.

Very poor = sh*at in interview talk

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Come on Ferguson has come out in the past when his team has been poor and said as much and there are plenty of other examples.

Here's one of Ferguson saying they were poor after winning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19694487

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You should've used fergie fuck's reaction to when they beat us the other week. He was pissed off they didn't score more!

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

come on, man for man this team is not better than Everton´s, why do we assume that our journeymen should get better league position that theirs year after year?

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i not saying we should be top four but we should putting up a better fist of things. i didn't see tonights game but it sounds identical to several others this season. there is no drive to our game and it seems most teams know how to kill any sort of threat we might attempt.

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Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead

You should've used fergie fuck's reaction to when they beat us the other week. He was pissed off they didn't score more!

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:lol: there's plenty of examples out there that's for sure....but yeah that would have been a good one!

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Come on Ferguson has come out in the past when his team has been poor and said as much and there are plenty of other examples.

Here's one of Ferguson saying they were poor after winning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19694487

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well they were lucky and Wenger said it many times as well that they were "·a little bit lucky", but that´s his french way of saying things

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

well they were lucky and Wenger said it many times as well that they were "·a little bit lucky", but that´s his french way of saying things

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tbf i think i remember hughes laying into his team at swansea at the start of the season. some managers do show their true feelings post game.

i don't really care what he says post match because the proof is in the pudding out on the pitch. i'd hate for him to lay into us and then we turn out the same in the next match. he does his politician thing post and pre-match so it is what it is. the 90 minutes count for far more.

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Originally Posted by Guns of Gibraltar

well they were lucky and Wenger said it many times as well that they were "·a little bit lucky", but that´s his french way of saying things

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Wenger barely ever says stuff like this, most of the time it's ignorant cr*p that makes him sound like he was watching a different match.

People say he does it behond closed doors, my question is why don't you ever see a reaction from the team then?

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i don't really care what he says post match because the proof is in the pudding out on the pitch. i'd hate for him to lay into us and then we turn out the same in the next match. he does his politician thing post and pre-match so it is what it is. the 90 minutes count for far more.

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Spot on, this is why when peoplle say about Santi not looking pissed when we loose is a big thing.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Wenger barely ever says stuff like this, most of the time it's ignorant cr*p that makes him sound like he was watching a different match.

People say he does it behond closed doors, my question is why don't you ever see a reaction from the team then?

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Players have said loads of times he had done it behind doors. Its him doing not doing it on tv which is moaned about.

Its not about seeing reaction, the sqaud is not good enough, its not going to come and play well every match.

I don't think it matters what Wenger says in public, you know he'll always be stubborn and defensive. What we see on the pitch is a reflection of his work anyway, it's not good enough and anything he says in public won't change that.

What happens when you don't have leaders in your team. This is where the big players should be stepping up. How can they play brilliant vs spurs but teams like Villa they don't turn up.

Thats where a RVP or Cesc would have taken those games by the horn. We have no one to do that now really.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

What happens when you don't have leaders in your team. This is where the big players should be stepping up. How can they play brilliant vs spurs but teams like Villa they don't turn up.

Thats where a RVP or Cesc would have taken those games by the horn. We have no one to do that now really.

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Cesc with the horn, must have missed that, siesta maybe, horn nah

Wenger

"We have shown outstanding spirit"

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Were Everton as dominant as they looked on MOTD? They should have had a penalty as well. We got away with one there

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Wenger

"We have shown outstanding spirit"

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Is that a direct quote from tonight?

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Originally Posted by Ach

Were Everton as dominant as they looked on MOTD? They should have had a penalty as well. We got away with one there

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They were all over us.