So even Clichy who's been at the club since he was 18, seven years, raised by Wenger, had his name sung pretty much every match, fucks off to a Premier League rival??!!
What a cunt.
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So even Clichy who's been at the club since he was 18, seven years, raised by Wenger, had his name sung pretty much every match, fucks off to a Premier League rival??!!
What a cunt.
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True that. I'd been trying all season to put my finger on why I don't warm to any of the Arsenal players in the squad and I think that's it. Scrape away all the badge thumping and media spin, they're just a bunch of self-serving fuckwits who don't give two-shits about the club or the fans.
Lap of appreciation? Jog on, sunshine. Don't bother us next year unless you mean it as we've got homes to go to.
Of course they don't care, they come to this club because they get the sort of game time and exposure they wouldn't find anywhere else at this level at their age, it's merely a stepping stone for them. Ashley Cole was spot on when he identified the foreign influx of kids and said they're basically chumps.
Surely them being in the last year of their contracts is the main reason the prices are relatively low. Also, these deals are far from confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
What about the spirit and togetherness though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
lolz.
It's amusing how people on here spend all summer whining about how shit our players are, calling them all the names under the sun, and then turn around and moan about disloyalty when they think about pissing off.
I'm not moaning about it, I was just stating the obvious. They don't care and tbh why should they, they're looking after themselves.
You're not, no. Look at the other posts though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Its the GW way :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
True in the case of Nasri. The market value of a player is not based on what someone payed for someone else a year ago. It is what the market is prepared to pay now which is influenced by the economics of the clubs, the potential new 'fair play' rules, the length of contract remaining, how much the buying teams need exactly that kind of player to complete their kind of setup, etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
It might well be that Cesc has a maximum price of 35M. We might want more but if no bugger will pay it then saying he is worth 50 million is meaningless. For us, it is a question of whether 35, 40 or whatever will enable us to sort it out once and for all, and to have enough money to buy who we want. I presume some of the clubs with players Wenger wants are holding for what they can get - they want to get an idea of how much we have in the pot and how much we will get for Cesc / Nasri so they can work out at what price they should settle.
Like I keep saying, the transfer window shit just fucks things up. Without a window deadline, people would just deal with one player here and there as needed and this complex crap would go away.
Nah, from my perspective, I generally moan about players when I don't feel they were playing 100%. You can have crap players who you learn to love because they try hard and they care about the club (eg Grimandi). I'm moaning more about people like Nasri who has his name chanted every week and is now pretty much swerving his car off the road because £92k is beneath him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Clichy, to be fair, was probably one of the few 100%ers so maybe I take back my comment on him, but there is still a very understandable frustration that beneath the surface ALL of these guys are mercenaries on the take. No connection to the fans and no feel for the club. All of them steeling themselves for the next big payday.
The conduct at the N. London derbies - hugging and making kissy-faces at our biggest rivals after they've thrown away two goal leads - is all the indication you need of that. As I say, much as I adore Arsenal, it's hard to feel much love for a bunch of players like this.
Do you think Clichy reads Goonersweb then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Clichy has no reason to be disloyal. He's bloody lucky to have been playing at the top level for so long. He didn't get abuse - his name was sung at every game.
Eboue and Bendtner can be disloyal as it's pretty obvious that the fans don't like them.
Clichy is a cunt.
How is he being disloyal exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
We knew he wanted to leave, and weve been touting him round. Weve now opened talks with Citeh, so does that mean the club is disloyal too?
Don't see how whether he reads GW is in any way relevant. Just lolling at the hypocricy of people who spend all season saying how crap our players are and then splutter with rage at how 'disloyal' they are for leaving. If people think they're that bad they'd surely be glad if they leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
I presume you've never changed jobs and never plan to if you get what you feel is a better offer by the way....
I think he's shit and am glad we're selling him.
I get the whole 'better your career' argument. City is a step up with bigger wages - fine.
All I'm saying is if ever there was a case of one of our players owing us something then it's Clichy. We gave him his chance and supported him. Wenger openly stated that he wants to keep him.
Well he obviously doesn't read manc message boards cos they don't want him either!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
Justin Hoyte was on GW for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
Nah, they'd use the good message boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
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That's just asking for an ice cold Maccy 'Bye'.