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Unless we've sold him already, he's an Arsenal player.
Worst kept secret in football.....
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Originally Posted by Maestro
We judge how midfielders play by goals now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He won a couple players of the month awards the end of that season. It wasn't the basics, it was his confidence returning.
I don't know when he has had a partner that could provide positional stability and build in the first phase. He has it now and I think a return to form will happen. 18 months is not a purple patch, especially when we saw him break into the side with Fabregas and co. He was also good on his return back to the side this year.Quote:
Has he breasted on anyone since? Was this just a purple patch? I don't think someone doing the basics further back field will help his game. He doesn't need freedom. He needs to be pulled in and told to keep it simple and the rest will flow. It's not as if he's lethal and consistent in the box either. His touch and finishing can sometimes let him down. He used to get it badly wrong at the other end of the pitch and we've seen some of that this season. I really don't know if giving him the freedom to roam further forward is the answer.
I think he needs a coach to get in his ear so let's hope he has a good Euros. I think his run off goo form started at International level and was totally different to how he was playing at club level before his purple patch. Again, I'm just saying I think it's more down to coaching and Ramsey sorting his head out over him needing a specific player next to him. As said, I'd you were laying attention to his best season with us you'd see he was playing well with Flamini and even Wilshere in the middle with no Arteta in sight? What does that tell you?
I think we will see a return.
I thought you argument was Arteta being the man that provides stability in the first phase?Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
I'm not judging Ramsey on his goals, I'm just going off this premise that he needs 'liberating'. It's part of his duty to build play from the first phase as well. It just seems to me you're suggesting we need a player like Xhaka to 'liberate' him so he can play further up the pitch. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But again, I say in the months where Ramsey showed his best form, he could have played with any player in the midfield. It didn't matter. Once he started helping out and making the simple passes deeper on the pitch, working the ball forward, he started to find space and the goals came. Now it seems like he's trying to bypass the first phase of play and just wants to be involved in the final third action when we're in possession. He'll rush forward after making a pass without thinking he may need to support the build up play. It's what Elneny and Cazorla do very well and what Ramsey neglects. That's my main problem with him. We'll see if Xhaka makes a difference.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...h-granit-xhaka
Finally confirmed.
Sell him, he's shit!
We've signed Granit? Are you sure? Is it written in stone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
Love left footed DCMs.
What a man. :bow:
WENGER OUT!
Real have shown us the way Morata! We can't just wait for clubs to buy our star players off us - we need to be more proactive...Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Nice to be doing business earlier. Now sign a striker! A proper one.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BF09UsMP...by=granitxhaka
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granitxhakaNow it’s official. From next season on I will play for @Arsenal. I want to thank everyone at @borussia. Together we brought the club back to where it belongs, to the Champions League. I will always look back with pleasure to that time. But from now on I’m totally focused on playing at one of the biggest clubs in the world. It's a big honour for me to wear the Arsenal jersey, as well as it has been an honour to play for Gladbach in the last four years. I hope we see each other again in the Champions League! ✊ #Xhaka#GX34#PremierLeague#Thanks
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjS_UA9WEAABFL3.jpg:large
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I will sit on this football until it hatchesQuote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Hurray! I hope that spells doom for the undisciplined, injury prone and underperfomering CM's that will remain nameless.
We've needed a rock in midfield for a long time.
Glad we spent £30mill on Granit rather than £50mill on Stones.
I've read a few articles comparing Xhaka to Alonso and Scweinsteiger. Sounds good.
It will be pointless if Arsene sits on his arse and does nothing else this summer. Honestly, if he comes out with the excuse that nobody was available he's an idiot. We need a striker at all costs.
Heard a comparison with Petit today, but we shall see.
Just hope he isnt injury prone and made of porcelain...Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
His fitness record up until now counts for nothing - just wait until the Angel of Death on our medical team gets hold of him...
I am sure he will be a good signing and I'm glad he is here.
I am also sure that he will be sent off early on next season and he must learn from it.
A world class striker next please Arsene.
He's missed 15 games through injury since 2011 and only 10 games through physical injury, the rest were down to colds and flu.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/grani...spieler/111455
Granit seems to be durable.
Updated the thread title. :geek:
Expect that to double within the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I think our "specialists" in football always miss out on something before making a comment . A team does not sign a striker following his previous statistics only . They look at many things . Such as : his positioning , his runs , how he combines with his team mates , how quick he can spot a potential pass , how he can bring others into play , the ratio of his finishing ..etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Anyone can score goals if in a good position . A defender or a midfielder can both score .
