He's not leaving for City.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
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He's not leaving for City.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
If Welbeck is worth 16million and he's essentially shit (sorry that's the truth, nice lad I'm sure and he tries hard) than how come Wilshere is only worth 25 even though he's made from fibreglass.
Are we getting ripped off?.
25 million? Take the money and run, they'll get about 15 games out of this average joe, perfect example of getting too much too early.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
Given the chance he'd go like a flash, good opportunity for him to get more cash so he can smoke a few more ciggies.
Wilshere is worth about 12 million pounds and that including the English hype tax. Anything over that is a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Media bullshit. In between stuffing their snouts with freebie lunches and hacking out their link bait match reports that bear no resemblance to events they still have 11 hours left from their 12 hour week to pull steaming copy out of their arseholes.
Here's another piece of exquisite journalism from the same source:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/09/alexis...g-sex-5094728/
They long since gave up reporting the news and now they revel in being two rungs down from the paparazzi and on level pegging with child molesters.
Debatable. Different players but both had a lot of hype behind them and showed glimpses of quality but haven't really developed into what was originally expected. What's worse, Jack is more injury prone. It's a good price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Firstly women with abs are about as alluring to me as women who are taller than me (6ft 3)Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
As far as I'm concerned if a woman is taller than me she/he/it wasn't born a woman
"He is immature and average"
Average? How many players could have scored the goal he did against Man City
You have some strange dreams mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
He has been way below his own high standards this season I'll give you that..... but had been quite as bad as atrocious all season I'd doubt they'd be comfortably second. Demichellis has steadied his performances but he's not Franco Baresi or quite so exceptional that he could render Kompany's poor performances an irrelevance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I don't think Hart is the best keeper in the world but he has previously been in the top 5 keepers before and I'd have signed Hart and Kompany years ago given the chance, even if there are a number of keepers better than Hart currently.
Schneiderlin, Dybala & Varane please - then we have a team. Could get these 3 for the price of Pogba.
Oh, maybe a keeper aswell.
I see we're supposed to be talking to Khedira's agent AGAIN :yawn: - did we ever talk to him in the 1st place.
Also, we are interested in the world renown Hakan Calhanoglu, apparently he is a good free-kick taker - wonderful, but we dont play by NFL rules.
Off you pop. :wave:
Though I could see him fitting in well at Liverpool. :sick:
Oh well, he's not worth the kind of money being discussed. Made a good living out of football to be fair to him without ever really delivering anything spectacular, never done anything to live up to the hype and wouldn't be a player we should worry about facing in future.
Would hope we'd replace with someone of superior ability.
He hasn't done much to warrant another pay rise. Good player but IMO Ox is as good if not better, if he's going to play silly buggers then he can sod off.
I can't defend this shit if true. There is no way he'll get a significant pay rise after sitting out for so long with an injury. He has to have some of the dumbest advisors of they think otherwise. He's not in a strong position to negotiate.
It's probably best for both parties of we let him go. There isn't anything more Wenger can teach him.
Totally agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Let's get the max we can, hopefully £20mil add a bit to that and go shopping for another quality addition to the team. Ox and Gnarbbers will fill the role more than adequately
He isn't worth the angst of another prolonged contract negotiation
Get rid.
Piss off :wave:
Harsh on Gary :sulk:Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
How does the Daily Mail know any of this? We know it won't have been leaked by the club and how does Walcott benefit by making this public? This is the scummy media creating a story around the one fact we do know, Walcott's contract is coming to an end. It's a safe bet he wants a pay rise to sign another contract, who couldn't have guessed that? Or at least his agent wants it. The actual amount is revealed as being "north of" what he already earns. That's pretty vague and again pretty obvious, doubt he'd want a figure "south of" the current one. Typical crap from a crap media rag.
I wouldnt ever tell him to piss off.. he is my golden ticket! I mean.. my source of Arsenal game tickets! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Blame Keown for blowing the lid. I'd usually agree with you on this sort of thing, but considering the position he's in at the club, he can't really make a fuss about the contract unless he's prepared to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Lemme guess.
Walcott is a boyhood Liverpool fan?
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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Originally Posted by Letters
:whistle:Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Hope that works ;)
Still a little boy who pretends he's a footballer
We haven't really missed him have we.
If Liverpool want him, and that's the extent of their ambition, then go right ahead Rogers, you lipstick wearing quilted jacketed twatbag.
Drunk LDG :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
But seriously :gp: Fuck him.
Just reading Arseblog and he's done a mini summary on the quotes and stories. The funny thing is, it's Wenger making it known that the process will be difficult which reminds me of the RVP situation where he came out to say he's not sure about offering huge wages to a player passing his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Check it out.
Are those not shots from Wenger? We're not going to keep him from the sounds of things. I think it's unwise for his camp to try and play tough with negotiations if true, but I don't know why Wenger has taken this public. I wouldn't be surprised if someone from the club is leaking stories about Liverpool to edge him closer to the door.Quote:
Nov 2014 – Arsene Wenger says we’re starting to talk to him about a new contract. “We are starting to sit down with him,” he says, but warns, “It is never easy with him.”
