I think the point is that we didn't get to find out. If you won't chance your arm when 12 yards from goal, then there isn't going to be many other opportunities to do so.
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I think the point is that we didn't get to find out. If you won't chance your arm when 12 yards from goal, then there isn't going to be many other opportunities to do so.
Q: What did you learn about your squad tonight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
AW: That we have the needed quality and that when it will matter in the championship we will be there
Really :unsure:
Should have asked him what he thinks of the fact he's never beaten a Mourinho team :coffee:
Chance didn't look that easy to me, he has no idea if there's someone behind him and it would actually be quite a difficult chance to execute, don't really see a whole lot wrong. He might have tried it but maybe he just didn't feel he could score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
You can point to the rest of the team that barely created a chance all night and the defending at times as well as poor play, we were disappointing in the end.
True but why didn't Ramsey smack it when he had a clear site on goal. The ball was fizzed in to Bendy, under his feet and i doubt he has a deft enough touch to set himself up for a shot. Would have been a brilliant goals from Ramsey if he'd have hit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I don't know, he probably should have hit. All I know is Bendtner passed up the opportunity immediately to try and score with no defenders behind him and he's supposed to be the striker; that was Chamakh level play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
First few minutes were reminiscent of the Dortmund game, we sat in our own half waiting for them to attack. Chelsea know how to play against us and were always conformtable, waiting for us to make the inevitable mistake and so we did and got punished.
I honestly dont know how a player like Jenkinson (league 2) can play for Arsenal, out of his depth in every single department. yet again in a big game we fail to hold our nerve and make the first error. Chelsea had their second string and some rookies in there at FB but they stayed solid and compact and found it really easy to defend against us. We on the other hand kept trying tio thread it through tight spaces in a very crowded midfielder and had a front man who looked so disinterested and lazy it was almost deliberate.
if you look at the big games over the last few years, nothing has changed and we wlays get picked off. last season home and away against Chelsea, man u away, City home etc. We might find it slightly easier against Liverpool as they wont do the containing job on us but with their front men in fine form it could be another game to forget.
That's a good point. Bendtner being here wasn't judged to be too bad because at least he was a better option than Chamakh. But this season he's turned into Chamakh and has offered nothing more than what the Moroccan would have. That's worrying.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
To the guys who defends bendtner in that situation, have you ever played football yourself? Its not like its rocket science or you have to be RVP to be able to get a shot out of that, the way the ball came from Rosicky he could easily have let it bounced of his left heel/foot, turned and shot in a split second. He just took a lazy decision like he did the rest of the game.
Look at the pace of the pass. It's dead centre under Bendy's feet. The touch would have had to be immense to kill the pace and inch perfect to set up a shot with his right foot. By the time he'd have controlled it the opportunity would have been gone. Wasn't a great game from Bendy but I wouldn't use that moment to illustrate it. That wasn't a coward like or sloppy moment. Ramsey was calling for the pass before it reached Bendy because he saw the shot was on. Just a case of us overplaying if anything. But we need a world class striker! Giroud wouldn't have been able to deal with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Yes, I've played and know it's difficult to control a ball when fizzed in with great pace. Also, this is Bendy we're talking about. His touch isn't fantastic and he's not that agile and quick. He had his back to goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
It was a clear cut chance. To not even attempt a shot is utter cowardice. Giroud would have dispatched it with ease. End of story.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
Bulls. He's not right footed for starters and wouldn't have gone for the shot. If he'd have T'd up Ramsey and we'd scored, it would have been a great assist.
There are better examples of why Bendy is dreadful. I wouldn't hold that clip up as the epitome. He didn't shoot first time but why didn't Ramsey?
The main thing that struck me was the fact I could freely voice my displeasure and not be frowned upon in the stadium.
How the Emirates has changed.
If you said anything negative a few years back you'd have 5 people telling you to shut up. Hence why many turned to away days. But now it's got to the point where most have had enough and pretty much agree to voicing concerns, and have little patience when they see bad performances.
Sad indictment of where we are as a club and the pressure that Wenger faces. If it turns into another disappointing season then I fear the worst.
ANY other team at home would have tested Chelsea more and made them them earn their victory. we were so shit.
