Most didn't want him gone. I did. Not because of what he did on the pitch, because of what he did off it. But the point is we all have lessons to learn, me, you, the rest. Some don't want to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
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Most didn't want him gone. I did. Not because of what he did on the pitch, because of what he did off it. But the point is we all have lessons to learn, me, you, the rest. Some don't want to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
It's cancer that kills, not the smoking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
The funny thing is, Sagna's probably off in the summer. So some posters here will literally hate every single player at the club.
Wilshere will one day show himself as even better than Ramsey.
Problem is smoking causes cancer :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Personally I doubt it, I always saw the potential in Ramsey even before the injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
I just don't get Wilshere, there's so little end product with him and defensively he's a liability, what I also don't like is almost everything he does seems to involve going through the middle of the defence, I guess that's the consequence of growing up through the youth scheme with Wenger in charge.
He's basically been massively hyped because he's English, might be a decent footballer but that's it IMO, when he had his spell at Bolton I was pretty underwhelmed personally.
Ramsey's certainly demonstrated that we need to give Wilshere time. Almost a carbon copy in terms of injuries blighting his development. I think Wilshere isn't really doing enough to justify being first choice MF - and I would dearly love to see Ox or Santi tried alongside the Flam in CM, but I ain't writing him off yet.
Wilshere is inconsistent at the moment and shouldn’t be an automatic first team starter. He has loads of potential but which young first teamer doesn’t? Over the last 10 years we’ve seen plenty of young team players come and go and we don’t know what’s on the cards for his career. He’s still got a long way to go, he’s struggling and I still say it was a mistake to reward him with that massive contract. We should be keeping our young players hungry and dish out the big contracts when they start producing consistently.
If he sorts out his decision making in front of goal, starts to learn how to use his right foot, learns when and when not to dribble, sorts out his positional awareness, he’ll be a good little player. He’s still very raw.
He's gone backwards during his injury. Now he needs to relearn some things, not necessarily his technical skills but his pitchcraft. Understandable that he feels the need to make up for lost time, but his first instinct these days is to take a few touches.
Watch back his performance against Barca (the one everybody raves about) and it's clear it's a much more measured and mature performance. And it was notable because of who it was against. Too many players flatter to deceive, look like world-beaters against mediocre opposition and then flop against quality. Jack played defensive midfield against Barcelona, widely regarded as one of the best attacking midfields in the world at that time. And he wasn't out of place.
It's that kind of performance that still has people believing. Ramsey is a case in point. Prior to his renaissance he was losing the ball more than any other player in the team. Now he's a f*cking beast.
Jack can be a frustrating player to watch right now.
He needs to refocus and tweak his game, but he is well capable of it.
Out for 6 weeks.
:rolleyes:
So injury prone. It's a real shame.
He was a bit shit recently.
Ramsey is coming back anyway
:coffee:
Yeah he's been pretty poor all season, I do feel that injuries are playing a massive part in that though. I still believe we have a gem of a player in Jack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Looking forward to the amazing Arteta/Flamini midfield :bow:
Sick note. This many injuries at this stage of his career cannot be a good thing.
Wheelchair. :lol:
Bye.
this is why Wenger got in Kallstrom,Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
Arteta/Kallstrom :bow:
You know Kallstrom is probably better than Wheelchair anyway.
:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Probably true! ;)
Arteta/Kallstrom partnership would give the Cesc/Song partnership a run for it's money in terms of slowness!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-conten...FP-512x345.jpg
I think this pretty much confirms the end of our title bid. Yes mathematically it's still possible but we're all old and experienced enough to know that you don't win the title with 3 key players out, especially when other teams have ridiculous depth.
When we look back at this season in years to come it will be the January window which once again led to our downfall. So pissed off.
Wilshere is shit, massively over-ratedQuote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Idiot needs to haul his ass off when injured. He decided to play on again.
Ah well, no great loss on the pitch for us and from his point of view it gives him enough time to add to his already extensive tattoo collection I guess and catch up with his smoking buddies.
