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Lol. What more can be said?
Well, I do think the Utd game is important in terms of our title prospects.Quote:
Originally Posted by adzzzbatch
But ultimately you judge any manager at any club in any season at the end.
Every season has ups and downs, it's only at the end you can properly assess how things have gone.
It's very 'GW' how such an obviously true statement is lampooned and used as a basis for so much WUMming :lol:
This CL campaign has been a fiasco so far. Although Wenger's generally got a poor record in the CL we've pretty much always qualified from the group. Didn't see last night's game so can't comment sensibly on it but...yeah, you probably should be beating Olympiarcos at home fairly comfortably :doh:
Judge me at the end of the season :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
It isn't lampooning Letters. You've become a parody of yourself through your posts over the past couple of months.
Nobody needs to wait another Nanosecond to judge Wenger. If this was The equivalent of David Moyes in his first season, I'd agree wholeheartedly with you. But it isn't, we have a mountain of evidence built up over a large period of time that provides conclusive data demonstrating that a judgement can reasonably be made right here and right now.
Wenger is not up to the job and is showing no sign at all of proving otherwise.
I think if we lose to Utd I will finally snap.
Then GW will be a dark, dark place.
You'll miss my cheery reasonableness, you know...
I kind of want us to lose now just to see that happen :lol:
:lol: This place would just implode I think.
What are the odds on us finishing 4th with 0 points?
You said it best here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
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Don't be so impatient. I'll wait to see what he does by the end of the Summer transfer window. By which time the season will have started, so it'll be impossible to judge him then.
I'm willing to write off the CL if we it means mounting a title challenge. We just have to beat United to restore some credibility.
We're out of the CL, two beatings from teams with a solid tradition of being on the rough end of beatings themselves. We haven't turned up for the competition. We're as far away from competing for this thing as we have ever been. Despite the new money, despite world class signings. We're nowhere. Why do we have to wait until the end to assess what's happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...rce-olympiakos
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Wenger blamed the lack of “quality in our defensive concentration” for the defeat while he lamented bad luck, too. Olympiakos, he noted, had mustered only four shots on target but departed with three goals. “This happens once in 100 games in the Champions League,” Wenger said.
Someone needs to take him to school on this. What's the relevance? Zagreb only managed 4 shots on goal last week and scored 2! Anderlecht came to the Emirates had 5 shots on goal and scored 3. Dortmund in 2013 at home only managed 3 shots on goal but scored 2. Schalke beat us in 2012 at home 0-2 with only 2 shots on target!
Every cloud and all that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Lame ass excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Wenger, the victim of cruel and outlandish statistics and bad fortune. Otherwise he'd have won this competition every year. Why does it always happen to us? How unlucky can you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Is that what he wants the fans to say?
Pretty much. We're not going to win the CL, we should be getting out of that group but if we did win the league (:lol:) I could live with an early exit from the CL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
If we balls it up against Utd then :ilt:
Because that's not the only competition we're competing in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I might as well spread the joy. :lol: There isn’t anything to restore. Even if we beat the breaks off Man Utd it won’t redefine our season or awaken some sort of new strength in our team because we have Wenger at the helm. Last night’s result is us all over. We suddenly look like we can find the back of the net, the press are talking up Theo, the press and pundits are now starting to believe and forgetting about our lack of signings in the summer and then we go on to do this. Bench our one signing and play like shit in defence. We’ll solve one problem but create another for ourselves. It’s an endless rut and Wenger creates the problems for himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Competing? You slipped that one in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
So around the end of May we'll be able to confirm Wenger REMAINS a laughing stock in terms of his record in European football? Okay.
Until then what do we do? Do we just not talk about it or do we pretend we won or something?
As defeatist as this might sound so early on in the season I think the United game is more about pride than anything else. This team aint winning any major prizes with Wenger in charge, both PL & CL are write offs for me, the domestic cups are as good as we are going to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We have players that need to turn up for that game. Has Ozil ever turned up for one of 'big statement' games?Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
We know what we'll be getting from that bloke on Sunday - nothing. Too much of a fairweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Only hope we have of winning comes from Alexis and maybe Theo.
