West Brom 3-1 Arsenal - Mismatch Reaction

Ok, I think that's fair.
They clearly must be competitive people, you don't get to this level if you're not.
But I do agree that these kids earning £100k a week before they've achieved anything, it can't help to keep them motivated.

Honestly don't think losing Ozil and Alexis would be as big a deal as people are making out. We have lost some really good players over the last time 10-15 years and still stayed at the same level more or less (2nd,3rd or 4th). Ozil has been very good about a fifth of his time here and will not be missed as a result. Alexis is a world class forward and will be hard to replace but I don't think we'll suddenly become mid table when he's gone. I remember when we lost Henry and everyone lost their shit when we didn't replace him but the following season we went really close and competed for most of the season.

Getting a proper manager/coach would be a huge step forward and the rest will take care of itself.

We'd be losing, Sanchez, Ozil and to some extent Santi all at the same time.... which would cripple us. If we replace them all....that is another thing.....

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

We'd be losing, Sanchez, Ozil and to some extent Santi all at the same time.... which would cripple us. If we replace them all....that is another thing.....

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

Honestly don't think losing Ozil and Alexis would be as big a deal as people are making out. We have lost some really good players over the last time 10-15 years and still stayed at the same level more or less (2nd,3rd or 4th). Ozil has been very good about a fifth of his time here and will not be missed as a result. Alexis is a world class forward and will be hard to replace but I don't think we'll suddenly become mid table when he's gone. I remember when we lost Henry and everyone lost their shit when we didn't replace him but the following season we went really close and competed for most of the season.

Getting a proper manager/coach would be a huge step forward and the rest will take care of itself.

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That’s the key to everything. But if Wenger stays and we lose Ozil and Sanchez, I can’t see us getting back into Europe so easily. We’re in 6th place now and level on points with Ozil and Sanchez in the team. We can replace both players but I highly doubt Wenger will sign star players again considering how things have tunred out. I suspect that’s why he blew over £90m on nobodies this season.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I said a while back we need 6 or 7 quality signings to repair the team. Now it's 8 or 9 if Alexis and Ozil are going. 10 if Bellerin goes. The whole 11 if Kos twigs he's getting nothing here. Everyone else thought 1 or 2, but it has been a long time and a catalogue of neglect since we only needed a couple of players to complete a competitive team.

Cashley Ahole is laughing at us in the papers today, I see. He's where the rot started. Selling him to a rival and never properly replacing him. It has been a long process of rotting ever since, with a few decorated bandages and plenty of inferior tape slapped on in haphazard fashion throughout. The players who stayed have all degraded. Players like Walcott have wasted entire careers here. Wilshere. Ramsey. Rotted through with the Wenger Way. Complacency, arrogance, caviar technicians without the toast. Yellow underbellies. Consistently missing when there's a fight. Big shots on twatter, no shots on the pitch. That's what kids will do when they don't have a firm and guiding hand. Especially kids with millions of quid in the bank, living the London scene, talked about in the papers, chased by leggy gold-diggers. Wenger is often referred to as a father figure. Maybe so, but a poor father for sure. He never taught his kids how to cope with the real world, which is why so many of them have stuck around in the cosseted fantasy environment of Wenger's Arsenal I suppose.

It's possible these players can be resuscitated. It would take a great man manager to do it. The exact kind our board is never likely to bring in. So consider those players gone.

Ozil we brought in to compensate, not as a prelude to a long term transformation. Unfortunately he's taken to the Arsenal lifestyle so comprehensively he can't be bothered to turn up any more. We brought in Alexis because Barca didn't want him. No way would Wenger have chased him had he been on the open market and subject to the usual competition from the usual suspects. Because we never win in the transfer market, we pick up what's left. Despite the fact we had 90 mill to spend in the summer. Can't compete? More like won't compete. Sounds like Alexis can't be doing with slackers and has let his feelings be known. And the slackers haven't taken to kindly to it and have run off to dad to tell on him.

Yeah, I'd say it's a mess alright. There are obvious quick fixes we could apply, like bringing in a manager who knows how to manage. But that would only take us so far. Eventually those players would be on their own on the pitch and would be called upon to fight. And that's where it would all fall down again.

There's a huge job to do at this club.

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made me :lol:

on a serious note this is a top post. :gp:

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

That’s the key to everything. But if Wenger stays and we lose Ozil and Sanchez, I can’t see us getting back into Europe so easily. We’re in 6th place now and level on points with Ozil and Sanchez in the team. We can replace both players but I highly doubt Wenger will sign star players again considering how things have tunred out. I suspect that’s why he blew over £90m on nobodies this season.

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Agreed, the sad thing is it has gotten to stage where even if Wenger did replace them properly we are not even guaranteed to stabilise or improve.

I absolutely do not trust him anymore.