Not in the world of tattoo's, they see him as one of the up and coming stars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
This is a blessing in disguise for us. This probably means more game time for Santi, Ox and Rosicky down the middle! And do not forget, we have Kallstrom who can play there as well!
Things are so black and white on here.
Granted he's not played well and has been in bad form for a lot of this season but it's way too early to write him off or call him shit. As we all know Ramsey looked just as terrible at times last season.
Part of the problem seems to be that he's trying too much at times (too many mazy runs that go nowhere) and like Ozil, he's suffering from an inherent lack of runners in the team. His passing is actually nearly on par with Ozil's in terms of quality. I'm confident he'll come good.
There's a few problems with his game IMO:
1) Sloppy passing - the amount of times he gives simple balls away is shocking for a player supposedly so talented, I've never seen a player people rate this highly give the ball away so much
2) Poor tracking back, tackling and getting caught on the ball - there's no discipline in his game, he offers poor cover and gets beaten way too easily and when he does tackle it's not generally very good
3) Try to play everything through the centre of the defence - there's no variety to his game, he looks for passes through the centre and makes runs at the centre of the defence, it's often pointless as it's very hard to get through those areas
4) Very little end product - Doesn't score enough goals or create enough for a player who is suppose to be creative
I think he's gone backwards and watching him play is often torture because of his careless passing, poor cover and poor tackling, it cost us goals which isn't good.
From a personal view point, I'm kinda glad I won't have to watch him putting in poor performances on a regular basis for a while.
Dont try to be positive in here!!1 :fury:
Mark Saggers on talksport just said England need to cut and run regarding Wilshere. We need to do the same.
£15m would be a good amount for him, if we can get it.
15m is a bit optimistic, players who go for that much usually have at least one trait to their game they excel at.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
This is enough. We need to tell the that shit mob run by Hodgson they can fuck off with their bullshit friendlies. International football is a joke that somehow has a free license to prey on professional football clubs. The whole International scene exists purely to keep a handful of child molesters in the lap of luxury. If they want to top quality sportsmen to turn up to their pointless events then they should pay, just like the fans have to pay to see players turn out for their clubs. Fucking leeches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sterling Archer
In other news that should delight the handful of wankers here who are constantly doing down the club, the Daily Myra Hindley has managed to heap more shit on Ozil in their ongoing campaign to kill his career. This on top of the brilliant news that Wilshere is injured - what a day for the assholes. Now if only we can lose to Everton :pray:
Should we have a sweepstake on how long he lasts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
I'm going with 27 minutes.
edit: Scratch that. Injured in pre match warmup.
It's an impact injury so nothing to worry about. He'll a be back but really needs to think about his playing style.
There's a World Cup coming, how is an International manager suppose to build a team and pick his squad if he can't see them perform together? I don't like friendlies however at this time so close to the World Cup it's understandable, it is after all the most prestigious trophy in the game of football. As for the paying, it should be an honour to play for you country at the highest level and has always been part and parcel of football, players don't have to go if they don't want to but clearly they do, clubs don't get paid for their players in any other sport either when picked for their International teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It's not their fault Wilshere gets injured if someone blows on him.
Dont get me wrong i'm well aware hes a nothing player, but i'm hoping the Engerland hype hasnt totally worn off yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We could stroll into the Baltic states blindfolded and walk out with a player of equal ability and style for about £4m
That's a bit harsh Munch boy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Even if he is a bit off the pace at the moment, we really cannot afford another fucking injury! We are cursed! How ironic if Klit-storm came in and turned our season around! LOL!
It might not be their "fault" but it's their responsibility. They should have to pay compensation then this stupid shit would clear up overnight. Anyway, it makes no odds if the hapless cunt Hodgson gets zero or a hundred friendlies, he's got fuck all chance of even getting out of the group let alone winning it. Complete waste of our time, effort and money and somebody should have to carry the can for that. In any other industry you pay if you fuck something up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
*cough*CEOs of certain banks*cough*Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I had assumed somebody had killed all those bastards by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Injury Time