We're talking about a guy that makes millions playing football, he can actually play, despite us not liking him. What makes him look bad is that he's playing versus even better footballers (and his personality/attitude in Bendtners case), but in that situation there was no "better" player to take the chance away from him, so there's no excuse for him to not get a shot off, except for him being a lazy cunt that doesnt give a shit about football anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Any striker should instictivley think about scoring in that position.
The guy is awful. He doesn't want to be here, the fans don't want him and the fact we've tried to sell him for 3 years suggests Wenger doesn't fancy him either.
Just go away you fucking ****.
I think we've seen how important it is to strengthen the team properly. We had a reported £70m 'warchest' in the summer. Yes we spent £40m or so on Ozil, but we actually brought in around £11m offloading Gervinho/Chamakh/Mannone so the net spend in the summer was of £30m, leaving £40m or so left.
We've seen how influential Flamini has been in our side, yet he's the only true CDM in our team. We should have bought an actual winger, a quality CDM, and a striker.
The transfer dealings in the summer were a shambles, the Ozil signing won't hide that, and its down to Wenger and the board really.
That being said, we do have Theo/Ox/Podolski to come back, so hopefully we won't have to see the likes of Ryo/Bendtner anytime soon. Still have a chance of having a good season, but we need to hope injuries don't play a part till January.
Explain to me why Ramsey didn't shoot?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
He's a guy with zero confidence. At least last time he was here he thought he was the best striker in the world so would shoot. Now he's doing a Chamakh and going the opposite direction when he has the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
I don't think you can blame Ramsey for not shooting it first time, there were more Chelsea players around him than Bendtner
:gp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He was closed down very quickly, tried to make space and his shot was blocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Whereas with Bendtner, it was just him and Schwarzer, enough space to get a shot away if he tried to.Quote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...ernotshoot.gif
Given that Ramsey was about the only one who was trying to shoot, and had quite a few good efforts, I don't think you can hold that one against him....if I was him, I would have been suprised to a have received the ball back from a striker who was dead centre, unmarked and in prime position.
And you don't think Bendy would have been closed down even quicker after controlling the ball?Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
I would assume he also possibly thought there was a defender near him, since you don't see him looking before he gets the ball.
Looking at it again, Ramsey is after the first ball from Rosicky.
Tbh, Rosicky is at fault here for playing the wrong ball :lol:
He trys to play in Bender first. FAIL.
Ramsey calls for it, and he ignores him FAIL
Then opts to put the ball right on Bender, instead of in front of him. FAIL
The only player I can see who could close him down in enough time was Bertrand (I think, number 34)Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
That said, Bender isn't looking for the chance, else he'd be truned toward goal slightly....which presumably Giroud would have been.
Looking at this, it's typical Wenger ball isn't it, little intricate passing moves that don't always lead to us shooting when we should.
He was calling for Rosicky to pass him, who passes to Bendtner instead, so i would guess first of all he was surprised to get it back, seeing the position Bendtner was in, but there was a defender (+ Bendtner) infront of him when he gets it, so he tries to get in a better shooting position, but the Chelsea players swarmed him to quickly, so he couldnt get a shot off. If he had shot straight away, he would have had to shoot in between the chelsea player and Bendtner, which would have gotten straight into Schwarzers hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Giroud would have buried it. Without doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Didnt even look at the goal once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
It was a caricature moment.
In 20 years when somebody makes a comedy sketch of the overplaying and style over substance of the late Wenger years they could not perform a more exaggerated action than that. Farcical.
:sarcy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Behave.
Anybody on this forum could get a shot on target from there.
Oh please. If was a decent enough ball and a good striker should be able to that dead & make space for a shot. Even if he scuffed it he shouldve given the goalie something to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
They asked him before the game, his reply? Not concerned because the managers dont play on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Translation? Its not my fault guv, its those fookers.
If you can analyse why Ramsey didn't shoot, why can't you do the same for Bendy? Circumstances on the pitch. I don't know why we go into the physiological analysis mode and assume he doesn't want to be here based on that one incident. Surely he knows his ticket out of here is to score, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
But overall we need better strikers. It's scandalous that we're depending on Bendy and brought on Park of all people.
I think that's the point. I wonder if Podolski would have been preferred through the middle? Or Theo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Diddums, poor Bendy had no idea who was behind him. Did you want Billy from Islington in row 2 to give him detailed reconnaissance or something? Its his JOB to LOOK at what the FOOK is happening. Ive seen 12 year old players grasp the concept of looking at the surroundings before the ball gets to him. What a ridiculous defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim