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I can think of a name.
Why is it so difficult for someone, anyone, to come up with a name?
There would have to be a replacement if Arteta went so why can't someone just name someone who they would prefer to be Arsenal manager instead of Arteta.
Why is everybody terrified to do it?
Well. I got the 1 bit right :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
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Iraola tbh
But he'll be at another club before we get there.
I honestly don't follow football enough to really know all the managers. I'm always a bit scared of the idea of us changing managers. But the board have completely backed Arteta in the transfer market, we finally have the squad depth to challenge on all fronts. If he can't land a major trophy with this squad then he needs to go. Obviously it's early enough in the season that today isn't a catastrophe, but I was hoping to a statement win and strangely confident of getting one.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
Because it’s not relevantQuote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
But if you want names, here off the top of my head
Nagelsmann
Luis Enrique
Iraola
Klopp
De La Fuente
It is a bit relevant. As I always say, the issue with Brexit was it was like saying you want to move house but no-one knew where to. This is arguably the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
But if Arteta can't deliver a big trophy with this squad despite the way the board have backed him in the transfer market then he never will and we need to find someone who can.
It's the most relevant thing.
The one I was thinking of is not on that list.
There is no chance of Klopp.
I was think of Conte.
I know I know he is ex Chelsea and turds but the man is a winner.
Conte managed Chelsea and Tottenham so he can get fucked for that alone.
Given how relatively easily Newcastle and Bournemouth were able to get at us, it was a surprise you didn't go for it more, earlier. There really wasn't much in the way of counters it was pretty much purely set pieces, which we dealt with well.
Absolutely turgid game, which I'm actually quite pleased about. I think Jones coming on (MacAllister obviously wasn't anywhere near fit) tipped the game in our favour even if it did take an incredible goal to win it.
If I recollect correctly, when you came out with this outburst more than a year ago, options I mentioned like Alonso and Ancelotti were still available and I pointed them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
Then out of no where, Liverpool bring in a nobody in Slot and they win the league.
Currently Cesc is doing a great job at Como, playing attacking football on a shoestring budget and just recently turned down the Inter job.
I am not saying we should sack Arteta now, he's spent a billion and needs to see this shit out, for at least this season.
But it is an extremely cowardly and dishonest argument to make that there is nobody out there when you are not even looking and newbies are winning things all over the place
It isn’t, a coach/manager has far more power to fuck things up than actually improve things.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
Arteta as I’ve said has done a great job in making us tough to beat, but we’ve lost the fewest games of any team over the past three years and it’s got us fuck all anywhere. He isn’t a magician, he’s bought players that are very strong mentally and good at defending…but looking at how clueless Martinelli looked today shows that attacking players are left to their own devices. Martinelli is not a bad player, but his decision making is terrible…always playing with his head down and running into blind alleys.
We need someone who can marry our defensive solidity with creativity. There was none today, and in fact when was the last time you saw any attacking player trying to be spontaneous
Who said there is nobody out there?Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Martinelli has regressed into a really average player. Quite sad to see really.
Absolutely should be sold to the highest bidder.
Arteta is no Wenger, and I mean this in where they were in life when they joined us.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Arteta has won little of note, has achieved nothing spectacular and has not faced the adversity of losing his job from a high of everyone singing your praise...all these things AW went through before he joined us.
I don't believe Arteta is set in his ways, he's still looking for a winning formula and is yet to set himself an identity.
Then my bad because I thought that was what you were implying like you did a year or so ago when you posted the exact same words after something similar like this occurred.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
You look at the amount we’ve spent on defenders and you don’t think Arteta has an identityQuote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
He’s not green behind the ears anymore, he’s been with us for almost six years…this idea that he’s finding his way is for the birds
Controlling matches and throttling the life out of opponents is his identity
But don’t listen to me, listen to Arteta himself. Listen to his post match comments and tell me if you think he regrets how he approached the game.
Because it isn’t up to fans to decide who should take over.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
That doesn’t mean we can’t all see that Arteta isn’t the guy.
Me too, I thought we would break our hoodoo today and win at Anfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
But as soon as I saw that line up, I knew Arteta wasn’t the guy.
He is a loser when it comes to what is required to win the big ones
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I might have to concede that you might be right here..... but I need to take sometime and cool off before I go listening to the clown's side of the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
That’s not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Artetas identity is making us defend well.
That’s it.
He is not the guy
Didn’t see why people felt today would finally be the day for us. We literally got outplayed by a terrible team 2 weeks ago because we had nothing to offer up front.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club
Eze is really the last hope because I don’t see anything changing with this team and Arteta.
The whole thing stinks. Champagne Stoke indeed.
Would you rather win with Conte or finish second with Arteta?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
It wasn’t about us, I thought Liverpool were so shit defensivelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
True Slot knows that and Liverpool largely weren’t too adventurous. The point is that if Bournemouth and Newcastle could score twice against Liverpool it should have been possible for us.
Arteta was hoping to get a draw and maybe pub a win.
I'd rather eat my own ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
For me the signing of Eze, on top of the already excellent transfer window, was making me feel pretty positive. As I said in the injuries thread, it's nice to be in a position where Havertz can need surgery which will keep him out for a couple of months and feel we still have plenty of options up front. We have the squad to challenge on all fronts now, I reckon. It seems we don't have the manager to but I guess we need to get a bit further in to the season before committing mass suicide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
There you have it ladies and gents.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Why because one coach who you happen to rate is unpalatable to someone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
I literally suggested a manager. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
Why would I want Conte football.
Very disapointed with the performance and result again the starting line-up was too defensive minded we have the players to attack to why not use them?
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
It was just a stupid answer.
None of it is going to happen anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Arteta is here for a few years yet.
There are many reasons to be positive, the transfer window has indeed been very fruitful and our squad looks quite strong. Which makes it all the more annoying that our coach who’s received the kind of backing that most coaches could only dream about is so predictable and never brave enough in these type of games. If we had got our noses in front we could all guarantee it would have been a backs against the wall job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Even against Leeds last week it was horribly stale until we scored from a set piece to open the game up.
We’ve got a decent chance of achieving something meaningful with this squad but the football is awful.
It was a stupid question.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
You think?….with the money he’s been given to spend?Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
One would think that if Arteta doesn’t deliver a big trophy this season then the board will hold him to account given the backing they’ve given him.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Would you rather win or finish second is not a stupid question.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Last time he was in the league he finished fourth, why are you guaranteeing me a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy