Match Reaction Bournemouth 0-2 Arsenal

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Originally Posted by alexander

and are joint 2nd on points.... Yep, its a dire situation we are in.

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Nobody said we were in a dire situation. But let me remind you - and I really don't care what the gypos or the chavs are up to, I'm talking about us - Leicester City are kicking our arses. I'm not sure from which planet the excuses to cover Wenger are coming from but it must be a strange place. It's dire in a way, just a little bit maybe.

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Originally Posted by Kano

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What's next? A considered and meaningful blank posting?

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Originally Posted by alexander

and are joint 2nd on points.... Yep, its a dire situation we are in.

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I understand - and share, actually - some of the frustration. We should be doing better, we've thrown away silly points over the last month or so and find ourselves struggling to hold on to Leicester's (Leicester! :lol:) coat-tails. But yeah, the level of whining and WUMming is out of control on here.

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Originally Posted by alexander

and are joint 2nd on points.... Yep, its a dire situation we are in.

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If we had a decent Manager, we'd be top. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Are you saying it's just me? Or are all the fans who are waking up to Wenger suspect? You have to be a Wenger devotee to be a fan, is that it? Anyone who wakes up - GTFO?

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Are Wenger devotee and constant WUMming and insulting Wenger in every sodding post the only two options?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Nobody said we were in a dire situation. But let me remind you - and I really don't care what the gypos or the chavs are up to, I'm talking about us - Leicester City are kicking our arses. I'm not sure from which planet the excuses to cover Wenger are coming from but it must be a strange place. It's dire in a way, just a little bit maybe.

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Talking about us? We are right in there, won today, still a long way to go. We are in the FA Cup, still in CL. Really, it could be so much worse. Its early Feb, we were never going to win the league by now anyway. Its not perfect, but who is? Nobody.

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Originally Posted by Chippy

If we had a decent Manager, we'd be top. Just saying.

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You cant say that! Its made up.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I understand - and share, actually - some of the frustration. We should be doing better, we've thrown away silly points over the last month or so and find ourselves struggling to hold on to Leicester's (Leicester! :lol:) coat-tails. But yeah, the level of whining and WUMming is out of control on here.

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No it isn't and the only thing standing between Wenger and an outright mutiny is the hardcore Wenger base that time and time again ignores facts in favour of maybes and next times and it was the pitch or look at that club over there but don't look at us. It's the denial that's out of control.

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Originally Posted by Chippy

If we had a decent Manager, we'd be top. Just saying.

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Prove it.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I understand - and share, actually - some of the frustration. We should be doing better, we've thrown away silly points over the last month or so and find ourselves struggling to hold on to Leicester's (Leicester! :lol:) coat-tails. But yeah, the level of whining and WUMming is out of control on here.

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I too can agree with some of NQs frustrations, really I do. But it could be a whole heap worse, and in many previous seasons has been.

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Glad we won - but it was an incredibly dull, lifeless performance.

I'm worried that the win will somehow provide validation to Wenger that he has the central MF pairing right.

He hasn't. And if he sticks with it, Leicester will stick it to us next week.

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I think it will. It's a strange one because he said something about finishing being linked to the quality of the chances created. Today, we created a lot less clear cut chances but finished them off. No idea what he'll do for the next game but today was dull.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I think it will. It's a strange one because he said something about finishing being linked to the quality of the chances created. Today, we created a lot less clear cut chances but finished them off. No idea what he'll do for the next game but today was dull.

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Nobody wants dull, (I dont for sure, Ive been spoilt by Henry/pires/berkamp etc!!) but chelsea `dulled` it to the title from december on last season, and I would take that!

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Originally Posted by alexander

Talking about us? We are right in there, won today, still a long way to go. We are in the FA Cup, still in CL. Really, it could be so much worse. Its early Feb, we were never going to win the league by now anyway. Its not perfect, but who is? Nobody.

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But this is exactly what many are talking about. Wenger has this ability to persuade people his bog standard average bullshit is acceptable. It could be worse. It might get better, judge him at the end of the season, it's not over yet, if we can win there and there. Okay, but what about the squad and tactics and substitutions and ambition on the pitch and our general level of performance. I mean we were absolutely awful today. Was that an Arsenal team? I really fucking hope not. And that has been the level of our performance for most of this season. Yes, we are "in" the CL, technically. But you know it's only that. We have zero chance of doing anything in that competition. He couldn't even win it with Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Vieira at his disposal. Come on, snap out of it!