March 2015 – The manager sounds sarcastic and not altogether pleased when asked about it, saying, “The first contacts have been established with the embassy. We will see how that progresses politically. He is very quick on the pitch but off the pitch, not always.”
Thursday night (March 19th) – A number of newspapers all run the same story mooting a Walcott move to Liverpool as the mugsmashers grow worried about Raheem Sterling’s future/contract situation. It’s almost as if those papers have been briefed by the same source. Who might that have been?!
Friday March 20th – The London Evening Standard runs a story to say that contract talks are ‘on hold’ until the end of the season with both parties ‘happy’ and ‘relaxed’ by that.
Hmm....are you expecting "The Song" manoeuvre next, followed by keeping Pod as the impact striker....Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I think Theo is definitely off, not getting any minutes, rumours of jack being offloaded also (don't see it happening myself) but ultimately Wenger has f'd up this generation of players we have. I remember when these guys were gonna be the saviour of the national team as well as bringing the club to the summit....Gibbs can't get in the team, wilshere just isn't disciplined (I look at the manager) Walcotts potential not realised, this kids strengths have never been utilised fully and if he is sold to Liverpool it will be a sad day as the expectation was so high and Wenger was suppose to be the perfect manager for him.
May sound crazy to some on here, but I seriously question Wenger’s youth development ability. He’s good with players in their early mid 20s that need to polish their game but when it comes to younger players, the ones that arrive at 16 or come from our academy, we’re still waiting for him to produce the goods. Cesc is the only one and I question that one slightly because Cesc grew at Barca playing with Messi. From what I take from Cesc’s interviews, he’s thankful for the opportunity and faith Wenger had shown in him. Constantly getting games and being called up for the first team even after a bad game. That’s great but I rarely hear players talk about how he’s developed them technically.
Theo is one example. His coaching philosophy of letting the players learn how to naturally adapt to situations without barking instructions just doesn’t sit well with me. I think it’s why players like Theo, Jack and even Ramsey get themselves into extended ruts with their form and repeat the same mistakes over and over without correction. It’s like waiting for the penny to drop for the player and they have that eureka or enlightenment moment where it suddenly clicks for them. It’s all good showing faith in a player but you still have to guide them technically and tactically otherwise they develop bad habits. Walcott’s development has lead him down a fruitless path. No club will want to buy a wide striker. That’s like a custom built specialist position for our team that we no longer need. He’s not tried and tested as striker and hasn’t been developed as a winger. He’s in limbo and it’s best he moves on whilst still young enough to see if something can be salvaged. Fans get on his case here at Arsenal saying he hasn’t developed but whose fault is that? He’s been training under Wenger since he was 16 and doesn’t look or sound like he slacks in his training. He’s not the only that hasn’t developed and probably won’t be the last with Wenger in charge. It’s too young of an age group for Wenger to work with.
Yeah I think Theo is off too, Wenger has been very vocal about these contract negotiations and not in a positive way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newguy
I personally think he will do very well at Liverpool if he goes there, he a "Liverpool" kind of player.
Theo can do one.
was watching the Bundesliga yesterday, saw Bayern beaten at home first time this season. Christoph Kramer.......must get. play him alongside or in rotation with Coq.
Wenger has been so adamant to introduce attacking players who can defend as part of the evolution of his philosophy but also because of how we've defended this season (particularly poorly at times).
Once the team naturally settles towards a defence-attack balance he will be slightly less insistent on attacking players defending and perhaps people will give Theo less stick for his lack of a polished defensive game which is the main reason (seemingly) he isn't in the side. I can't really believe that if he plays wide right he isn't going to rack up a fair numbers of goals or assists and probably justify his place. Of course if he isn't playing regularly he isn't quite as sharp and perhaps doesn't get the numbers and various people can keep the convenient cycle or circumstantial evidence as to why he shouldn't be in the team going.
Theo should be starting games over Welbeck. I can’t see Danny developing into a better player than Theo when playing out wide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
I think both of them are pretty crap at the moment but I'd agree with you that between both of them, Theo is the lesser shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I'm sure he's playing more defensive minded players while Debuchy is out. Would you want Theo starting in front of Bellerin? It's too much of a risk at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Disagree. Both players have pace, starting acceleration and have designs on being strikers. Welbeck can dribble, change direction and hold off defenders due to his superior physique. where he lets himself down is his shooting, getting the ball on target. If he could do that he would be better than any of our so called strikers.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Walcott on the other hand has acceleration and has developed into a good finisher. He wasnt so great to begin with and his first touch has also improved. What i cannot understand for the life of me is why he has no guile. he cannot move laterally with the ball at his feet but only move in the direction straight to goal. Hios pace is his greatest asset but how long before age and injuries rob him of that.
Put it another way. If Oxlade-C could learn how to finish, he would be twice the player Walcott is. I would dispense of Walcott purely because:
1, Ox will replace him and Gnabry too soon.
2, Welbeck is younger and can improve if he can focus on his composure
3, Walcott wants a starting place which we cant give him and his salary demands are higher than his value.
I would argue also that Bellerin can get to where Walcott is is a few years IF we can get a RB that can last 4 games w/o breaking down to play behind him....that kid is FAST