Iwobi is nothing special, the fact some are seeing him as one of the great new hope just shows how average the team is really, in any other decent team he wouldn't get a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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Iwobi is nothing special, the fact some are seeing him as one of the great new hope just shows how average the team is really, in any other decent team he wouldn't get a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I want to know why Lacazette isn't getting 90 minutes, he needs every minute he can get to start filling his boots. It won't be long before the spotlight is on him considering how all the top strikers in the league are scoring freely.
I reckon Wenger isn't his biggest fan, took years for him to sign him, just not convinced Wenger really wanted him, he probably felt he had to bring someone in and he seemed like the only realistic reasonably high profile option (as Madrid couldn't sign him).
Wenger has never liked out and out finishers like him, he wants strikers to does about a million things, being a good finisher is not really a necessity. There's no other reason why you would keep taking a player who could get you a goal at any time off, these kind of players can do nothing for 89 minutes and then win you a game in a second.
Wenger knows better than everyone else. He knows that players new to the league can't play a full 90 minutes. They need time to acclimatise. It's especially important to sub them if they have scored 2 and might get a hattrick. Getting a hattrick in a new league would be disastrous and would probably kill the player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
This is all special science that only Wenger knows. Other managers don't have a clue. They spend big and then play their signings for whole games at a time. It's madness really but I suppose these crazy anti-scientific managers console themselves with the goals and their hollow victories.
Doubt he'd be here if the Iron Overlord didn't want him. Maybe he's giving him a bit of time up top before he converts him to a central defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Wenger knows.
Don't forget this is Wenger we're talking about, the guy who signed Perez, Vela etc only to never really play them. Logic doesn't come into this mans thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Oh the irony :lol:
There's no irony here :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It's like rain on your wedding day :sulk:
No, it's another one of his valuable contributions designed to wind people up rather than progress a discussion. Ignore him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
We've yet to see a starting line up. With Ozil, Sanchez and Lacazette starting together. It's ridiculous. Someone really needs to take Wenger to task over these decisions. £40m on a striker that would have suited the system we played last year to then change the system and personnel so our new striker isn't getting the sort of service expected. It's beyond a joke now. What sort of role to he envision for Lacazette when he signed him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He's probably preparing for life without Ozil and Sanchez by seeing what works without them. Kind of makes a mockery out of keeping them in the summer but then nothing he does makes much sense anymore, ideal situation apparently and not at all affecting the squad having the 2 biggest players uncommitted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Exactly. He should have just sold the pair in the summer and bought new players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
No retrospective action for Richarlison
A green light for cheats, as long as you’re a convincing cheat you can prosper
No surprise there: There was contact and according to the British lexicon, that all enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Iwobi's shot was well saved and no worse than the shot he actually scored from in the game before last when he smashed it. Ozil almost looked like he was trying to pass the ball to the keeper such was the lack of conviction.
Other way around I think. He's shit scared of putting them on the pitch in case it works. Then the obvious questions start flooding in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Why didn't he sign a striker earlier?
Why did he let contracts run down?
What the fuck type of players has be actually been signing?
You spend the money wisely over the 3 seasons since Ozil signed and you could have 5 or 6 top quality players on the pitch. Instead, he signs Ozil one season, Alexis the next, and the zero outfield players. Then he signs 90 mill worth of shite and his two star players walk. This would all be highlighted if we put out our best players. Not saying we'd win anything, but better players gives us a better chance of at least upping our game.
We're still suffering a lack of investment (or at least sane investment) at this club. Draxler has been available. Vidal. Lemar. Mbappe FFS! They have all been getable and Wenger has fucked them off or fucked them up. He has. Nobody else. He's had the funds. They gave him 90 mill to spend on shite and they must have sanctioned that ridiculous 92 mill bid for Lemar. This is all Wenger and he knows it. Kroenke can't be blamed for this one. Nor can Gazidis. Wenger is responsible for the shambles on the pitch.
