Trouble is, if he gets us relegated then the damage is done and Owen Coyle is going to have a hell of a mess to pick up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
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Trouble is, if he gets us relegated then the damage is done and Owen Coyle is going to have a hell of a mess to pick up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
I think we all take that this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
its pretty sad that a fans hope is rekindled by the thought of the manger leaving rather then the manager turning the club around and going on a long winning run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Well if the big 3 keep spending a new manager will make no diffrence we'd still finish 4th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Maybe the new manager will do likewise unlike Wenger whos stuck in the middle agesQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I hope he wins us the double! The look on his face when we sack him will be priceless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yup. What we need is a Van Helsing to bravely venture into the board room and do the biz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
When Wenger leaves Arsenal will turn into a classless team like Spurs quicker than a rabbit gets fucked.
"For the first time I lost young players, who were reaching maturity. I suffered. It's painful to lose key men you have invested a lot in," he said.
Oddly, this is nice to hear...
He couldnt do anything about Nasri but Cesc going was down to Wenger so not much sympathy should be givenQuote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal Fan
Cesc going was down to Cesc.
Cesc was under contract. We didnt have to sell. Wenger went to the board and told them to sell for a lower price than what we wanted.
Id say thats down to Wenger
And if he went to Madrid, you'd splaff your crusty underpants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
if we had kept him, and he wasnt playing great you would be shouting at wenger from the rooftops for not selling him. just stop hating on wenger, we know why you are, its cos he is proving you wrong game after game but you cant accept itQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Yes 6th place is really proving me wrong
Well yes, because you think we're going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Avoiding relegation is proving you wrong, surely?
Id rather he went to Madrid mainly cos Madrid would have paid what we asked without all the underhand tapping up Barca did.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Nevertheless that neither here or there.
Cesc going was down to Wenger being too soft on Cesc and not telling him to stfu and get on with it
Yes cos i was serious about that :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Although if Wenger does continue on after this summer for a few more years then you never know
he told him to last season, it didnt work. it was time for him to go. all blame lies at barcas door for tapping up. nothing we could have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Well you never know with with a WUM, as you yourself have said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
A sign of a good WUM that is. Keep his minions thinking it doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
thing is though, we are only out of the top four on goal difference. after teh start we had and everyone telling us we wont be near the top four, thats pretty much proving everyone wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Being near the top 4 isnt in the top 4 so therefore i fail to see how Wenger has proved me wrong considering i said we wont finish in the top 4Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Before the season started I thought we still had a good team and would be favourites to finish 4th after Utd, City and Chelsea who looked pretty much certain to be top 3. It's harder to stay top 4 now because we now have two billionaire-fueled teams in there, you'd put your house on Utd (who also have a bigger budget and, I'd concede, a better manager than us). That only leaves 1 place.
Early season we looked scarily mid-table and I feared for us, we were desperately lacking confidence.
Clearly it was a difficult summer for Wenger and the club and the start to the season just compounded things. We're on a great run now and back in contention for top 4. You have to give Wenger credit for turning it around.
There are better managers out there but I don't think there are as many as some people on here suggest and it's certainly not true that any idiot could come in and suddenly we'd be winning the league again. We should have won the Carling Cup last year and IMO Wenger should have been sacked for that final defeat. He's clearly not going anywhere this season at least so we might as well get behind him and see how we go.
I agree that its time to just accept that AW is not going anywhere and we migt as well accept that fact and get behind the team. I still think AW can be sacked mid season if necessary but we have a good vibe around the club and talking about his failings right now is just looking for negativity! I do also think AW has learnt his lesson and the squad although not as talented as before are definitely working together for the shirt... That is something i dont remember much of at AFC in the last 5 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
That would make sense :doh:. . . .you guys don't change your record because I realise now. . . .you aint fucking got one to change!Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
I can see Wenger now mapping out his master plan. . .
1) make fourth place ours
2) instruct players to throw games so we dont go any higher
3) resign
FFS we have won 10 out of our last 12. . .we still have plenty to work on. . .waiting for Jack to come back. . .hopefully make a few additions in Jan. . .we are the form team of the league (may be asides from Citeh, and just look at the resources they). . .after the shocking start, things are clicking and you guys still refuse to give AW any credit. . . I have said that I hope Wenger makes changes and that his days could be numbered if he refuses to see this but. . .at the moment I things can only get better, games against top teams are going to be tests but we showed Chelsea and there is no reason why we cant put up a battle agsinst the others. . .8:2 was a shock but one that wont be repeated in a hurry. . .
I say again and you refuse to give Wenger credit. . .
'You're blind baby, you're blind to the fact (of who you are). . . , Flava Flav
Remember when some morons were saying we were in a relegation fight? :lol:
Mongs
There is no denying we were right near the pit of the table and the team spirit looked at an all time low. It was pitiful to watch. None of the players looker happy at all. RVP wasn't playing how he's playing now and looked out of it, Theo looked pissed off and frustrated every game, but look at the goal celebration from the pair yesterday and it shows the team spirit has totally flipped.
