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No one was rating Sturridge at City and Chelsea . Even when he joined Liverpool , he was still missing sitters . But look what kind of striker he has developed . Wellbeck is young and will have a point to prove especially against United .
We create so many chances with no one in the box to put them away . At least we got someone who will be a constant threat . His finishing will improve with time .
I suppose there's still a foul taste and stench since the last player we brought in from Utd. If, if, if, if, Welbeck pushes on like Sturridge then of course we can't complain and this is a good deal. If he keeps on playing like he did for Utd then we've ended up with Gervinho again. I want to see Ox and Walcott take the league by storm this year, then I'll have some confidence Wenger can still bring the best out of these types of players. At least it's obvious who we drop to play him and at least we will now play 11 vs 11 instead of 10 vs 12. I don't like the idea of Utd players at the club, not at all. But he turned down the spuds so I guess he's on the right road. I wouldn't say I'm warming to it but my enthusiasm has risen a few degrees from -273CQuote:
Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
Wages are £115kpw according to Telegraph. Very surprising Podolski wasn't shipped out to accommodate.
Welbz. :bow:
What a man.
The reaction makes a change from the cringeworthy fanfare surrounding the Ozil and Sanchez signings, who have both been shyt so far.
Welbeck will probably out-perform both.
If Giroud is fit by Jan window I could see Pod going then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Must admit I'm excited by the prospect of such an unpredictable signing and frankly it wouldn't have taken much to improve on Sanogo anyway. Been a long time since we had an England striker as well, we're racking up quite the GHEL contingent.
I know he wasn't the first, second or even 98th name on our wish list, but he's ours now and like any new signing he comes with a clean slate. I only care about what he does in an Arsenal shirt and not what he's previously done at United.
We have our pacey striker and despite not having the goal scoring pedigree we desire he has plenty of time on his side to improve. United fans rated him so that should tell you we haven't at least signed a complete dud.
Hopefully in a year or 2 we're all dragging up the :haha: and Welshit comments we've all made, because that would mean he's doing quite well.
Come on Welbz and come on Arsenal.
Never. Didn't you say we didn't want to pay Remy £80kpw and that he was greedy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I would much rather we didn't sign anyone than sign Wellbeck. A useless addition to à flailing squad.
To some degree, I empathised with Wenger after his post-match interview against Besiktas. If he was telling the truth that we had to try and cope with Podolski. Walcott, Sanogo and Campbell, then so be it. They needed a chance to play and they'd finally got it. For reasons unbeknown to me, Wenger decides to pick the worst one of the four to play against Leicester, leading to panic stations among the fans and the signing of a non goal-scoring striker by the board to placate the fans. Terrible.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...orward-welbeck
So it's true :faint:
On the plus side though, as opposed to the Sanchez and Ozil signings where we expected fireworks. With Welbeck we just hope he can kick a ball straight and a control ball. So it is a pretty low base to begin. It also means we can stop the competition winner playing up front experiment.
Sanchez, Walcott, Welbeck and the Ox adds pace with Ozil just behind with the paces and Ramsey popping in the box with this lung bursting runs.
Although Wenger has obviously given up the idea of being defensive... did it for acouple of seasons and now he has got bored. Debuchy, Mert, Kos, Chambers, Gibbs and Monreal with any first team experience. Should really recall Jenks.
van Nistelrooy is a shit defender.
They are still in mourning over at Redcafe. :rose:
http://www.redcafe.net/threads/danny...player.395928/
All this nonsense about Wellbeck and Sturridge is precisely that, at Bolton he showed he could score goals, Wellbeck has just shown he can miss chances.
Awful signing and pretty much everyone on here would have said the same before we somehow ended up with him, Man U must be laughing behind our backs at this deal, they sign a top class forward for peanuts whilst we give them an extra 10 million on top for a guy who can't score for toffee and who they'd have had trouble getting rid of for 5 million never mind 16.
We look like mugs right now sadly, Hernandez would have been a much better bet, we've signed the new Emile Heskey a player who gets picked for England based on some fantasy idea that he's actually any good.
He's not my first choice and I am not exactly excited about this signing but he is here now so I wish him well.
I did actually quite like the look of him when he first broke on the scene but his development has stalled IMO.
I think the potential is there but I don't think he will develop into anything more than a decent PL player who will bag 15 goals a season max.
I think it's crucial he is played through the middle as he is no use to us on the wings.
I would say he is at Giroud level, he's not really an upgrade, he just offers something different.
He's not one to get excited about but he's better than Sanogo, surely?
The fact Utd fans are upset about it gives me some hope, at least.
Thats all that needs to be said. Now button it know-nothings.Quote:
shaggy (Redcafe)
I'd actually take the Falcao deal falling through if it meant Welbeck stayed.
I'm in mourning for the 16million we've pissed down the drainQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Yep, on Podolski and another 42 on Ozil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Welbeck is a bargain compared to those two.
I walk into the office and everyone's like
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People that don't know what they're talking about :haha:
It's not a terrible signing, it just doesn't shout "title contenders" at you. :shrug:
well thats not true. They might have paid a small loan fee, however they are paying him in wages over a million a month. Thats hardly peanuts. And when you think of the wages they pay rooney, judas and Mata, they are paying close to a million pounds per week for four players, we cannot and should not do that. And he isn't the player they need, scoring goals wasn't their problem last year, it was conceding them. The fact they haven't signed a defender is utterly stupid although not complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
However, you might be right with Welbeck but he's better then Sanogo. Don't get me wrong, I wish we had done better this window with a defender and midfielder, but as someone said, if we signed welbeck first and sanchez last night we would all be over the moon. Will Welbeck win us the title? I doubt it, but Falcao won't win united the title either, and i still don't think he will get them top four. They haven't got a defence or a decent midfield
I would have been more impressed if he kicked him in the ballsQuote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
There's no doubting Falcoa is top class, Man U clearly think they can afford it, it's not about them though, it's more about us wasting money on a guy who isn't going to really do a lot to improve us, the guy can't score goals how many more forwards who can't put the ball in the net do we need. Now we've signed him that's the end of our striker search meaning we're stuck with this strikeforce for years, which IMO is really not good news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
Yes we've signed players this summer but other than Sanchez I wouldn't call any top class or indeed think that any would have been on the fans list of desirable signings.
I find it disappointing that we settle for mediocre players time and time again when what we should be looking for is top class ones that will make a big difference to our team.
Man U have also signed Daley Blind btw and he was brilliant in the World Cup.
Well i suppose the jury is still out on Debuchy, however he has started brilliantly for us, we all had fears about replacing Sagna and so far, they seem to have disappeared. We didn't just replace him with some french player, we replaced him with an international first team player. Jury is out on whether he is a top class player but for the moment, I'd say we have replaced Sagna with someone just as good if not slightly better. Zabletta and Lahm are the two best right backs IMO, we weren't going to get them so Debuchy was the next on the list. That is a very good signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Chambers, well obviously he isn't top class, at least not yet, but he has impressed so far and looks to offer good cover for third choice CB. Same goes with Ospina, as keeper. Good back up, both will push those in front on. When you remember that we have in our squad, Ozil, Ramsey, Theo, Koscienly, Mertesacker, Cazorla, those are top class players. We have Szcesney who was the joint best keeper last season as well. Podolski, Rosicky, Arteta all add experience too. I'm annoyed we didn't sign another midfielder, and defender but I still think this window has been good and lets hope Welbeck turns out to be good, time will tell on that one. We asked Arsene to change and spend money, he's spent the most he ever has in one window, thats a good sign but we still needed more. However, we still have a good squad. Its injuries that will stop us really, they always do
Who's this Falcoa bloke?
Cheer up Herbie, it could have been worse, if we didn't already have him we could have signed Sonogo.
I'm actually excited by this move, and thinking about our potential front 3, with him, Theo, and Alexis
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Remy wanted £5mill a year, about £100K - again of course, according to the media. A lot for a player who has yet to do anything significant. The fact he's gone to sit on the chav bench says a lot about his priorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Welbeck didn't want a loan deal, wants a starting position, CL footie and £115K - according to the media. Sounds ambitious. Then again, Theo demanded a starting position and £100K and many, including myself, viewed that as greedy considering (like Welbeck) he hasn't hit the anticipated heights yet. All very difficult to judge these silly wages for players that have paper thin differences between them.
The message being Arsenal fans know nothing but Utd fans know something?Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
Could be true considering you think Ozil and Alexis have been shite.
Most of our fans couldnt see Vermalean, Arshavin and Podoski were incompetent right under their own nose so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Since most have only seen him on MOTD, youre not qualified to have an opinion on Welbeck.
"16m wasted" - how arrogant and thick does somebody need to be to say that? Just stick to wanking over stickerbook players and leave the evaluation of players to management.
And you think the best way to educate us all is to tell us not to have an opinion on a forum? Won't it be even quieter around here if we follow your expert advice?Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
Personally not that happy about our striking options, if we were going to get someone like Wellbeck rather than someone top class, I'd have rather we'd had given Campbell a shot up front, he won't be any worse than Wellbeck who let's face it isn't going to win us anything anyway.
In the end, having two options is better than one. If either flops then maybe the other won't. At least the club is buying players instead of fighting over shares. And the more GHELs we get the more chance of the refs cheating for us, or at least there's a chance they might stop cheating against us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
And it keeps Sanogo one step further from a starting position. Unless Wenger decides to play Welbeck wide and leave Sanogo in the middle. I'll piss myself laughing if that happens and then call an ambulance for Arsene.
That's all true, the only thing that bothers me is that now our search for a striker is over, so there's no chance of seeing someone decent up front for the foreseeable future.
Let's be honest, if Man U thought Wellbeck was any good they wouldn't have sold him to us as it would have made no sense.
