But AT LEAST you pick your best 11. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
At least that.
Bog basic standard bare minimum.
Something that Wenger can't achieve any more.
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But AT LEAST you pick your best 11. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
At least that.
Bog basic standard bare minimum.
Something that Wenger can't achieve any more.
Just bizarre
Coquelin starting I just get, but Iwobi over Lacazette ?
Don't forget, Mr Red Zone started Coquelin mid week. So even his bullshit red zone bullshit cocksucking cunt bullshit fuckwit bullshit cunt thing doesn't add up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Wenger out! Letters out! Bring back Ashburton 2006 for Moderator!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
And bring back Cripps!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
Oh, that's already happened... :coffee:
:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Can we take from this that Vieira = Cripps/Ach then? :tiphat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Maybe it's finally time to reveal who I really am now as well. :ninja:
Flavs:bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
He's back :bow:
Come on. You're better than that. Just.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Is that NQ or shearer on MOTD? :lol:
£50m signing on the bench. He's getting ripped.
No. Come on. This is our better than average manager in charge of our above average squad. Tell me why Le Genius is sticking his 50 mill striker on the bench for the biggest games. Must be a reason that's not directly related to sheer incompetence or impaired mental faculties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Cripps please. I'm not some bald headed Northern thug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
I was the guy who used to constantly own you in debates. :cold:
Adebayor :haha::haha:
First Herbert now you
Why do I always seem to attract the muppets:rolleyes:
The thing that really bugged me from today’s game was the simplicity of City’s play. They’d win the ball back and only need a simple one-two and they’d have us on the ropes. I just cannot believe how laboured we were in comparison, why weren’t we trying to stretch their defence in the same way with some quick passing and runners? We’re pure pub these days. It’s really hard to watch us construct passages of play knowing full well it’s not going anywhere.
I don’t see any chemistry in this squad at all. Which probably shouldn’t come as a surprise given our 2 best players are unmotivated.
Also, Mourinho gets stick for parking the bus (rightly so) but Wenger is just as bad, if not worse. The only reason it doesn’t get picked up on is because we’re not good enough to get results that way like Mourinho’s teams often are.
Every game against top opposition the set up is to somehow nullify the other team, without much thought given as to how we’re actually going to attack effectively.
Maybe it’s your natural charmQuote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
I actually had no idea who you were, no wonder you keep whinging like a little girl about being banned :haha:
MO, so you have seen it too. Fast breaks?. Nobody knows how to flunk fast breaks like we do. If we ever manage to break out ahead of the oppo defence. Our players will get to the byline. wait for the defence to get back and start the tippy tappy infont of 8 defenders again, until one pass goes wayward and the other team breaks. We will get overrrun and the other team scores with 5 of our players still in the other half of the pitch. Madness I know, but its our particular madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
City are so good because it only takes maybe 4 passes to see the ball hit at the keeper. With us more like 20.
Yes Wenger is as bad as Mourinho, because his confidence is shot to pieces. He prefers to play defensive against the top teams because he wants to avoid humiliations. A draw is ticked off as a win for his ego as he was not beaten. Where once he had a formula that delivered the beatings now he now plans squarely on accumulating enough points in the league to remain respectable. He can now confidently predict that next season we will challenge for the title....with him still in charge of course.
Saw this comment:
Don't know if it's true. But it adds a third possibility to the sabotage/ mental breakdown list of reasons. I've seen Lacazette's fee expressed as anything from £44mill through £52mill. So I guess there could be £8mill potential profit to add to the last transfer window up for grabs if Wenger can do what he does best, fuck the players and the fans over for personal gain for himself and his leech of a boss.Quote:
It's a contractual thing, if he plays 90 mins x times Arsenal has to pay add-ons to Lyon and increase his salary. Same happened with Podolski who was always subbed right before the 70th minute. No surprises here, Wenger wants to make profit which is in this case incompatible with the sporting goals of a proper club.
Two top PL strikers weigh in with their views, Shearer and Wrighty:
Nobody in football has a clue what Wengersaurus is doing. That would be fine if we were making progress. We aren't, we're going backwards. So it should be a massive alarm bell for the club and the owners, under normal circumstances. But not at this club. It will all just roll on without a mention.Quote:
'He's scored six league goals, double anyone else in that Arsenal team. Not only that, he's actually played Sanchez, a guy who doesn't want to commit himself to the football club, whereas he's signed for £50m.
'What does that say not only to him, but to the rest of his team-mates? He's got every right to go and knock on the manager's door in the morning and say: "Do you not fancy me or something? Do you not want to play me?".'
Adding to Shearer's point, Ian Wright believes Lacazette will be frustrated with the way he is being treated in the early days of his Arsenal and will wonder exactly how he can earn Wenger's trust.
Wright said: 'He must be thinking what he has to do to get in this team, especially when he's watching how poorly Sanchez is playing. It must be so frustrating for him.'
It's November and we are out of the title race already. We weren't really in it, but we've gone from pretence and a lukewarm challenge that collapses at the final stretch, to never looking like we are getting within a mile. It's a steady backwards march, led by the guy who keeps getting rewarded for failure.
Tyranowenger's post farce comments:
Quite right. This shit happens every year and it's entirely unacceptable.Quote:
'I believe it was no penalty. We know that Raheem Sterling dives well, he does that very well.'
'Can anyone stop them? It will be difficult this season, the way they have started the quality they have, but you never know. If, on top of that, they have decisions at home like that, they will be unstoppable.
'Overall, once again, the referee made the decision with a penalty and an offside goal. We are used to it when we come here. I feel they don't work enough, because it happens every season. It is unacceptable.
