Do you want him after that performance?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Based on what I saw from the 2nd half he's cleary talented, but Jesus vibes were just strengthened.
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Do you want him after that performance?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Based on what I saw from the 2nd half he's cleary talented, but Jesus vibes were just strengthened.
Maybe but we are a team with rock bottom confidence at the moment. Had this been a year ago I think we would have gone on and got another couple.
I like him and as I said the other day he could be a good long term replacement for Trossard as well as JesusQuote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
I think we need to encourage more creativity all over the pitch. Stop playing Rice at 8 has got to be where it starts, it slows down the attack he doesn’t have the natural attacking instincts to pass and receive quickly.
Yeah, I mean we did alright BEFORE they had that serial fouling bastard with 12 get. out of jail cards sent off. After, it was poor, particlarly Martinelli and Havertz who were like headless chickens all match. And Party, what's left to be said about that bloke? Califiori and Tierney did okay though. And Rice kept plugging away which was actually vital on several occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Well, with his talent he could definitely play across the forward line and even a bit deeper, but I'd hate Arteta to sign anyone who isn't the solution to our problems and continue with the same wastefulness when we get in the box.
He reminded me of exactly the type of shite we've bought in the past that will turn into an overpaid journeyman. Didn't see anything about him that would help us.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Rice had a good game and played a very important role in driving the attackers from what I saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Unfortunately that has been quite rare for someone we spent so much money on.
Why'd he leave Jorginho on the bench? You'd think he would have been ideal in terms of keeping the ball when we were a man down and then using it it when all of Oliver's plans blew up.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Somehow we've still only lost twice, despite the frenzied efforts by the totally fair and incorruptible officials since the season kicked off.
Seen elsewhere:
Doubt we could outbid his middle-eastern friends.Quote:
"At this point Arsenal need to break the bank and sign Michael Oliver. He is literally the game changer we need."
We’ve been terrible this season and plagued by injuries. Yet arguably we could be leading the way if not for the ridiculously harsh refereeing
4 points extra against Brighton
1 point extra against Bournemouth
2 points extra against Liverpool
2 points extra against Man City
2 points extra against Villa
Fair, but chop in half because I'm sure we had a few go our way too. Even so, the refs have had a big influence on the way the table looks. What I'd like to see is a comparison of gambling patterns and the table over the last few seasons. Has anyone ever done something like that, given we have stats for everything else these days. And surely it should be something the officials keep a careful eye on anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I didn't see it but even so, judging on one game would be too much anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
At most the only decision I would say has gone our way was the non corner that we had at home to Spurs. If it all balanced out, or if we had anything approaching half the favourable decisions other teams get against us I might cut that in half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I mean even if you cut it half, there's the 6 point gap. And our recent form is similar, our defensive record similar, it's just that bloody obvious elephant stampeding and shitting around the place, the lack of a striker so our goals scored could be similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Not that anyone is going to do a damn thing about these refs, so we need to accept we'll always have to get more points than most other teams just to stay level.
Me :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
He failed this time though, well done the lads :clap:
We HAVE to appeal that and demand that c*** never refs any of our games again
Yes I was underwhelmed tbh, I also think he showed a bit of petulance that Arteta in particular wouldn't get on withQuote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Arsenal vs City on the 2nd Feb - wonder if city's favourite boy will be reffing it? Maybe not now, surely that would be a bit too obvious even for them. Will have to be backup Taylor then I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
The thing that baffles me the most is not the MLS red card (although Oliver should be sacked and the PGMOL disbanded) but the justification for the red card was serious foul play. This was upheld by VAR yet int rh same game, Gomes gets a yellow for what is arguably a worse foul and way above the ankle, which is what they used to justify MLS red card, yet neither Oliver or VAR decide to issue a red. They just make it up
I'll tell you one thing, the crowd will be so up for it, we've all the proof we need that we're not just playing Man City but the whole fucking system, the Emirates is all we've got to fight back with, can't waitQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Well apparently the pgmol have footage of Lewis-Skelly's challenge that proves it was high and late and with AI have also managed to show proof of MLS pulling out a 9mm with intent to kill. <_<
This siege mentality that PGMOL adopt when any of their officials are criticised helps no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
Feels like the media have finally started waking up to it as well. Skysports article on the matter actually acknowledges that we seem to be reffed totally differently from the rest of the league
And he killed JFK, which is about to be revealed when Trump releases the documents.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
Here's a good take on it by a very irritable person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmvX5eQIkCk
Splitting away VAR from their effective bosses is the MINIMUM that should happen. But it won't because somebody, somewhere is making a ton of cash.
Even Jamie O'Hara has questioned why he's still officiating our matches he said "I don't know why he keeps getting Arsenal games. Why do you keep giving him an Arsenal game? He causes too many issues."
The media is stuffed with every coward they could scrape out of the gutter. If they had ever done their jobs in the first place (even to a small degree) we'd never have gotten here in the first place. If the PGMOL is the bad guy, the media is the stench from the scum that rose to the top of the overflowing sewer that enabled these silly little men to insert themselves into a supposedly professional sport. Never ever forgive the media for anything, they are the worst of the worst of the worst. There's nobody worse ever, in all of human history.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Crikey…that’s actually a bloody good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And you’re right of course that it won’t happen
I think you’re being incredibly unfair on Hitler, Stalin and Mao…they really went the extra mileQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Will they have the balls to give him the city game? That would be hilarious, in a bloody minded sort of way. How committed are these cunts to being in charge? I don't think they will, mainly because they are cowards so will always look for a less visible way to enact their agenda. They'll probably instruct Taylor to rig that game. And Oliver might be farmed out to the Liverpool match so he can work for city there.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
Nope. I'm being incredibly fair to the average man in the street who tolerates evil. Let's just say, these people have their own troubles and can't find the time and resources to engage with evil. The media willingly embraces it and then deploys its time and resources to promote it. We'll always have evil little fucks like Hitler, but he's just a bad artists unless the propaganda machine brings him to the attention of the distracted masses. It takes true evil to enable potential evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Maybe doesn’t help if you treat the media like a gestalt entity. They largely pull in all different directions depending on who owns them. Case in point with Hitler, his financial backers allowed the National socialists to buy out newspapers to turn them into his propaganda machine before he even came to power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Ultimately unless you are self employed, to a degree we all have to know who Daddy is
And independent journalists in Nazi Germany continued to print the truth and were rounded up and executed. Let's not rope them in with cowards who went along to get along.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I'd love to clue you in on my true relationship with government, but they might find it and use it against me. Let's just say, I actually do put my money where my mouth is, or NOT put my money in certain places. And I'm going to pay for it, I know I can't beat them because I don't have the support of enough courageous fellow citizens. But I don't just say these things, I do them. And I'm more than prepared to face the consequences. That said, if they come for my family then I'll buckle. And what about that - the mere possibility our public "servants" would come for my family? They have done it to others. Pure scum. The whole system from top to bottom. But they ones who say all is well - they are the worst, the very, very worst. There is no forgiveness for that vermin.
Should I expect to see something in the papers about a drink sodden loud mouthed malcontent which will almost certainly all be lies and character assassination, because in truth you’re a fiercely heroic crusader?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yes I hope your family remains safe as well (not that I credibly think they face any danger, any more than I think you do other than strongly written letters from the HMRC) .
No, not at all. I've figured out that violence doesn't actually solve anything without first presenting a logical case for necessary and dutiful violence in the form of self defence. We haven't even approached the stage where the logical and sane conclusion is to remove government, we are nowhere near that. So I would never advocate half-baked violence no matter how well intentioned. That doesn't remove the urgent requirement for the government to be eliminated permanently, of course. But we must live within the bounds of what is possible in any given moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Michael Oliver has had threats made against him and police are investigating. While they're doing so might want to check for any financial irregularities (but that's another matter in itself)
Why would someone do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
It’s utterly self defeating apart from anything else. It’s allowed PGMOL to take the moral high ground.
There really is no limit to stupidity
As Einstein almost certainly didn’t say (but it’s oft attributed to him)Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
“There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity…and I’m not sure about the universe”
Obviously this is moronic, but the lack of accountability for these guys who are at best grossly incompetent and at worse blatantly corrupt is sickening.
People are genuinely questioning if the abuse happens, and this includes normally sensible people like arseblog etc, on basis that if Michael Oliver doesn’t have social media etc, where is the abuse coming from? Guess someone could have found his home address or something but it says a lot that people are questioning the PGMOL over that statement as no one believes it
Oh I believe it happened. I actually came across tweets where people were honestly suggesting that he be doxxed and someone go round there and beat him up. But PGMOL have pounced on that to defend itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
Social media is a cesspit of losers who wouldn’t dare spout the garbage they do face to face. I don’t think anyone would condone this behaviour but let’s not lose sight of the real issue here and that’s the horrendous standard of officiating