If we balls things up on Sunday I'll agree, if we do win though then there would be a glimmer of hope - we'd be no worse than 2 points off the top if we win and while this lot clearly have the capacity to balls things up at a moments notice no-one else is looking that solid either.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
*sigh*
I really don't know what to make of this lot any more...
It seems that way. I hope we're not offering him a new contract. Not yet anyway. A huge disappointment of a player and he doesn't turn up for these must win games. Even against shit opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
You have to go game by game. We really don't know what will happen in that game but that doesn't bother me. It's the West Ham games or games like yesterday that will kill off our season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Aye, Nah Ozil is a massive disappointment for me, he is so weak and has yet to put in a big game performance. He has form for this too because prior to his time here one of the complaints he got from Madrid fans was that he bottled the big games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
As much as we'd all love to see that happen, I can't think of a team in recent memory that have been this poor in Europe and then gone on to win the league. At least City can point to Juventus, Chelsea to Porto and Utd to PSV. Respectable teams that can turn up on the night but our two losses? Wenger has always insisted that doing well in the PL ties in with competing in the CL and vice versa, so we can't separate the two. This team cannot sustain form to go for a title challenge, we've already seen this season after ten games how erratic we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It could, but the thing is all teams have those - and I'm not sure we're having them any more than anyone else, we haven't so far. Even City who once looked invincible are now looking...vincible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Who knows any more :(
We need to do something about it. Cazorla had an off night as well. It was the same against Chelsea. They just didn't have a hold of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Ramsey has been off this season but he really added something to our game when he came on last night. He needs a place back in the middle. Created two chances with his cameo appearance. The same amount Ozil created all game. Cazorla created zero chances. I don't know why these guys switch off so often but I heard they both had slow starts against Leicester as well.
What will happen to this club if Wenger opts to stay after 2017? We'll be like a branch of Boots, a place where boring, functional stuff happens so the owners can make a lot of money. If we knew Wenger was leaving when his current contract expires at least there would be something to look forward to. As it is, we could be sitting here in 2020 watching the same old shit.
But let's focus on our team. Forget what the former Champions are doing. This is why I say there is no defining game for us. No indication of progress because we could win next week in a massive game and then lose two on the trot to teams we were odds on to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I would personally drop Ozil for the big games, shift Ramsey to CM and Santi to AM. The fundamental issue here as we all know is the balance of the team, Wenger trying to fit all these AM's into the starting XI just messes things up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
When they are all on song it is a joy to watch but when things aren't working we get these erratic error strewn performances like last night. I agree with what you say about this team, we literally don't know what we are going to get from one game to the next.
I'd agree on that but it won't happen. He'll drop Ox and play all three. It won't help Ox. He had a poor game last night but it won't do his confidence any good. I don't know how he'll relax and not be so hard on himself, as Wenger puts it, if he's now had the spotlight put on him and then dropped. I'd play him in the next game just so we have a balanced squad. There is no point in going into the Utd game with Ramsey playing wide.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
And yet we know what the line-up will be on the weekend. No significant changes in personnel or positioning. Ozil starting, Ramsey out wide, Santi CM. Same old shit. Just told to go out there and 'do their thing'. I tell you, if this league was half-decent anymore, we'd be a top 8 team now. No doubt at some stage the team will go on a winning streak, when we are miles off the top of the premier, producing more fantastic calendar year stats that can be spouted by those deluded enough next season who will believe things will improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Depressing stuff. Just as Sanchez finds his mojo, Theo looking like a real option up front and Giroud benched, we create another problem for ourselves. Besides the midfield issue, our defence have gone back to switching off. It's never ending.
Santi has been shit for quite a few games now
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQGtgcfXAAANF3t.png
He's full on morphed into Arteta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
I remember when he could take on his man and was also ruthless enough to take pot shots.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Why should we force Wenger to retire when it's so clear he hates his tall, plain wife?
Talk about selfish
WengeritisQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Debilitating and degenerative wasting disease which affects players who are constantly played out of position.