It's a corporation. So they must have meetings. The whole point of corporate meetings is to clarify nothing at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It's a corporation. So they must have meetings. The whole point of corporate meetings is to clarify nothing at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
That's all he needs to do. Just call it quits sooner rather than later. It's obvious he's out of answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Apparently Coq didn't make a single tackle tonight.
Pound shop Kante someone said? Car boot sale at best.
Heard this before....Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I've heard this before as well, a couple wins and he'll be back to his normal self, he'll put his behind him quickly, he's a master at forgetting what happened before, a few wins and all will be forgotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
He's been found out big time this season. I can't understand why Wenger persists with out of form players like Coq and Iwobi. He really doesn't help himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Nah, he made 2/2 tackles according to StatZone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
But Ozil 5/6. Our top tackler. ;) App must be broken!
How the heck Welbeck and Elneny didn't start is beyond me. Coquelin has regressed. He completed 6 passes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
Didn't he struggle to get into Charltons first 11? What does that tell you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
No actually saw him make more tackles than anyone else, even ran back into the defensive half to do itQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
That's not praising him, Coq did his usual being bounced off by more physically imposing players. Vidal swiped him away like a bead of sweat on his forehead.
If only we'd done something logical and gone after Vidal as someone suggested when we had the chance eh.
Instead we have to put up with Coquelin and players like Xhaka (clearly a player not up to the task) whom we paid a small fortune for.
I think tonights result really reflects how good our team is, I think people who think this squad is anywhere near good enough need to think again, we need a change in management and mentality but we also need a number of better players.
Welbeck is being eased back in so he can play in the big one against Sutton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He should be looking for the exit sharpish too. If he can't get a kick tonight then Wenger doesn't consider him a key player. Perez too must be kicking himself. Probably why he got injured.
Just seen there first goal, why does Coq show Robben on to his left. Is he really that stupid.
We've had Gibbs playing for years, the guy is absolute rubbish, can't defend for toffee and is always injured absolute waste of tiem.
We've done the worst possible thing, we've bought second tier players expensively. That was worse than buying nobody at all. We should have been adding one genuine top class player each year for the past few seasons, which we could have done without breaking the bank. That would have helped keep players here too as they watched the quality develop. But Wenger knows better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the players had no clue Robben favoured his left. Seems to me that's not the sort of picky detail the management wastes time on. We've already heard how Alexis has to coach himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
Love Troopz. He always reminds you to get a bit of perspective in case you wind up like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Totally agree, time and time again it's the same,...we just will not sign top quality players, Wenger wants pet projects he can turn into world beaters and time and time again he fails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The amount of money we wasted in the summer is a real shocker, the guy either doesn't spends or spends on all the wrong players.
If you tolerate this than you're children will be next famQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Long time since I heard the word bloodclart used
Obviously I need to hang around with Yardies more
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Originally Posted by Gooner23
Your average Pro Evo and Fifa player know not to show Robben on to his left foot. ;) We have some idiotic players and berk of a manager.
Manic Street Preachers :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Has anyone got a link to Wengers post match interview? Only one I have found is the Sky Sports one which "isnt available in my country" (fuckers).
*Edit. Found one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4XJpoYSxQQQuote:
Originally Posted by Thierrymon
try that
https://youtu.be/C4R_twTMoqk
Jesus christ. Stop already.
He looks and sounds pretty beaten up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
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Originally Posted by Munchies
"The third goal was the killer" bullshit we hear every time we get hammered. The players should never just collapse like they did, no excuses. They should always have the belief that they can get back into the game. That is what separates us from the better teams around us.
He's the one who has chosen to keep walking into fast moving traffic. It's on him to realise that the club is bigger than his personal ambitions and he lost sight of that fact a long time ago. He's facing the facts the fans have known for a long time now - at least I hope he's facing them. The absolute low point was the 6-0 drubbing on his thousandth game against a bitter rival. In isolation okay he could maybe brush that off, but it was the opposite, it was a crushing confirmation based on a stream of similar calamities that he was finished. He chose not to accept it and now he's ended up here, pulling the whole club down to joke status yet again. Can we really be sympathetic for somebody who has brought this on himself and on the club as a whole? Yes, there's the stadium, the trophies of the past, a whole stack of good times. But that's not how football works and because football is a cut-throat, results based business the rewards are huge. Obscene in fact. And he's enjoyed the rewards whist taking advantage of a unique position in which he's made himself answerable to only himself and has therefore evaded the consequences of repeated failure. He's had his cake and eaten it. This resulting pressure goes with the territory and if I'm honest I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for him. I have a very hard time feeling sympathetic for people who beg for predictable misfortune and then inevitably get it, especially when they drag thousands of other people into their mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I've lost count of the amont of thrashings we've got in the last 10 years, most big clubs suffer big defeats once in a blue moon, we seem to have to endure them quite a lot, just embarassing.
Before Wenger came along the only big defeat I can remember was a 6-2 defeat to Man U in the league cup.
That's one possible design for life I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Damn, I wish I had a bottle, right here in my dirty face.
Totally agree, should have hung up his hat years ago, as you say his 1000th match told you all you need to know. Unfortunately he's not one to take note or to learn, I don't feel any sympathy for the guy, he's been happy enough to point the finger at the fans when he's the one he should be looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Like you say he's brought it on himself, he's had the warnings many times before and he had to do was take notice and either retire or change, unfortunately he decided to the the same thing over and over and over and over again, because as we knw he thinks he's always right.
We got done 5-0 by Boro IIRC. Midweek game I think. Remember listening to it on the radio and thinking, damn, you rotten cunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
[ Looked that one up and there it is, long time ago: http://www.worldfootball.net/report/...fc-arsenal-fc/ ]
People can say what they like about Wenger but he can only be regarded as a complete failure in Europe, perhaps even the biggest failure, so many opportunities to win and has failed to do so, he's been badly exposed in Europe, I think that has to impact on how great a manager he will be considered, failing to win a European trophy is a big black mark on his cv (to go alongside the 12 or so years of relative failure).
You really had to search hard for that :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
In the last decade the list is however rather long.
Beautiful just beautiful
No more chat an stop fucking analysing the game, he needs to go end off. Sutton do us a favour and kill him off! Wenger Out!!!!!!
Yeah I feel sorry for him, he looks visibly upset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Couldn't agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
The one positive (if you can call it that) was the performance of Ospina. He kept the score respectable and was unlucky with the 4th goal.
Since the season is done and dusted now he should be given a run in the starting eleven and build his confidence.
It's nights like last night that demonstrate why we need to finish outside the top 4.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.t...nightmare/amp/
Unsurprising. :lol: