Now that brightened my day, mate. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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Now that brightened my day, mate. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And again! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Still, it's good that the fringe players are hungry to get in the team.
http://www.metro.co.uk/2013/03/03/ni...affic-3523620/
Easy everyone, calm down.
Yes we lost, but I'm comforted by the fact that our great manager is still a football genius.
Who else in world football would have had the foresight to play Ramsey. Even more technically brilliant was the decision to sub our only recognisable right back, IMO one of the best players on the pitch for a midfielder and then to play the superbly slow and fantastically inaccurate crosser of a football, Ramsey, at right back.
If that wasn't enough, we saw Wengers inspired genius in playing a, some would say defender by trade, Mertesacker as a all dominating centre forward.
I'm sure Wenger thought the above was so highly geniusesq that AVB either in fits of laughter or sheer dumbfoundness would concede victory.
Special mention to Vermaleen who is a modern day Beckenbauer, without the football ability.
6 Days ago le idiot quoted:
Arsene Wenger says finishing second in the Premier League is not out of Arsenal's reach.
Wenger has recently seen his side beaten by Blackburn in the FA Cup and Bayern Munich in the Champions League.
But he believes they can secure the runners-up spot in the league, despite being nine points behind second-placed Manchester City with 11 games left.
"Man City is not out of reach. It could be a tight fight until the end," said the Arsenal manager.:haha::haha::haha::haha:
Was he watching a different match? Spuds were comfortable bar few minutes after we scored. Other than the Ramsey chance, we created f allQuote:
on the derby…
It's frustrating because we put so much effort it and we lost the game when we were on top of the game. If you watch the game again you will see that at the moment we were 2-0 down we should have been 2-0 up. They had a very difficult start, we were on top of the game, and the 2-0 lead of course gave them the confidence to defend well and that's what they did for the rest of the game.
It's very frustrating because we had a great attitude but we come out with no points and as well because we were not efficient in the zones where it matters - at the front and at the back. Also, without being at any moment dominated, the only times Tottenham were dangerous today was on counter-attacks. If you are dominated and they create chance after chance, OK you accept it. But today it was a strange game to lose.
on the goals conceded…
I will have to see it again, we certainly lacked caution on both goals because there was no pressure on the ball and we didn't cover.
on the battle for a top-four place…
It will be a massive challenge, massive. I said before the game we couldn't drop these points today and I maintain that after the game. Especially the way the game went, it is difficult to understand how we can lose games like that.
on learning lessons at the back…
Ideally you don't concede goals at all. It is frustrating because we had the best defensive record in the league away from home until today. When you go into a big game like that, once you're 2-0 down you make it difficult for yourself because you have to come out, open yourself up against a team that is good at counter-attacking.
But after in the final 20 minutes it was stop and go, they would foul and stop us from going. They stayed down a lot. We couldn't get the final flow into the game because it was stop and go always.
on conceding two goals in quick succession…
It happened to us many times this season and only in big games. It's difficult to say why, there's no common thing, in all the games there is a different problem. But after you make it difficult for yourself. I cannot fault the attitude or the effort that the team produced, or the spirit the team has shown, but you give yourself a mountain to climb every time in a game of that magnitude.
on whether he believes Arsenal can finish in the top four…
I still think it is possible and we will fight for it, that is for sure.
He is an idiot if he can't understand how we lost such a game. What's so different about today and other losses? We never get domainated by the opposition and until he abhors the sight of poor defending he'll remain confused and baffled. What's wrong with the guy? Why can't he see that defensive discipline is needed? After the game he told a reporter that we had the best home defensive record prior to this game. Is that all he looks at? Total bafoon!
Riot Police barging through during the interview at 1:20 !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZY--GfOJW8
Poor guy, this shit team doesn't deserve the support of gooners who travel and pay hard earned money to watch shit players who drive around in their sports cars acting like they are something big, when they're fucking shit.
Listening to him is painful these days. It wouldn't be so bad if all this was a smokescreen but it's clear he genuinely believes what he's saying, and that he's struggling to understand how we lost the match.
can't you see that he is giving his all right now? and that's the problem - it just isn't enough anymore. we weren't actually terrible today as the players seemed motivated but the set up of the team and of course the traditional shabby defending undermined everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
wenger can throw as much money as he wants at things but he no longer has that 'edge' to do something more innovative than a top four finish.
This. He's giving 110%. And that's what is sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Stinky pigs will be dealt with come the revolution. Until then everyone has to put up with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Of course there won't be a revolution so I guess the smell will linger.
