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I think we have to get behind them tomorrow. As much as I have zero faith in our ability to pick things up, we are capable of going on a run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
If we go behind tomorrow or, worse, lose then I can see things getting ugly* in the ground.
* - make up your own "why, are you going Letters?" joke.
We should burn the place down.
Nah. They'd only make a profit on the insurance money.
I still think what's called for is having a unrepentant sex offender who can't be allowed around women for safety reasons on the coaching staff, and if we lose or perform badly a player will be picked at random and the sex offender will be given their address and invited to pop round to see the missus when he's out.
I didn't write that well (was a bit drunk). I meant to say I can foresee cracks appearing, rather than seeing now.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Or, worse, threaten to start letting Zim do the team talks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
No worries man, that's cool and that's your opinion. I wish I could share your optimism.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
Cant be worse than Wenger tbh... :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Game of two halves, hunger, desire, passion, bollocks, clichés, bottlebank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It's true. There is literally no way things could get worse than us being 3rd.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Tomorrows game isn't a worry, we should win that comfortably, the game against Spurs however best I can see us getting is a draw and that won't be good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We've blown it IMO, this lot are a bunch of pansy bottlers.
The team talk is pretty anodyne to the way a team performs
It's about working on tactics in training and nullifying the strengths of the opposistion whilst extolling your own
Something we know just doesn't happen. Aside from beasting players I don't actually know what Wenger is doing in training.
You realise we haven't beaten Swansea at home in the league since September 2011?Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Yeah but they've been dogshite this season, nothing like what they were before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
We certainly look like we're blowing it but improbably a win tomorrow would see us only 3 points off the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I don't have much confidence in our lot right now but we are capable of going on a run.
Who knows any more. There will be a few more twists in this title race yet.
Little crumbs of hope for Arsenal after the mighty Leicester City drop points.
We've blown it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We're doing our best to. Luckily no-one else has been much good this year. Win tonight and we're 3 points off the top, ridiculously.
We don't deserve to win the league but it could yet fall into our lap if we sort our lives out.
Leicester and Spurs will drop points no doubt. But we will drop just as many if not more before the end of the season. I can't see us winning it now, too many issues in our current set up.
Aye, it scares the shit out of me to think the Spuds could do it, they have the look of champions :yikes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
We've got to give it one last go starting from tonight.
I don't hold out much hope but a win on Sat might at least dent their chances a bit. :pray:
I still think City are capable of putting a title run together in their remaining games. They've done it before and certainly think they are more capable than us of doing so. The cup win might just kick them on.
I can't see us winning it, but we're capable of doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
Agree with your posts on this my man. There's no escaping the fact that Wenger simply doesn't have a plan. Its not even the Cazorla/Coq replacement issue - its the fact that the past few years have been a constant experiment with midfield/attacking midfield players. It truly seems as though the manager simply swaps players in and out - plays them out of and in position in the hope that he will stumble on the right solution. It worked (surprisingly) with Coq/Caz - but I don't buy that this was planned - and Coq was a fortuitous result of injury and the manager having noone else to play there. I thought that Saturday illustrated Wenger's approach perfectly. He brings on Iwobi for Welbeck (too late as usual) - and while Iwobi has not disgraced himself in his cameo's this season; this sub is clearly in hope rather than expectation - as the more sensible sub would have been Campbell - a player who has exceeded expectations this season, and scored goals. It seems that Wenger simply doesn't plan properly for like for like players to be available to replace his inevitable injuries - and his team looks currently exactly like it is - a ragtag bunch of individuals thrown together in the hope that some alchemy may occur. Its no wonder there is no composure, no certainly and little confidence in our team.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Come May (4th I think) we'll be playing the gypos to see who finishes 4th. At best. It'll be us of course. I can't begin to imagine what sort of excuses Wenger comes out with when that happens. In some perverse way it will be the best entertainment of the season, listening to him dodge and duck and weave hopefully for the last time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
I'm still not willing to throw in the towel just yet but what a timid, gutless, pathetic performance we have just witnessed.
If it wasn't such a reality-distorting season I would give up but as it is we are pretty much as we were thanks to Spurs, City and Leicester slipping up too...
If things continue like they have then only Leicester can truly claim to deserve it. Spurs are getting too many plaudits simply because they are in the mix and have showed some relative consistency. In any case, in this mad season I still think we can win it. If we don't win at Spurs then that would pretty much finish it off. Nobody sensible would make that bet now but in perhaps the biggest NLD of all time, anything could happen.
I would love Wenger to say if we don't win the league now he will resign. If the players can't motivate themselves, then perhaps they could do it out of the loyalty he has shown them. For all his faults as a coach, the players do seem to respect him massively. If they have any ounce of self-respect that statement would make them push as hard as they can.
EDIT: Just heard about Cech. Well, that makes it even more an impossible mission...fucking hell...
We might have a chance of winning League 2.
I think we'll drop out of the top 4, we're only 4 points ahead of United now and City are right behind us.
No chance. 4th place is ours! Guaranteed. All we need is for the gypos to string a few wins together. It's on!Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
You should've seen City tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Forget it lads, this team is flimsy as fuck. Even if we beat Spurs they don't have the fortitude to see it through.
Spurs.
I'm going to have to emigrate at the of the season. :(
fuck are we beating sp*rs I know they lost tonight too, but they'll sure as hell be more up for it come Saturday lunchtime than our sorry lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
They'll finish above us they always do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Nah, not this season. They've been even worse than us. And that's with their hero Kompany back in the side too.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
With any luck West Ham or Utd will take fourth and leave Pep without a CL football.
If we beat Hull midweek (big if), is next Saturday's game v West Bromwich postponed due to the FA Cup? We should play Watford next weekend, I'm guessing.
A lot of if and buts and permutations, but if we do play in the Cup, we could be 4th and 11 points behind Leicester by next Monday :(
That's right. However until we start winning games again you can't consider us in it anyway.
Even the game v West Brom, a home banker in the past, seems ever so daunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
4th place cup. We're back in the only race that counts tbh.
We'll start playing for that, the title is long gone however, what will happen though is that we'll win a few Wenger will feel vindicated and talk about our unbeaten run at the end of the season and believe we're better than the best team on the planet, Gazidis will offer Wenger a new contract saying how lucky we are and how much belief they have and how they support Wenger 100% as he's does the best job possible for the club and the Arsenal fans that go to the stadium will forget everything that has happened before and think AW is god's gift to football. Next season, rinse and repeat. Sad but true, nothing ever changes at this club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We're not winning it this year and that was pretty easy to determine a couple of months back. When we were pubbing shitty wins but putting in dire performances it was easy to figure the randomness of it all would eventually turn against us an expose us. It was always about the performances, never about the results. All the excuses after those shit performances - good draw, that's a hard place to go to - they are our bogey team - it's the mark of a champion to win when playing shit. And so on. Yes, it's the mark of a champion to pub the odd result, but champions eventually leave the pub. We never did. A couple of times against Bayern and Utd. Even in the Utd game it was horrible to watch us slack off in that second half. The spray can was out ready to write on the wall, even during that game. In fact opening a brand new season and failing to turn up, that told us everything about Wenger and what was likely to unfold. But it's hard to say we're done on the opening day of a season - there's still such a long way to go and anything can happen.
But know this - with Wenger there is only one outcome. Poverty on the pitch and riches in the boardroom. That's his job. That's what he's here for and that's why he'll be staying despite this latest collapse.
Leicester were always winning it. You can tell when a team is in control of its own destiny. You can spot it. These are players committed to a clearly defined cause - winning. Marshalled by a manger who has one focus - winning. You can tell them they aren't good enough, you can talk about fairy tales, you can do all that but they keep their focus. No mercenaries, no prima donnas, 18 guys doing the business on the pitch being directed by one guy who knows what's important. Who even owns Leicester? We don't hear about it? It's not about them, it's about the team. Imagine that.
Leicester won't just win this - they'll walk it. I figure if we can drag ourselves out of this new Wenger low we might get 70 points. Think about how many games Leicester will have to lose for use to be anywhere near come May.
Meanwhile we better watch out for West Ham because there's another committed team behind a man who knows what he wants and what it takes to get it.