Eddie a yard off the pace as always
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Eddie a yard off the pace as always
Saka got the ball no problem there
Wow, some common sense.
Eddie might be Theo on ice but at least he looks like he gives a shit. Which is more than can be said for the Odegard bloke. One, two, three sloppy passes, okay, it's 90 minutes. But every other pass? Shows a lack of anything useful in professional sport.
And I know he'll probably score now, but who the hell knows what the purpose of that chav is? What does he do? What is he meant to do?
Raya just giving the ball back to 'pool each time
1-1 FT.
Top at Christmas. :bow:
Terrible quality but we got the draw and stay top of the league :scarf: :lol:
Wasted my holiday time watching that shit. Both those teams should be embarrassed to take the thousands they'll bank. But they have no shame.
Never did enough to look like winning the game but that’s a satisfactory point considering how close we came to losing it with that 4 v 1 counter.
2 seasons in a row without losing at Anfield. :faint:
They tried. many a previous Arsenal team would have choked after the equalizer. Arteta has definitely improved the mentality if not the actual football on display.
Compared to what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
What is this era of football you’re harking back to where the quality was so much better?
Also if you need to take holiday time to watch a game on a Saturday teatime you’re in a shit job
Oh here he is, pretending we never watched players like Bergkamp, Owen, Keane.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Let's play along.
Oh, I don't know. Maybe football ws alwys this shit. Could just be my eyesight that's at fault.
I'm not in a job mate. Why, are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Is Owen really a better player than Salah?
Was Keane a miles better player than Rice
No your eyesight is not at fault, as always it’s your attitude. Like somehow this is a pre-programmed response from you. To keep up with your “everything is shit” vibe
What are you on a holiday from then? Being an embittered alcoholic? Doesn’t sound like itQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
The season of good will to all men :bow:
Work, dude. I do it. Do you? Work is not the same thing as a job. That's probably why your life is meaningless.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
You'll push it, won't you. Even when it gets completely ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
"Men" being the operative. Faggots and faggot apologists - NO. This is a CHRISTIAN celebration, don't forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Other people , chip in. You are on your honour to be honest.
Is Owen a better player than that fat fuck Salad?
And is (no, I'm seriously asking) Rice a better player than Keane?
Okay, I asked very stupid questions. My bad. But answer anyway.
Throw him a fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
I’d sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Salah > Owen but
Keane > Rice
Overall I don’t think there is a gulf in quality between football these days and that of yesteryear. Lots of things about football these days is obviously shitter, but I thought the quality in this game was pretty high.
I did find Owen’s comments on modern footballers interesting though, about how these days the game is so fast that to make it in football these days you have to be more of an athlete these days than technically good at football.
I would agree with that. Owen came up in an era where the best players in the world were all supremely gifted and athleticism wasn’t the be all and end all. Today’s game is more of a spectacle because of how fast it is but I don’t think the level of skill involved is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Salah is a miles better player than Owen it’s not even close, Owen had a good low centre of gravity and pace but he was one dimensional. If you wanted to compare Salah as poor in comparison to Henry or Bergkamp slightly more sympathy thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Rice and Keane - In terms of pace and technique neither are that great, Rice is a slightly better passer but again not great. Both good readers of the game, Keane better tackler but not a lot in it.
I know it’s lovely to cry for the moon and say things are not what they used to be. But I watched enough football then and enough football now to realise that most of it is rose tinted spectacles.
I remember the game against Liverpool the last time we played on December 23rd, when Durkin sent off Van Bronckhorst and despite that we won the game 2-1. The Ljungberg goal was good football but the rest was scrappy and attritional.
If it’s just that you’ve fallen out of love with the game because of the financial doping, banter mentality, social media nonsense and the absolute fuck face of really terrible match officials, arbitrary rule changes etc. well who can blame you
But if you’re arguing there’s been a significant decline in the overall quality of footballers. Sorry I don’t see it
I don’t think it’s that technicality is lacking. Martinelli, Saka, Odegaard are all very good technically but the pace of the game doesn’t always give you the time to show off that technical skillQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Proper men are not whinging and insecure, would just be secure and content with their own lives rather than worry about how sodomites are ruining their Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
But if it helps I’m sorry that your sacred holiday which you largely pinched from people you’d regard as heathens is just as much celebrated by people who at best believe Jesus was apocryphal (I’d go a little further and say if he did exist he was a cunt anyway).
That’s ecumenism for you
It’s like you and the multi coloured haired pronoun solipsists are just as annoying as each other. Both invoke slippery slope thinking, both deeply boring and actually at the core the real thing you’re unhappy about is that everyone else thinks you’re insufferable cunts
Salah is a much, much better player than Owen. And that's not even a knock on Owen, the boring cunt, he was a terrifying player but even he says his peak was 20/21. If that. He wasn't a bad player by any means but he was pretty much done by the time he left us. Salah the freak, barring any injury, will still be going strong at 36 or 37. As a pure finisher, Owen was amongst the best I've ever seen, but he was a striker; Salah is a winger scoring striker numbers of goals and still providing a huge number of chances for that shitkicker Nunez to miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I don't really necessarily agree with Owen either that football has gotten away from being technical to purely physical. Sure, players have to be a hell of a lot fitter and physically able than before, but a huge part of that is down to tactics being so much more based around pressing and team shape as a whole. It's not as if there aren't ludicrously technical players about either. Look at Alexander-Arnold. [Somewhat unfairly] maligned about his general play, the kid is hideously good.
Football is getting demonstrably shitter (could be a coincidence but may be because I'm getting older, my dad said the same about football in the 90s onwards, but then he always was a miserable bastard like me) but I don't subscribe to footballers getting shitter. You can point to Henry or Bergkamp, but they were amongst the best players of their generation but it's not like they weren't playing against some absolute shitkickers at the time as well.
Anyway I've forgotten what I was saying. I'm off to watch the 2001 Cup Final. Which was a pretty boring game. Henchoz :bow:
Someone give you a time machine for Christmas...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss
You may have heard of DVDs and other recording media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Oh, and yeah, there have been cloggers in every generation of footballers. It’s easy to look back with rose tinted glasses and remember the best players, but there’s always been players who are pretty mediocre.
Ok ok, it was just the way said "off to watch"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Anyway i thought it was funny :getcoat:
It was a jab the pope, not you. So calm down a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Okay, that's argued well enough. But I don't agree with any of it. Especially the Salah/ Owen comparison. That's crazy talk. Another thing I don't get is how they can be saying football is faster and more physical these days. Absurd. None of these players would last 2 minutes in a proper match. Hell, the likes of Bruce and Keown had license to boot the opposition off the pitch. Now all you need to do is sneeze in their direction and down they go, screaming. Totally different game. Worse on every level. As a sport, I mean. As a marketing spectacle, well maybe you have a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Odegard is shite btw. I can't be doing with a 33% player.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Again compared to who? If you’re saying Pires or even Ozil yeah I’d say they were both better. But equally he’s better than Ljungberg, better id say than Paul Merson and id put him on the level of Santi CazorlaQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And Keown got his fair share of yellow and red cards. The reason a player like Keown wouldn’t work today is not because of how aggressive he is, but because he’s not quick enough. Saliba is reasonable pacy and Gabriel has pace to burn, you have to have a defender who can play with the ball at his feet today where as back in the day you just needed a hard worker who was happy to collect yellow cards, could man mark and head the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
End of the day, physics comes into play, football is a contact sport but with the pace the game is played at today you are more likely to come off worse