Iwobi should have buried it. It was a very poor effort. As was Ozil's. But not as bad as Wenger's team selection, or his tactics (for want of a better word), or his crazed substitutions, or his inability to influence anything from the sidelines. He's getting away with another horror show while everyone focuses on a player missing a chance. The fact is, Wenger has zero away wins so far this season and at a club like Arsenal that's totally unacceptable. It's an enduring and growing disgrace he still has a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Why would he do that? It's not what total fuck-ups tend to do, is it? The sensible thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I think the stupid shit believes they will still sign.
Remember that time Pires dived and initiated a new ice age that wiped all life from the planet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I got this from another website. Apparently more of the blame for the winner can be ascribed to another player just watching Cleverly take his shot. More Wengerisation on display?
Just watched MOTD....try watch it if you haven't seen it. Cleverley must be standing, not running, not walking, standing, on the penalty spot for about 10 seconds while Xhaka is standing directly behind him on the edge of the box watching the play.....the ball rolls loose to Cleverley, standing completely unmarked...and BANG, 2-1
Murphy and Wrighty commenting on it saying Xhaka is NOT a holding midfielder and has no sense of danger.
Danny Drinkwater went to Chelsea and cant get a game. He would have improved our midfield and he is bang average.
Xhaka is a sloth. Not a Premier League player at all.
Alonso and Scholes are probably the 2 best players of this kind the league has ever seen and Xhaka isn’t even a fraction as good.
If you watch as the second goal goes in, two fans behind the goal are eating crisps. Everyone knows how distracting that can be when you are trying to concentrate. And, predictably, we concede. Hopefully these greedy, selfish bastards won't be losing us any more games this season.
I feel quite sorry for anyone trying to play football with Wenger calling the shots. I'm sure none of our players (now that Sanogo has gone) are as bad as they appear to be, week in, week out. Can't pass, can't shoot, can't cross, too afraid to head a ball... this all comes from hours of work on the training ground ruled over by our resident Clouseau.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Its pretty obvious to me that the great team we had 98-2004 must had been great because the players were deliberately ignoring him. Henry Vieira, Keown, Freddie, Pires Campbell and co. They must have been laughing at him and doing the exact opposite.
Poor Arsene, he must have been stewing inside. This must be his revenge, doing it his way......of course now stubbornly refusing to change. Because a man cannot have lucked on a formula that worked and then deliberately decided to change it to one that doesn't work. It probably means the original formula wasn't his creation at all.
Montezumas revenge has nothing on Wengers ire.
No wonder he sold them all in the space of 2 years.
I thought Ozil's chance was easily worse than Iwobi's and the 2 players aren't supposed to be in the same class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The focus has been pretty well spread between our missed chances, the ineptitude of the ref, a brilliantly executed dive that low and fuhking behold the diving panel have dismissed and Wenger's continued failure as a manager.
Even if 100% of the focus was on Wenger we all know he's here for two more painful years now.
I've kind of just lost any real hope for Xhaka already despite his manager's lack of personal instruction or coercion. It's not a one off anymore. He can literally do one thing well and that's when he feels like it and is on his game. Horrific waste of more money.
Unless the fans begin and maintain a relentless campaign to get him out. If, no matter what's happening, even if we are winning 6-0, all that can be heard is Wenger Out, surely the bloke would leave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Although, no, he probably wouldn't.
Wenger always respects his contracts...as he likes to say. The 2 places he left in a hurry, he was sacked. He did not resign. Even if we are relegated, he will feel duty bound to gain us promotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Who do you have any hope for in this team? Wenger has killed them all. Not one of them can string a consistent set of appearances together. Not always individual's faults, you could say Monreal has been consistent, maybe Kolasinac too. But they are still part of an inept defence. Lacazette is already well on the way to being ruined. A prolific goalscorer who cost 50 mill and can't even get a pass, let alone a full 90 minutes. Soon he'll give up running and save his energy for his next team. Theo Walcott - what's the point. The Messiah Jack, we all know what disappointment awaits once he is unleashed. Kos, Mustafi, Cech, Ramsey, any of them, none of them you'd back to have a consistent season. The whole set up is a shambles. It's unbelievable really. And equivalent would be some daft, clueless bint being put in charge of the country, which would never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
As you well know.....he honours his contracts. He certainly won't break it after Kroenke personally sanctioned him signing on amidst the increasing opposition voices.
