And a lot of people would assume we'd be happy with CL football for 16 seasons...
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Motherfucking BOOM.
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It's not really the Champions league though is it, it's a tournament for a fair amount of losers as well (mostly losers in fact).
In addition it's a slightly different case, we're a big club, historically one of the biggest in England and should really have a chance of winning it at some point, all we do is make up the numbers until a decent teams shows up to give us a pasting.
I'd be prouder of our record if something different happened from time to time, not just the predictable stuff we see every season. The fact we sit there and change nothing and hope things change really isn't very satisfying at all.
Neither is watching every other English side pick up the trophy instead of us. I actually enjoyed the CL more pre 2005 when although we didn't do that well you just believed we had a chance and the result was less predictable, it's not all about winning, it's also about unpredictability and having the belief that there's an outside chance it could happen.
Possibly, but it would have been a harsh red. Owen's was a definite red, not because of any challenge but because he lifted his hands to an opponent, and as we well know from commentators gloating at our players getting sent off over the year, you can't do that. But the ref ignored it. At least he had the balls to give a legitimate goal and not listed to that crappy linesman. So break even.
I still don't know what that linesman was thinking, because it wasn't even marginal. Theo couldn't have been complicating things because he was standing well offside. The only defence I can make is that he couldn't see, from his angle, whether or not Theo was in line with the goalkeeper's view and so wanted to ask the referee. But either way it was very weak.
In hindsight I don't think you'd want to see Owen being sent off for something like that. It was handbags and players should be laughed at. A proper punch would be different, but I suspect Arteta would've been rolling on the floor like footballers do if there was actually a hint of pain. Looking at the replay, Arteta's challenge was absolutely fine, and clean.
Jack finally decided to pick on someone his own size.
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That's why the handshake tradition in football is stupid. What's the point of that? They clearly hate eachother.
I have now watched and these are my findings:
I still don't know what that linesman was thinking, because it wasn't even marginal. Theo couldn't have been complicating things because he was standing well offside. The only defence I can make is that he couldn't see, from his angle, whether or not Theo was in line with the goalkeeper's view and so wanted to ask the referee. But either way it was very weak.
In hindsight I don't think you'd want to see Owen being sent off for something like that. It was handbags and players should be laughed at. A proper punch would be different, but I suspect Arteta would've been rolling on the floor like footballers do if there was actually a hint of pain. Looking at the replay, Arteta's challenge was absolutely fine, and clean.
Thank-you.
That's alright.
I hate you all.
Wilshere :bow: :bow:
Podolski :bow: :bow:
Stoke :pal: :pal:
Didn't watch the game, good to see us get a win, heard Monreal played well which is another bonus.
On to the next one.
We've never been a club that has been able to compete with the big elite clubs when it came to spending and have always steered clear of a bidding war. If a player starts to make a name for himself with a smaller club and manages to get on the elite clubs radar, we've never thrown our hat into the ring. That's how it's always been under Wenger. During the Highbury years under Wenger, we were never battling it out with United to sign players and competing for the marque players. We weren't involved when they were making bids for internationals like Rio, Veron and Ronaldinho. We were never involved in the big money moves back then so it's wrong to suggest we would have been had not Chelsea arrived. World record bids were being made way back then when guys like Crespo, Veri, Figo and Zidane were on the scene and Real Madrid were spending silly money. We supposedly built the stadium to be able to compete with those clubs.
Prices have been inflated but even if they weren't I doubt we'd get involved in a bidding war for players because that's never been our style. This bring me to the second part of the argument and the bit highlighted in bold. There are plenty of cheap players out there that aren't on the top clubs radars and are within our price range but we don't make a move for them. We've seen what Pardrew is doing with Newcastle and it's like he's pulling a Wenger with some of his buys. How has he got the inside lane on Wenger's on territory and where he should be the expert? There have been plenty of cheap players that we could have moved for but we haven't over the years. Now it looks like we're slowly getting back to our old ways with the signing of Podolski, Cazorla, Merts, Moreal, Giroud but we're still way to cautious in the transfer window and have missed out on players that could have helped us years ago and maybe wrapped up some silverware or at least convince some of our wantaway stars to commit to the club. There are some real gems playing for some of the mid level teams and they'd have done a much better job than some the players we have currently so we can't keep blaming our transfer inactivity on Chelsea and co. Look how quickly we snapped up Moreal because of the Gibbs injury. It was the same for our deadline day deals last summer. We know players are out there but Wenger is too indecisive and what call time on a players career quick enough or adapt when we're in bad shape.