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Originally Posted by alexander

I too can agree with some of NQs frustrations, really I do. But it could be a whole heap worse, and in many previous seasons has been.

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I agree with him that Leicester shouldn't be kicking our arses but...well, they're kicking everyone's arses so that reflects badly on everyone.
I've no idea what they're playing at this season, if there do win it then it will be the best thing to happen in football for a very long time.

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Originally Posted by alexander

I too can agree with some of NQs frustrations, really I do. But it could be a whole heap worse, and in many previous seasons has been.

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I think this season will go down as one of the most frustrating because we are out of excuses. We have the new TV deal money along with our new sponsorship money so can afford to spend big in the transfer window. City have practically sabotaged their own season with this Pep fiasco. Man Utd and Chelsea are nothing to worry about. But the biscuit is seeing Leicester take advantage of our rivals instability whilst we can't and we're the most stable team out of all of our rivals.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

But this is exactly what many are talking about. Wenger has this ability to persuade people his bog standard average bullshit is acceptable. It could be worse. It might get better, judge him at the end of the season, it's not over yet, if we can win there and there. Okay, but what about the squad and tactics and substitutions and ambition on the pitch and our general level of performance. I mean we were absolutely awful today. Was that an Arsenal team? I really fucking hope not. And that has been the level of our performance for most of this season. Yes, we are "in" the CL, technically. But you know it's only that. We have zero chance of doing anything in that competition. He couldn't even win it with Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Vieira at his disposal. Come on, snap out of it!

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But this `bog standard average bullshit` has us second in league, in FA Cup and CL! You quote me as "in" the CL, and we are! we might lose, but we might win, its 50/50. You cant judge on something that hasnt happened yet.

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Originally Posted by alexander

Nobody wants dull, (I dont for sure, Ive been spoilt by Henry/pires/berkamp etc!!) but chelsea `dulled` it to the title from december on last season, and I would take that!

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I'm not saying I wouldn't either. It's just I don't get what Wenger is seeing with his team selection. If he thought we didn't create really great chances in our last game, there is no way he can say we created better quality chances in this one. So saying that, surely he makes a change to the midfield pairing or maybe the striker up top? We have some serious games coming up and I can't see him tinkering so late on but he really should. I think we're in serious trouble if we play this team again.

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Originally Posted by alexander

Nobody wants dull, (I dont for sure, Ive been spoilt by Henry/pires/berkamp etc!!) but chelsea `dulled` it to the title from december on last season, and I would take that!

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That's the fundamental difference then. I despised the chavs for what they did last season. It was the antithesis of everything I believe sporting endeavour to be about.

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Originally Posted by alexander

But this `bog standard average bullshit` has us second in league, in FA Cup and CL! You quote me as "in" the CL, and we are! we might lose, but we might win, its 50/50. You cant judge on something that hasnt happened yet.

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We've already lost to Barca. It just hasn't happened yet, but trust me on this, And if it wasn't them it would be take your pick. We haven't been in that competition for years, not in a meaningful way. Manager has been shown up so many times now, is it really that difficult to predict what happens? JHC even Di Matteo could figure out the basics - the basics being let the players manage the team. I wish Wenger would do that.

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Originally Posted by alexander

I think it was NQ in the match thread that said wenger was destroying Alexis confidence by taking him off at 70 mins. Like Coq, he has had a long injury lay-off and Wenger knows these two players are crucial to the rest of our season and title challenge. yes, we are still in with a shot, whatever NQ and others still bang on about, we are joint 2nd, and a win next week makes it wide open again.
He cannot risk these players more than he has too. I fully expect Coq to be starting next weekend. If he does them in before we play Vardy and his high flying rabble and spurs, there will be a massive uproar.

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We are not joint 2nd. That is spin. We're third.

That midfield partnership is a prime reason why and there is no way he should be persisting with this regardless of the situation.

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Originally Posted by alexander

But this `bog standard average bullshit` has us second in league, in FA Cup and CL! You quote me as "in" the CL, and we are! we might lose, but we might win, its 50/50. You cant judge on something that hasnt happened yet.

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We aren't second. That goal difference actually counts. We are third to Leicester City and the spuds. All we can really take from that is we're not the only "big" club that has been humiliated.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

That's the fundamental difference then. I despised the chavs for what they did last season. It was the antithesis of everything I believe sporting endeavour to be about.

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what, winning?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We aren't second. That goal difference actually counts.

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splitting hairs.