Yeah but his "all" involves subbing Jenks and playing Ramsey at RB. Ludicrous. This isn't a question of him being tactically outmanoeuvred it's a problem of him being locked in some fantasy world where batshit decisions make complete sense and all normality is crazy - like defending properly or paying attention to who we are playing each week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Dig any fan out of the stands and he'd have picked a better starting eleven and made better subs today. I honestly can't think of why he does the things he does.
Maybe there's a serious bug in his team selection and management software that hasn't been fixed for eight years because it was created by Microsoft and Arsenal are too tight to pay the upgrade fee. Maybe his great moments came when the software was functional and now he's fucked. Maybe that's what he always makes the subs on 67 minutes, because the program takes 66 minutes to load. Maybe that's why Ramsey always plays, because the delete key doesn't work.
absolute tosh
this was a huge win and the celebrations at the end showed it. still a way to go but they've got one over us at a crucial stage in the season and while they are progressing, we are regressing.
podolski came on way too late.
why put ramsey as right back? jenks was doing fine.
giroud was dog.
walcott missing.
to put it bluntly, it was evident how much we missed a van persie up there. someone to create a bit of magic like he did last year. we've replaced him with a mechanic, slow striker who takes an age just to turn when he has the ball.
wenger huffing and puffing on the touchline as usual. they're your players so do something with them.
in the words of graham taylor, you got us in this fucking mess, so get us out of it.
the only bright spark was the fact i saw bale 2-1 coming all day long so stuck a tenner on it @ 40/1
thank you wenger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1XssCiViTc
He got the match-worn JW shirt , JW was invisible today though , can't always rely on him can we ?
I am not Ramseys greatest fan IHTA but i thought he tried a damm sight harder than some but he has beccome a product of the system, the Wumger way, playing people out of podition because we cant be bothered to bring in a player of quality to play there in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Thought Ramsey was the best of our midfield today. That's more down to the others being dog toilet than Ramsey being any good though.
Our midfield is a problem. All this tippy tappy shit is pointless. We need creative players who will look for a killer pass. Might not succeed all the team but at least try. That is what Arshavin does and he needs to be played much more.
Sneijder would have been perfect
My only salvation from the game is the bunch of tits the scum fans make themselves look, now that they think they are something. . .when you consider the amount of times they have changed things around, the amount of money they have spent on players and new managers you would have thought that this day should have happened long ago. Yet still they can only just about get past us and we thumped them at home.
However. . .saying that it is us that has the egg left on our faces, some time down the line we may be able to argue that have the perfect business plan but we lack ambition and are stuck in an ever failing way of playing the game. Yesterday wasnt the worst we have played but as some have mentioned we just do not have the quality across the board. Until we address our problem areas and each unit needs at least one quality addition then maybe we do need to be put in our place. But one thing is for sure, it isnt the fans that need to be told. . .
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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
He does try but he's not a player that can link the play, it all breaks down or slows down around him. He's negative on the ball, too conservative. When we inject a bit of pace as soon as the ball goes to him the impetus drains out of the play (same with Diaby). And he's woeful on the wing and even worse at right back, but that's not his fault it's all down to Wenger's inexplicable selections and formations. Ramsey's a decent enough 89th minute sub when we are winning, at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
As for Giroud and Walcott - they are classic mid table players. Not awful but certainly nothing special and absolutely out of their depth against savvy opposition. Both were pocketed today, although Dawson had to force Giroud into his pocket whereas Theo volunteered and jumped in by himself.
Mertesacker and Vermaelen - LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Utter shite. You have to laugh when you see them attempting to defend. It's pathetic.
Jeez, the stupid spud ****s reckon they are the kings of North London after actually winning one game against us. They may even finish above us for the first time since 1995, almost 2 decades ago FFS. Some kings, they get to sit on the throne for 1 year out of 20. Sound more like wannabes to me. They have slipped out of our shadow for a split second, they'll be safely back there next year once we have sold Jack and bought Titus Bramble.
Yeah, that's why we didn't lose 2-1 there last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Oh.
You could never rely on him because hes not close to being a top player yet, and may never be. Ive not seen anything in his game to suggest hes got the vision/passing/brain to be a top playmaker. And hes got one league goal this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Half the player his senior was at the same age (fabregas). But im supposed to rejoice because "at least weve got wilshere" :cheer:
Its been a systematic reduction of quality across the whole pitch with no exception and thats from the 08 team nevermind 04.
And remember when people said good riddance to gallas because nobody could possibly be worse? Well, weve found two in vermalean and mert :pal:
RE: Wilshere, I agree he's not as good as people think he is at the moment, he worked hard but he was ineffective yesterday and his tendency to overrun the ball and lose it is an issue at the moment (it happens a lot). Sure he's one of our best players but he lacks that ability that top players seem to have to almost never give the ball away.
