Match Reaction Man Utd 1-1 Le Bumbling Idiot

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I think it's a combination of lack of resources and Wengers inability/unwillingness to adapt to the changing game. The main difference to the game that has shown Wenger up is the change in the scouting down by other clubs, the players that Wenger brought in to win titles were largely cheap to buy and because prodigious young talent comes to notice that much quicker in a world of you tube etc, Wenger is being out priced in his usual scouting areas...and players that could win him titles based on their individual brilliance rather than his managerial brilliance aren't easy to come by. And he's had to go for players that whilst technically gifted don't have the physicality or mental strength to win the big prizes.
To put it simply his winning formula was an ability to spot and nurture talent, he's never been a brilliant tactician, he's allowed his players to shape their own destiny on the pitch and that approach doesn't work anymore.

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Yeah, he was never a great tactician. You could see that from the early days when he arrived and it's become even more clear now that the standard in the Prem has gotten better. We also used to have a team that could outrun the opposition over 90 minutes. We'd have them dizzy and gasping for air with out short passing and quick breaks until they totally broke down and just couldn't defend. That's just not the case anymore. The games caught up.

But even if we take all this into consideration, I don't know why hasn't tried to adjust, changed his backroom staff or just demanded more money to get the best players we can afford. Instead, it seems like it's outside pressure that's getting him to spend or Gazidis having a word with him to let him know that we need to spend. It's the stubbornness that's really damaged his reputation. He was untouchable once upon a time.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

The other thing ive observed is that Wenger does not like players with strong personalities. The demise of the team as leaders in competition has strangely coincided with the loss of leaders in the dressing room. He got rid of Ian Wright after his first season. Wrighty still had so much to offer and players like Anelka could have learnt a lot from him (or not in Nicks case). Adams also left (possibly a good descision as he was way past his best), but he also kept Winterburn, Seaman and Dixon far too long, so why was Adams shown the door?. The biggest miss of course was Vieira, I dont know if he was as gregarious behind the scenes as he was on it but he was missed certainly as a leader. We have not had a dominant personality in the squad since. As difficult as it is to manage these characters, every team needs one, otherwise the team as a whole starts to take on the personality of the manager instead, good if your manager is SAF, not so good if he isnt.

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I'm not sure that's true, I think what Wenger doesn't like is people that are too colourful in their private life off the pitch, Ian Wright was 35 when we got rid of him, Wenger did him a favour by playing him enough times in 1997/1998 so that he'd pick up a winners medal.
Adams wasnt show the door either, he was there until 2002 when he retired at 35
Vieira wasn't a big personality and the decision to make him Captain was to stop him
Sulking when we wouldn't sell him to Man United in 2001. He wasnt a natural leader in the conventional sense but he knew which of the players in the side were big personalities so he used to delegate as a kind of team leadership to them, for instance he asked Sol Campbell to bawl him out if he had neglected his defensive duties.
There was a big mutual respect between these players and Wenger as they saw him as an older brother who would treat them like adults and work things out for themselves, where as today's pampered overgrown man child isn't the same.