Look at Diego Costa statistics before he moves to Chelsea , would you say he is not a good striker ?
2007-2008 Celta (loan) Games (30). Goals (6)
2009-2010 Valladolid. ,, (34). ,, (8)
2010-2011 Atletico Madrid. (20). ,, (3)
2012-2014. ,, (74). (40)
Based to his statistics bar Atlectico's , would you say he is not a top striker ? Any player who has potential to be a good striker can score more goals if he is having good passes from the midfield .
Costa scored 36 goals in his last season before moving to Chelsea. But saying that, I wasn't convinced he'd fit into our style of play when he was on the market either. Seeing how he's struggled with Spain, I think he'd struggle with how we try to play which is similar to how Spain try to play but less efficient. I'll consider the stats but also the their style of play and if it's something we desperately need. Making good runs, bringing others into play, passing ability....all factors but we're missing a striker with that killer instinct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Morata's numbers aren't impressive. 12 and 15 goals in his two seasons for Juve. Has never scored more than 20 in the league and it's a concern because Wenger has said we need a striker that can score 20 or more in the league. If he think he has the potential to score more...great. I can't see the potential but I'm no expert so could be wrong. But considering the climate around the club and the other players touted around the market, I don't see why have to take such a risk.
But the question for you is, going off what you've said; we've bought strikers in the past with unimpressive numbers, Chamakh, Sanogo, Giroud, Welbeck from recent history. They've been risky buys with potential. But have they gone on to become top strikers? You know the answer to that one and it's why we're having this discussion about Morata.
Yep, good signing. Totally agree about the striker thing too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Good signing.. I am sure the hierarchy at the club noticed the lack of season ticket renewals. We are getting good players.. all that remains is for the fossil to disappear!
Spine of the team is still weak. CB and striker needed.
Cech - Fine
Kos - Needs a world class partner
Xhaka - Let's hope he's decent
Ozil
Steaming turd mound - work needed here, that's for sure. We can't possibly go another window without correcting this.
If they fill in that spine this summer then Wenger and the gang will have indicated they are finally serious about football. If they don't, well they confirm again what they seem to be about. No excuses accepted, this has been long overdue.
We have as well Theo Walcott who can play upfront.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
To be honest , none of our previous strikers had a good record before they signed for Arsenal bar Ian Wright who was quite prolific at Crystal Palace .Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
TH14 scored 20 goals for 105 games at Monaco and 3 goals for 16 games at Juve . He joined us and the rest is history . RVP found the net 16 times for 61 games at Feyenoord . Who wouldn't ike to see a young "RVP" at Arsenal again ? Adebayor 18 goals for 78 games at Monaco.When he came he had a decent return .
I wasn't and I am not impressed by Chamackh , Sanogo or Wellbeck .
Giroud was scoring loads of goals in France when he was played as a proper centre forward . The theam was creating chances for him to put them away . But at Arsenal he is doing 3 people's job : he is a striker . He has to track back and bring our soft midfield into play . But his statistics are not too bad but not impressive as we need a predator .
But we paid small fees for Henry, RVP and Ade. Henry and RVP weren't even strikers when they arrived. The fee they're taking about us paying for Morata is pretty hefty and we could probably buy some with a better goal records and more experience for that money. Is he that special to command such a fee?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
But putting that to one side, we had a stellar record when it came to finding strikers but that isn't the case any more. It's why I mention the last round of strikers we've bought. You mention Giroud's record and role and doing three jobs but how do we know Morata isn't coming in to do the same role? He looks a similar build to Giroud and I worry he'll get bogged down in the same problems yet his goal records is worse than Giroud's.
Regardless of what happens, I welcome the change up front. But I was hoping for a different type or striker up front.
I fully understand your scepticism . I also want to see a new face upfront . I wouldn't mind Morata at all . But my personal choice would be between Mauro Icardi or Vincent Janssen even though the latter is younger and might be inexperienced But he is a very good finisher . I rate Aubameyang but sometimes he looks unconvincing in some games .Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Why don't we just go for Jamie Vardy?
£20m release clause (that he wanted inserted in the most recent contract that he signed)
We can get 2-3 seasons out of him still.
He's a racist shit.
Can we keep the transfer speculation to the transfer speculation thread though?
Xhaka sounds goods, striker is a must one, a decent one, none of the rubbish we usually sign.
No thanks to Morata, he's sh*t in front of goal, the Spanish Walcott, overhyped, overrated and overpriced, it would be a travesty if we signed this dud.
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Originally Posted by Özim