I've actually enjoyed watching Monreal, Kolas, Jack, Laca and even Ramsey (I missed a lot of his worst patches) this season though. Xhaka has just been a continuous car crash. At 35 million he should be able to do one isolated thing well with a modicum of regularity without having it dictated by his manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He honours his contracts in the same way a tapeworm honours the intestine.
Wenger called Xhaka a box to box midfielder last season even though Xhaka established his growing reputation over in the Bundesliga playing like an up and coming "Xabi Alonso". I don't really rate Xhaka but Wenger stating this tells me all we need to know about what he sees in him as a player, he doesn't have a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
We have never needed Xhaka, he's not what this team needs now and is not what the team needed when we bought him.
Wenger seems to go out of his way to be different, I don't know whether it's deliberate or whether he thinks he's smarter than everyone else but he appears to do it time and time again. I don't understand why we didn't buy Kante when he was begging to join us, it was a no-brainer.
Also, the one thing he can do well, he needs time and space to do it well. When under pressure he'll play a wayward reckless pass. When the YouTube clips of him spraying the ball around we're in circulation, you were right to point out that he was making those passes with zero pressure and acres of space.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
He really is a one dimensional player and should be a sub to come on for specific conditions.
Deeney was absolutely right.
Agreed, it's just plain weird to be honest, Xhaka was never a player we need, never mind a 35 million pound midfielder, he's at best average, he adds absolutely nothing to the team, even his forte his passing is nothing special, Wenger has condeded the guy can't tackle so why he was bough to play DM is beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
He's not smart, not smart at all, absolutely clueless perhaps but not smart, a smart man would simply not make the ridiculous decisions he does.
I'm going to throw Ozil into that category as well. The introduction of both Xhaka and Ozil has created more problems than actually solving. The tall has been on how best to get more from them and forget about what the team actually needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Buying a CM that can't tackle or dictate our flow of passes from the midfield was a mistake. Buying an attacking midfielder who has done little to increase the potency of our attack was also a mistake. We needed a tough tackling DM and striker that can score 30 a season. Now we're having to find ways to bed in players that we didn't need in the first place and don't compliment the other players around them.
Wenger was chasing Xhaka for a couple of years at least, as the natural replacement for Arteta. I liked Arteta, thought he was an honest pro who always gave his best for the club. But, unfortunately for him, Wenger found in him the ideal man to perform the duty Wenger values above all else - keeping possession. If Wenger could introduce a rule where his players could hide the ball for the whole 90 minutes and then claim 100% possession he'd do it in a heartbeat. His absolute obsession with pointless possession is what has killed our game and sucked every drop of entertainment from it. And Xhaka was supposed to be the guy who could step in and keep the sideways circus running. But it turns out Xhaka's hasn't got a fraction of Arteta's composure under pressure. So we've ended up with a guy who can do the sideway routine all day long, provided the opposition allow it. And most do. They must find it hilarious to watch us fucking around, sideways, sideways, backwards, instead of getting it up to out new 50 million quid striker (when he's on the pitch).
Xhaka is doing what that incompetent old fart wants him to do. Keep the ball. Doesn't matter the fuck what you do with it, but keep it. That way the opposition can't have it and that way they can't punish our ridiculous defence that Wenger refuses to coach properly and refuses to allow anyone else to coach properly. This is why Santi is Wenger's biggest loss. Cazorla can not only do all the fucking idiotic stuff Wenger demands, but he's two footed, super composed, ultra technical and can still create chances even from Wenger's joy sapping tactics.
Everything would change overnight if the old cunt just fucked off. I bet you every player (apart from Theo) would improve.
That summer we made a big mistake going for a xhaka instead of a kante.