Would you be annoyed if wenger wins the title this year?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I think this season will go down as one of the most frustrating because we are out of excuses. We have the new TV deal money along with our new sponsorship money so can afford to spend big in the transfer window. City have practically sabotaged their own season with this Pep fiasco. Man Utd and Chelsea are nothing to worry about. But the biscuit is seeing Leicester take advantage of our rivals instability whilst we can't and we're the most stable team out of all of our rivals.

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I agree. Actually, fun it - Wenger probably should be sacked if we don't win it this year. I don't agree he should be sacked if he does but Chelsea have imploded, Utd are not up to much, City could well be destabilized by the Pep thing. We are the most stable club and we shouldn't be finishing below Spurs or Leicester.

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Originally Posted by alexander

splitting hairs.

Would you be annoyed if wenger wins the title this year?

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Yes very. But delighted if the team can do it because it would mean our better players might stay.

Anyway, I wouldn't consider it a Wenger win, I'd consider it the players somehow dragging his arse along despite his antics.

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Originally Posted by alexander

what, winning?

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Winning by playing the game and being the best at it, not destroying it. You can win in many ways, some ways are worth of tribute others are worthy of contempt.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Anyway, I wouldn't consider it a Wenger win, I'd consider it the players somehow dragging his arse along despite his antics.

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of course :yawn::yawn:

Right Im done here. I will say its not perfect, but its not as bad as some make out.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Winning by playing the game and being the best at it, not destroying it. You can win in many ways, some ways are worth of tribute others are worthy of contempt.

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winning the league is being the best at it. better than all the other teams.

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Originally Posted by alexander

of course :yawn::yawn:

Right Im done here. I will say its not perfect, but its not as bad as some make out.

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Good quote to end on. In the pursuit of excellence, things aren't as bad as some make out.

Flamini should be facing a ban now. Filthy tackle and uneccessary.

Utter dickhead tbh.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Flamini should be facing a ban now. Filthy tackle and uneccessary.

Utter dickhead tbh.

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Well Coq has been in training for 3 weeks now so maybe, just maybe, after another week's training Wenger might consider him fit to play in place of Flamini.

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Originally Posted by alexander

But this `bog standard average bullshit` has us second in league, in FA Cup and CL! You quote me as "in" the CL, and we are! we might lose, but we might win, its 50/50. You cant judge on something that hasnt happened yet.

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There's nothing 50/50 about the Barca tie bro. We're toast.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Flamini should be facing a ban now. Filthy tackle and uneccessary.

Utter dickhead tbh.

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We can't have a go at Tiny and the victim Shawcross without keeping an eye on this Flamini bloke. That's horrible what he's doing there. And he has a history of it.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...4852839748.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFG5z0lOl4

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We can't have a go at Tiny and the victim Shawcross without keeping an eye on this Flamini bloke. That's horrible what he's doing there. And he has a history of it.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...4852839748.jpg

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He is a muppet. Being Ozil's bestie will probably earn him a contract extension.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We can't have a go at Tiny and the victim Shawcross without keeping an eye on this Flamini bloke. That's horrible what he's doing there. And he has a history of it.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...4852839748.jpg

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Wengers answer to this: "a red would've been harsh"

"I thought it was going to be a foul for us when I saw it live"

Really?! Fucking really!!??!!

It's not the first two footed challenge we've seen from Flamini.

Missed the game so didn't see that. What a moron, that could of really cost us yesterday. Have to hope Coq starts against Leicester. Also need Alexis to start firing again to have any chance of reeling them in. I still remain totally unconvinced we have the manager and players to win it.

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Originally Posted by alexander

But this `bog standard average bullshit` has us second in league, in FA Cup and CL! You quote me as "in" the CL, and we are! we might lose, but we might win, its 50/50. You cant judge on something that hasnt happened yet.

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50/50 really? Barca are going to tear us a new one, their forward line will destroy our back line, wouldn't be surprised to see us lose 4-5 nil in the 2nd leg, at home we may get a lucky win if they have an off night in front of goal (as they have before) but we have preciselty zero chance of beating Barca, therefore your 50/50 assessment is delusional to say the least.

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Originally Posted by Özim

50/50 really? Barca are going to tear us a new one, their forward line will destroy our back line, wouldn't be surprised to see us lose 4-5 nil in the 2nd leg, at home we may get a lucky win if they have an off night in front of goal (as they have before) but we have preciselty zero chance of beating Barca, therefore your 50/50 assessment is delusional to say the least.

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write it off and play the reserves