'You have seen what I have seen. The fact you tell me it is an offside goal says enough. I don't want to take anything away from the quality, but it happened at a moment when we were really in the game at 2-1 and it killed the game.
'It is the second year. We got two offside goals here last year and one this year. We put a lot of effort in and at 2-1 I thought we could come back. The 3-1 was an immense relief for them, an unexpected present. Of course, they are a top team, but that makes it even more difficult for you.'
'Just wrong.'
And the gypo diving happens too, but Sterling didn't dive to get our 50 mill top scorer benched. Nor did he dive to select our holding midfielder as a CB when we had our club captain and at least one other legitimate defender who didn't even make the squad.
So Wenger got his bullshit in long before Sterling or the ref. And it was the combination of all these things, as well as many other unique Wenger contributions over the years, that culminated in yet another loss against a so-called rival.
What's Wenger's record against the top teams now?
What's his record in Europe?
Fraud.
Not bragging, but this is all so laughably predictable now really, what's the point?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
If you're going to keep hitting yourself over the head then there's no point complaining you have a headache :shrug:
Now it makes sense, profit over football as ever by Wenger, that's all he cares about, wouldn't surprise me if this story is spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
To think that people were scared to get rid of this guy in case things got worse, can't really get much worse overall, there's no enjoyment to be had anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Like I said before, I saw thr lineup and if I wasn't sure we'd lose before that, I certainly was after seeing it. It was an absurd team selection, IMO that selection deserved one thing, a beating (which they got), it was never ever going to get a result.
Wenger got exactly what he deserved IMO, at the end of the day City are miles ahead of us quality wise, 12 points behind already, 4 defeats already, it gets worse every season, as I said we're a pretty dire team at the moment.
Decision or no decisions, we lost basically because we're rubbish, when we were good we had decisions going against us as well, difference is most of the time we overcame them and won, you can take matters into your own hands or just let things happen, we just let things happen and don't have the fight or desire to overcome them, bunch of losers to be honest.
Xhaka is absolutely hopeless he really is, what a waste of 35 million, yet Wenger keeps playing the guy, he could at least try something different, tough times ahead.
In fairness, I don’t think that was in anyway what fans were thinking when he bypassed the board to get himself a new contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
This is an opinion you can maybe attribute to a sizeable portion of the fan base five or six years ago. It was largely the media who came out with the be careful what you wish for bullshit more recently
The problem is we didn’t have a lineup we could have put out that we couldn’t expect to get beaten withQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
You have to go back over a decade to encounter a midfield as poor as this one. Even then we were over relying on one player....now we don’t even have that
Xhaka was almost comically bad yesterday. He's a shadow of the player he was when he signed. Totally unsuited to this league. Somehow he's getting slower each week. What the hell goes on in training I can't guess at. But Xhaka's another player who needs to get away from Wenger fast if he wants to save his career. Sooner the better because his market value will be going down the shitter, fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Clearly thought he was signing an Arteta without paying attention to the kind of player he isQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He will never make it in the premier league he’s far too slow
I agree to some extent, but football is a funny sport, the superior team doesn't always win and you have to give yourself the best chance of winning, selecting Coquelin, Xhaka, playing Monreal as a CB and not selecting Lacazette was a shockingly bad decision IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I agree that City are far better though, but I would always have picked Lacazette as he can always pop up with a goal, he's a goalscorer, just a really odd decision (unless the contract thing NQ mentioned is indeed true).
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41878157
He should apologise, Sterling doesn’t dive “well”
He just does it frequently
The trouble is Letters, you come across as a bit disingenuous. You’re never as dismissive after a decent result. Worse still, you often use decent results as a way of picking a fight or poking fun at the negative comments that will still be there because if anything, GW is generally consistent with it’s opinion but you don’t seem to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He barely ever has a good game, totally agree he'll never make it in the league, he just doesn't have the attributes, just don't understand what would possess Wenger to buy him in the 1st place, for 35 million on top of that. Seems to be another one of his golden boys that can't be dropped as well, however poor he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Playing Monreal as a centre back is suicidal thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
If he was going to play someone in the position he played Coquelin it should have been Elneny
There’s absolutely no explanation rationally for not starting Lacazette
Quite like the bit about questioning a footballer's integrity :lol:
Yes, footballers these days are all famously upstanding pillars of society. :rolleyes:
That would make complete sense from the loony wannabe CEO :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wouldn't also surprise me if he was somehow a shareholder, as rumours suggest. Would all tie in together. This man has become completely embroiled in money making, it's crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/upl...T-Clapping.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Someone give this man a medal
Wenger has completely lost his way and his out of touch with modern/progressive football. Not only that but he doesn't even have the trust of his team so before a ball is kicked this team is mentality beaten in the big games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We are clearly a level below Man City, and are inferior to teams such as Spurs, Man United and to a lesser extent Chelsea. The sad thing is we wouldn't need that much of a change to compete for top 4 again but things are not going to improve until Wenger is gone, if anything we will continue to go backwards.
I'm pretty consistent in picking people up on what I see as massive over-statements of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Long gone are the days when I would accuse people of over-reacting to bad results though.
Except very little he’s done as manager in the past few years would have much of a positive impact on share values, so if he is a Share holder he has very little interest in making a nest egg from his investmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Fan unrest will make sponsors uneasy when it comes to negotiating deals, not to mention the bungling over player contracts
Just imagine if we lose in a fortnight to Spurs, you will have pandemonium in the stadium (Emirates won’t like that)