We are on a run now and Wenger was right, a few wins and we can start building a run of wins then we'd see the confidence return. After the Carling Cup defeat, we were in relegation form. Real pitiful. I hope those days are behind us. Credit to Wenger for getting their heads back in the game. The transfers made a difference. I don't think we've seen the best of our transfer new boys and RVP is still leading the show, but if we'd have gone into the season without the last minute buys, I think we'd still be in some serious trouble. New signings can lift a team and we should have done this a lot earlier. Our bench is much stronger and we finally have competition for places in certain areas. We've been crying out for that for years. A mix of youth and experience. We're not in the clear yet but I'd say Wenger might as well see out the rest of his contract. It's a new team and they need time to gel.
But...we have to tie up a new contract for RVP and Walcott. I don't want to see a repeat of the nonsense we saw over the summer. Or if it can't be avoided, we have to buy experienced players that can take over. I don't want to see the same mistakes being made.
Who are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by FakeYank
What have you done with Fakeyank?
Welcome to GW! :tiphat:
PnG - your post sums up my thoughts on the matter. I do however struggle to see how we can hold on to Van Persie without there being significant investment elsewhere in the team. I have no doubt that RvP will continue to produce the effort he has until the last kick of the ball for us, but he will shortly be signing what will be the last major contract of his career. If he remains injury free, he will be in incredible demand. With the potential to be richly rewarded - financially, but more importantly, the opportunity to win football's major prizes.
I reckon we can match the financial rewards offered by others - but that would be the limit of what we can do under the current climate unless there is a complete 180 in our transfer policy. I just hope that when/if he does move on - it is not to City, which I actually believe would be a bad move for him anyway.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
One hope is we streghen in Jan tbh, like FY and Zimm say lets be ambitious and try and go for 3rd because the barcodes will slip in th next few weeks, spuds will too sooner or later and chavs are their for the taking.
For me a CL place and a trophy will be success for us this season.
4th place is not a cert this year, so for that reason I believe we'll strengthen in Jan.
In past years, that was the case but after reading what Wenger said, i doubt this will happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
So his expectations isnt top four but to see players improving.Quote:
What I said was that if I fell below the expectations of the club then I would consider my future.
"But that doesn't mean we have to finish top four. It is more about the players improving as a group and making progress.
In other words, he'll keep faith with these failures and we're fucked
when did he ever say that, where is the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
It will be interesting to see what clubs make a move for RVP. He'd be a fool to go to City. I can't see him making such a move. But, if Chelsea have any sense, they should throw in a bid. They need a striker like him because he can get assists as well as score goals. But I don't see him moving to another English club to be honest. I don't think Real or Barca will pursue him either. If they do, he'd be a squad player and RVP should be thinking about first team football at this stage of his career. He can't be battling out for a place in the squad and I can see that happening if he moves to Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Italy and Germany are an option. Both leagues have fallen off the radar a bit, but I could see RVP at AC Milan for some reason. It's probably the Van Basten resemblance. Bayern could probably do with him ad well. But we will see who makes the most noise about him. So far there hasn't been any links.
That's just it. I think there will be clubs interested but they won't be the best (Barca, Real Madrid) because of his age and I can't see him going anywhere else in England.
He'll stay.
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It's happening.
Lol. Good pics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
I hope he stays but a move to one of the big clubs might not be all that attractive to him anyway. I can't see them building a squad around him, he'd have to fit in to their system. But a move to Italy or Germany could actually be more attractive. Been thinking about this a little and I think stability and ambition are two main factors he's looking for in a club. How long does Wenger have left on his contract and will this club do what it takes to go for silverware this year and next? If a club comes in for him and shoes serious ambition and talks the talk, I can see him opting to one of the big clubs in Germany or Italy if we don't play our cards right.
A title in Germany or Italy is better than nothing at all here.
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Originally Posted by GB.
I have said this before.. nothing will make me happier than AW proving me wrong. At the moment we are playing good football and more importantly looking like a team that gives a fuck! Do i think AW is the right person for the job? No, i think we have better options than him.. we are still one injury away from being toothless up front.. imo we need to be playing a 442 to make the best use of our squad.
However there is a positive vibe around the club and I want it to continue.
Yep, we're a RVP injury away from our season ending.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think adequate cover for RVP & a Goetze type signing is the bare minimum required in the January window.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...s-Arsenal.htmlQuote:
CARLO ANCELOTTI will be a candidate to replace Arsene Wenger — if the Frenchman decides to quit the Gunners.
The former Chelsea boss has made it clear he wants another job in the Premier League and that it must be with a club which can challenge for honours.
He has been to the Emirates this season and his name is being mentioned as a possible replacement for Wenger.
No one at Arsenal wants Wenger to quit but he opened the debate about his future in an interview with French paper L'Equipe.
In the article Wenger, 62, indicated he would consider his position at the end of the season.
But he did insist over the weekend he would see out his current contract which runs until 2014.
Ancelotti :bow: