Spurs have before today dropped 18 points from winning positions
3 against us
3 against Brighton
3 against Chelsea
3 against Newcastle
2 against Fulham
2 against Wolves
2 against Leicester
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Spurs have before today dropped 18 points from winning positions
3 against us
3 against Brighton
3 against Chelsea
3 against Newcastle
2 against Fulham
2 against Wolves
2 against Leicester
Palace 0-1 Brentford, Mbuemo pelanty.
Oh and Mbeumo puts Brentford ahead at Palace. Pel that was re-taken, he hit the post with the first one
I was about to say that would be their first away win of the season but they won 5-0 at Southampton (that doesn’t really count though :lol:)
Palace 0-2 Brentford, Schade.
Palace 1-2 Brentford, Esse.
The spuds are really, really poor. It's quite remarkable the extent to which they have fucked things up over the last few years. Same with Utd. They have everything going for them and haven't pressed a single advantage. These two represent the lowest bar possible and when we measure ourselves against them I suppose it's not so bad being an Arsenal fan. Of course we always want more, but at least we aren't them, right?
Likely Ange will get the sack today...shame as I really like his persona.
MaybeQuote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Maybe they’ll wait until after the 2nd leg of the Carabao cup to see if he genuinely does always win things in his second season :lol:
Yep pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Spuds 1-2 Leicester, FT.
It fucking happened.
Dr. Tottenham really knows no limits in being able to treat the afflicted.
Leicester came in with 7 league defeats in a row. :haha:
Levy has already exercised unbelievable patience with him, I am not sure the fanbase will allow any more....Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Spuds :haha:
I think the fanbase are more annoyed with Levy, but you’re right that he could well push him under the bus to save himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Of course I say that but this run of theirs is on Postecoglou, yeah they’ve had injury problems but so have we. He’s the kind of guy who is all convivial when everything is going well, but some of his post match interviews he’s been a bit of a prick. He took exception to interviewer saying same old story after Everton game, let’s be fair you’d lost three in a row…that’s not an unreasonable statement
Their fans were happy enough to miss out on the Champions League last season so they can go fuck themselves tbf.
I don’t think they had much say in the matter truth be told :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I did speak to some Spurs fans before the game. They basically stated that they wanted to win every game, but they thought city would beat them anyway and they could live with that if it denied us the title
They basically felt they’d fucked their own chances of finishing 4th in previous games
Nah it would have been very, very close if they had won that one but they preferred being defeatist.
Now they're getting that with regularity.
Such a shame. :lol:
If they’d won for sure. The point is they didn’t think they had any chance of winning. I remember that game, I don’t think Spurs played within themselves…they played defensively for sure but they did try and create things on the counter. I don’t think a lukewarm crowd made a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Also what would we have done in the same circumstances? Spurs winning the league would make me more nauseated than I will be when this Liverpool side wins it
Then we'd deserve what comes our way too.
It'd suck, it'd really suck but I'll always want what is directly best for us as a club, not necessarily what just makes me feel a bit better about things.
I fear for their justification to bake cakes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Nah
Don’t get me wrong if by beating an opponent meant us getting The title and Spurs finishing 4th, I’d be all for that without losing a second of sleep
But for me top 4 as an achievement shows the perverse nature of football currently, and it’s simply not enough to want to play any part in Spurs winning a major honour.
Go back to 1991, if we weren’t already cantering to the title and we put out a weaker side against that lot in the semi finals I could have lived with that because the league is a bigger prize.
But going for top 4 which guarantees nothing when it could hand your hated rivals the title….the upside is just not enough
Spurs. :haha:
13 defeats out of 23 is a joke. Even with their massive injury list you can’t be that easy to beat.
They must be waiting to see what happens with the cup semi final before ditching Ange because they’re genuinely heading for a relegation battle at this rate.
What upside do they have currently?
They once went 2-1 up against us for 15 minutes? Not to be sniffed at.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Nah, unfortunately they won't go down. Too many really terrible teams in this league for that. Same with Utd. 20 years ago both those sides would be bottom with zero points. But not in this league of mercs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Villa 1-0 West Ham, Ramsey.
Disallowed goal for Rogers.
West Ham are in for a pumping it looks like.
Cash - they are all playing for cash. Not the shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Am I wrong?
Can we think of a single player who is so invested in his club he'd forgo the crazy wages, get a part-time job and supplement his earning with the privilege of the pennies he earned from playing for his boyhood heroes? That doesn't happen anymore and our society is 100% poorer for it. Not like I'm saying there weren't greedy bastards back then who though, lovely, this silly fool is playing for the shirt, more cash for me! Yeah, they were there. But I'm talking about the relationship between the player and the unwashed fan who does silly things like turn up n the icy rain to shout, GO ON [fill in name of local boy who they knew from the pub].
Okay, the world has moved on. We can't have that anymore because corporations have decided we need to do something different that unfortunately rips away the deep bonds and replaces it with the profit incentive. Realism, right? The acceptance of an evil cunt's agenda when nothing was broken in the first place. Get realistic, accept the world for how it is, stop harking back to times that can't possibly exists because (in the scheme of evolution) we are suddenly different creatures? Sorry, not buying. Fuck them and fuck them all. I know what shit stinks like because I have my own shit to compare it to. I woudn't grab it up and offer it as a great leap forward. I'd be to embarrassed in case intelligent people saw right through it. Trouble is we are short on intelligent people.
Funnily enough I had that thought when reading your diatribe which I’m not sure even how much it related to anything I was discussing, and wasn’t just you using as an excuse to plant your world view/rose tinted view of the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I wouldn’t take it personally. I have that feeling when talking to most people here.
But I’d have as much interest as buying into whatever “Utopia” you aspire to as I would signing up to those online games that pretend you can win $50 by just playing on them for ten minutes.
I don’t remember a time where football wasn’t a commodity. I was born a month into the season when clubs started wearing corporate sponsors on their shirts. I think trying to pinpoint any one moment in time where greed wasn’t a factor and fans not encouraged to buy into that greed and then suddenly it all changed is utterly arbitrary.
The difference as far as I can ever distill from your homilies is that you believe that clandestine forces operate in order to change human nature from its intended purpose. I think avarice is a key component in human nature especially in a world of scarcity
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
They’re too far above the relegation zone to get sucked in.
And actually I wouldn’t actually want them to go down, I’d miss their hilarious ineptitude. There’d be a danger they could actually win the Championships.
But holy shit how are they this hopeless?
What’s that, Leicester? In freefall are you?
Dr Tottenham will see you now :lol:
WHL much have broken the Guinness World Record for booing volume today
Mings' knee looks fucked.
Paqueta. :lol:
Twat.
Villa 1-1 West Ham, Emerson!
Villa 1-1 West Ham, FT. :lol:
Fulham: Leno, Castagne, Andersen, Bassey, Robinson, Lukic, Berge, Wilson, Smith Rowe, Iwobi, Jimenez.
Subs: Benda, Reed, Rodrigo Muniz, Cairney, Traore, Cuenca, Andreas Pereira, King, Diop.
Man Utd: Onana, de Ligt, Maguire, Martinez, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Fernandes, Dalot, Diallo, Garnacho, Hojlund.
Subs: Bayindir, Lindelof, Zirkzee, Malacia, Eriksen, Yoro, Casemiro, Mainoo, Collyer.
Convinced Fulham will win this one.
I’m convinced Fulham should win this one but just as Ten Haag would get himself results to save himself I think that might be the case here. United seem better when they are playing away from home.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Iwobi shot, Onana saves, in a particularly Onana way.
Utopia? That's what you are calling documented history now? It ain't broken so let's fix it, and when it turns to abject shit - well what do you expect, it's not like it's possible to have what we had before we fixed it? If you can't distinguish the difference between football in the 70s, 80s, 90s and progressively then it's because you aren't trying. And you can conjure up all the secret cabals you want and then try to pin them on me, while I'll continue to report on the unchecked march of human greed. My explanation is far more credible than the one you have to invent for me so you can apologise for your lack of interest in the steady decline of everything worthwhile. I said lack of intelligence, but complacency is another cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Terrible quality.
What I’m saying is you’re not an objective observer either with football or anything else about what’s gotten worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Not that I suppose anyone really is. I’m not trying to label you as anything, I’m often trying to derive a point to your monologues which seem to me to be little else but bemoaning the loss of a state of affairs that I’m not sure ever truly existed to begin with.
That you and I have incredibly different ideals is simply a statement of fact.
0-0 HT. That was horrendous.