Lost 3 out of 4 games but still only a point off 2nd. :lol:
They will fluke their way through somehow.
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Lost 3 out of 4 games but still only a point off 2nd. :lol:
They will fluke their way through somehow.
https://x.com/stokeyyg2/status/17223...k_DvSqUkaQFrjw
Just as well he’s Korean and not Japanese
https://allthatsinteresting.com/word...ai-suicide.jpg
PSG 0-1 Newcastle, Isak.
A few minutes ago that but still :lol:
Milan 1-1 Dortmund. :popcorn:
Citeh 0-2 RB Leipzig, Openda with both. :lol:
1-3 Dortmund now.
Mbappe shot saved, then misses the follow up!
VAR check for a PSG pelanty. Can't be giving that.
Been given though.
1-1 Mbappe!
That was a woeful decision.
On the flip side it’s probably knocked the Barcodes out so oh well. :coffee:
Obviously :pal:
But VAR really is fucking up a game which was already pretty fucked to begin with.
DunnoQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Newcastle have to beat Milan at home, but If they do that then PSG have to win in Dortmund otherwise Newcastle advance because of the head to head between them. It’s not in their hands but I wouldn’t go as far as to say they are probably out
It doesn’t matter either way. They have as much chance of winning the thing as us.
(That’s zero, for clarity)
It's so glaring how bad it is compared to rugby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I dunno if it's just that rugby's had more time to iron out the creases and that it was just as bad when it came in, or if there's something about refereeing culture in rugby that makes a difference, but it just can't be ignored how well it works in one sport and how badly it's being fucked up in another.
you obvs missed the RWC final where NZ were totally robbed by Wayne Barnes and his TMO matesQuote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
You're quite right, I did miss that :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
I just had a look, I'm guessing you're referring to the red card? It looks like one to me, but I'm no rugby expert tbf.
One thing I think could improve VAR would be the ref being allowed to request another look, rather than being advised to have one.
Just for them to be honest and say, "not sure about that one, I'll have to look at it again" rather than immediately committing to a decision that then needs to be overturned it it's wrong.
They'd still have the option of making a decision that needs overturning, but it would stop this whole nonsense of the refs not making a decision and leaving it to VAR, who then decide there's not enough evidence to overturn the onfield decision when in reality, there was no onfield decision.
There is something different about football - the flow of it and the culture/attitude towards referees. It does make it harder to get right.
But they're just getting basic things wrong and failing to use common sense. As Mac said in the match thread, some of it is the laws being bollox.
Just use a bit of common sense - handball surely has to be something deliberate. That's still a judgement call, but right now defenders basically have to have their arms amputated to avoid giving away penalties. It's nonsense. And with offside - if you're having to draw lines and looking at whether a single pixel is offside then just let it go. Right now the spectre of offside is hanging over far too many goals. It's spoiling the match day experience. If the ref/lino makes a glaring mistake then fine, deal with that. For marginal calls just let it go.
They're trying to get everything right when that's inherently impossible.
Yeah the new handball rule for defenders is bollocks IMO, but as far as I know, last night's penalty shouldn't even be given based on that. My understanding is that if the ball bounces off your body onto the arm, then that isn't handball. But still, it was given. That's pure incompetence (or something more sinister) if I'm right.
And I fully agree about the spectre hanging over goals ruining the matchday experience, but offside is a difficult one. We can't have goals like Auba's at Old Trafford being ruled out by an errant flag, and we also can't be waiting 6 minutes for a decision like Burnley and Bournemouth were.
The answer lies somewhere in the middle and no solution will please everyone. The AI used at the World Cup seems like a decent compromise but the PL rejected it for some reason.
it was more that there was an incident by a Bok player that to me was also a red but they only got a yellow, plus in general we came off quite badly in terms of decisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
thet said if we had a better kicker we'd have scored the two points we needed, we still really miss Dan Carter tbh
Ah, fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
If that's the case then yeah that's bad, but I do wonder how many apologies the Rugby equivalent of PGMOL is issuing per season. I'd be amazed if it's even a fifth of what's happening in football.
You're always going to get bad decisions, no matter how much technology is involved. The question is, what's the best way to mimimise them? Rugby seems to minimise errors well, football doesn't.
Sevilla 1-0 PSV, Ramos.
We're going through currently.
Also Galatasaray 1-2 Man Utd, Garnacho, Fernandes and Ziyech.
McTominay extended United’s lead but Ziyech has scored again to make it 3-2
Sevilla are 2-0 up against PSV which to all intents and purposes confirms us in the last 16
Man Utd. :haha:
3-3 now
PSV get a goal back against ten man Sevilla
United involved in yet another mental CL game. :lol:
Onana has had a shocker.
PSV equalise
This game is mental
3-3 FT. :lol:
PSV win. Which I think means Sevilla are fucked
Man Utd: Onana, Dalot, Varane, Maguire, Shaw, Amrabat, McTominay, Antony, Fernandes, Garnacho, Hojlund.
Subs: Bandit, Heaton, Evans, Reguilon, Wan-Bissaka, Gore, Hannibal, Mainoo, Pellistri, Hugill.
Bayern Munich: Neuer, Mazrouai, Upamecano, Kim, Davies, Kimmich, Goretzka, Coman, Musiala, Sane, Kane.
Subs: Peretz, Choupo-Moting, Guerreiro, Muller, Laimer, Tel, Kratzig, Pavlovic.
Man Utd need to win and hope the other game is a draw.
If it isn't and Man Utd win, they're in the Europa League. :lol:
Neuer is only 37. :wacko:
Scummy from Garnacho.
Sane. :haha:
Injured cock for Maguire.
0-1 Coman!
Copenhagen through in second!
0-1 FT Bayern win.
Ten Hag got Top 4 at least.
I mean, I get there’s a culture problem at United and all kinds of uncertainty at board level, but 7 league defeats and out of Europe altogether before Christmas is woeful. A better coach would have got more out of them, Ten Hag is a busted flush.
Utd :pal:
Newcastle: Dubravka; Trippier, Lascelles, Schar, Livramento; Miley, Guimaraes, Joelinton; Almiron, Wilson, Gordon.
Subs: Karius, Harrison, Dummett, Isak, Hall, Burn, Longstaff.
AC Milan: Maignan; Calabria, Tomori, Hernandez, Florenzi; Musah, Reijnders, Loftus-Cheek; Pulisic, Giroud, Leao.
Subs: Nava, Mirante, Adli, Jovic, Okafor, Chukwueze, Pobega, Krunic, Traore, Nsiala-Makengo, Bartesaghi.