He has talent no doubt but he's a long way from being the superstar that it's claimed he is, he's got a lot to learn and from what I can see noone to learn from.
I must say, Spurs got little bit one over us with Vertonghen. He's much better than Vermaelen.
The hardest thing to take about this, and the ****s crowing down the road, is that we've done this to ourselves.
Sort it the fuck out Arsenal. For fucks sake.
Let them crow all they like. We've had 2 decades of putting them in the shade, along with a stack load of trophies. What do they have to show in that time?Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
They've been close in the past and sooner or later things were going their way but fuck it, whatever happens this season they're still lightyears away from scaling the heights we did.
we could of had him - if we had wanted to play him in defence rather than as a DM, a position he did not want to play. good thing we had diaby he can also play there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
more worried about us than tottenham scaling the dizzy heights of third place in the league. i'd still take 0 in 8 over 2 in 20 years, or no title in 9 than 52 years.
the best they can achieve is champs league football for a few seasons but they'll never be anything moret than a mid-tier club who can occasionally poke their head out the shit hole.
at the beginning of the season when we were shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
letters fucks up again.
oh.
Did we have RVP at the beginning of the season?Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
:pal:
Yeah, genuinely couldn't give a shit about the spuds. Jumping from 5th to 4th best team in country is hardly a major achievement.
Of far greater concern is the huge (and growing) gulf between us and the top.
Can't get my head round AW anymore. I do think he still cares, but then makes such ridiculous decisions it makes you wonder what is going on. Change has been long over due now, and its sad to see a once great managers reign end so bitterly.
Vertonghen was brilliant, defended very well and also got forward well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
what are you on about now? we didnt have rvp at the beginning of last season? :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
quick to point the finger at cripps and zimm for wumming but the real wummers here are the mods.
The sad thing is he chose them over us because we couldn't guarantee him first team football!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He's miles better than any CB we have.
jenkinson was shyt. You guys are simple as fook, see someone bombing down the flank putting in nothing balls and think thats a sign of quality. On both goals he could have applied pressure to the ball-carrier but I guess he didnt want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
If theres a worse right back in the league ive yet to see him.
they got one over us in vertonghen and also lloris.
one of the crucial differences was the goalkeeper yesterday. lloris was assured in everything he done, summed up in the way he came out to dominate that corner in the 95th minute by getting a strong hand to it. chesney would never have done that or if he did, it would have been an awful attempt and they probably would have scored from it.
its the difference between winning and losing. having a strong, experienced goalkeeper reassures the backline. the way lloris scooped up jenkinsons cross in the 2nd half. chesney would have palmed it straight into the oppositions feet. thats the difference between winning and losing.
after just watching motd highlights, fuck me our backline is embarrassing. are we still going to pretend like bould has a say in the coaching? because an experienced leader like bould would not be telling the backline to act like a circus on the weekend.
made worse by the spurs part of the highlights, who look organised and solid. avb clearly working the fine details of their defence.
a rookie manager out doing wenger at the things wenger used to be dominant at. just leave.
We were off in so many areas. The defence is a complete shambles and there is no organisation or communication between them. Vermaelen has to stripped of the armband and dropped. His form has been bad all season and he’s a terrible captain. The midfield wasn’t as disjointed as I’ve seen in the past but Jack was having a bad game. He can’t play further upfield if he’s going to dwindle on the ball and miss playing people in.
I thought Theo had a bad game. He needs to learn to adapt and play between the lines if he’s not getting the service but the MOTD highlights showed the amount of times Jack missed playing him through. We need Rosicky playing alongside him because still has a way to go before he can be our main playmaker. He keeps things ticking but we’re really missing the killer through balls and we really need passes on the plate if we’re playing doughnuts like Giroud and Theo.
Giroud has no quality and Pod needs to get a game upfront. He couldn’t win anything in the air, couldn’t trap the ball or lay it off right….a terrible performance from him. Ramsey was playing okay until Wenger decided to play him as rightback. Arteta shouldn’t be our DM. Way to slow to track runners and a faster, stronger, more aware DM would have helped us a great deal yesterday. He just can’t cover the ground.
It’s going to be a real struggle to get anything right if we can’t fix these problem. I’m not worried about attack as much because a few tweaks will sort that. In fact, who knows what would have happened if we kept a clean sheet but we defence haven’t had a solid and organised run of games in months. They have been so rubbish and it’s a repeat of previous seasons. Why can’t Wenger fix it?
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
on top of his pre-game boast of how good we are statistically away from home, that is the reason why. he'll never get the problems in defence. never.Quote:
It is difficult to understand how you lose a game like that.