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Yep this is the Problem, So even if we bought in Cahill, Samab, or Phil Jags. The problems will still be there. Someone needs to tell song to stay the fuck back the silly idiot likes to go foward to much and then he makes a mistake and were caught at the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
problem with us were using that best form of defence is attack too much. Too may problems not fixed at this club and until they are nothing will change no matter who comes in.
Unlucky because we started very well no one could have predicted our defeat .One of their goal was off-side . Two own goals due to misfurtune because they didn't mean .Walcott should have had a penalty. RVP, Chamack ant Per were unfortunate not to score .Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Not to mention, the moon was in Capricorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It was never going to be our day.
Some bad luck, but twice? No way.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Chelsea conceded two offside goals to ManU today, but not two own goals. Why the fuck
did our defenders not head the ball away in every dead ball situation.
With the skill level of the current team, one cannot pass the ball to safety from
the back. Koscielny did well against Dortmund was because he clear the ball away
every time, high and long. For premiership games, he should do the same........
Sign of the goat. I guess that is why Adebayor got a couple.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
This clown will be the reason that we will finish in the bottom 6! Mind you, not forgetting the clueless Wenger!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Why are Spurs signing Kos and Getting Wenger as ManagerQuote:
Originally Posted by Ashburton2006
just thought i would bump this. been by far our best defender since the spurs game. keeps growing and growing and is looking better and better. him and tv5 will be great together imo.
Yep he's been outstanding over the past month or so. He seems to be getting stronger & quicker too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Most improved player this season I reckon.
He'd follow a good game with a couple bad ones, but now he's adding some consistency and it's a nice headache for Wenger to have, in deciding whether to keep him in the team or not.
Could not agree more tbh, its been a while since wenger had a headache of who to pick in CB, I think that TV 5 will be left back though tbh with Kos and Merts CB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
No point breaking up a partnership.
I've been impressed with him. It shouldn't be forgotten how little experience he has at the highest level. The more he plays, the better he gets. Can't argue with that really.
Amazing he did all that with £50m in his back pocket...Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
I think this guy is a really good defender. He's put in some sterling performances that, had he been anybody else, the entire footballing world would have been creaming over him (the first leg against Barcelona last season comes to mind, Borussia Dortmund this season, Chelsea yesterday)
The same applies for Szcezney. Exceptional goalkeeper, but he isn't going to get many plaudits .
Maybe there is a case for NOT getting any plaudits. Whilst we're shipping a stupid amount of goals (did you know that in the 98/99 season, we'd conceded fewer goals in the ENTIRE season than we have ALREADY this term!) this defence aren't going to get any credit.
Hence, we've gotta change the discipline, the philosophy and, quite simply, just reinstate the bare basics of defending. THAT buck stops with Wenger.
I think that the most important thing is that finally Kos has got a steady partner, they are putting a run of games together and gaining an understanding with each.
This is always what Kos has needed in my opinion, sure he has a runs with Johan or Squid but they lack quality thus things were difficulty. Sadly he never got to play so much with TV5 but when he did I always thought he looked a different player as Verms offered leadership which gave Kos renewed confidence.
Now though, with Merts, it really does look like Kos has taken it upon himself to teach the German the ropes of the PL because its like if he doesnt, he knoes things could get messy.
This I believe is the sign of a true professional, I dont doubt there wont be a few moments in the future but Kos is a good player, will form a good partnership with Merts, TV5 should go to RB till Sagna comes back then move to LB. Santos had a good second half but tge first was awful and he looks veru prone to brainfarting.
I would still look at the market in Jan but we may not have to pay the silly money Bolton and Everton want. . . .maybe that 6mil bid was in fact a very shrewd move by Wenger, as those two are not goibg to be worth what was it 17 mil come Jan.
It still go for Vertognen
Great performance by him against Chelsea. Must be first choice alongside Vermaelen from now on as Mertesacker is garbage.
Koscielny > Vidic tbh
Has played well recently.
Needs to keep doing so when he comes in whenever Mertesacker or Vermaelen arent available
Shall we give a little credit to our manager? Kossy; Gervinho, even Jenkinson (promise) look like good business...
No cos Kos was awful last season for the majority and was even worse at the start of this. Fair play to him for having a decent run of games but he needs to keep doing so. Unfortunately with Vermy nearing fitness and a shoe in to come back in, i fear Kos will go back to how he was.
Juries out on Gervinho atm
Jenkinson needs to be sold
did well yesterday tbh,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Did he even play? :blink:
Ive only seen the highlights
Yep well for about 15 mins in the 2nd half, came on for Johan DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Come on. . . .juries out on The Gerve?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Although he may still not be the finished article, he peovides is with the most direct running we have had for a good few years.
Theo and Arshavin may try but fail more often than not, admittedly playing out of position doesnt help because for every Saturday like Theo moment, there are a bag full of fails and Arshavin gets caught up in his own feet - both not wingers
But Gervs is not only not scared of running at defenders, he actiallys beats them and even turns that into an assist. We havent had that happening for yonks!
Still run for improvement, decision making the like, but if the jury is still out, I will bet a lot of dosh that when
they come back they will be singing this guys praises. . .looking like a good biy by Wenger or the board or whoever we blame for such decisions
Anyone questioning Gervinho's usefulness at the moment is mental.
Even forgetting his dribbling and assists, his movement allows RVP to do what he is doing.
He made some errors in few matches last season particularly at the beginning, has been slated since. For me, the best defender we have and one of the best in PL. The one problem he has is he does not shout/talk and organize the back line. The type of game we play requires the defense to be dynamic, moving up and down- the offside traps are crucial. Kos is brilliant at reading and positioning as he is with other attributes, how ever since Cole left we have not too many left backs who are that great, many a time its has been the left side which has played the players on as has Squid and DJ. In Per he has finally found some one who is not a liability in terms of movement and positioning but as seen against Chelsea in the first half Santos and DJ held him out to dry more than a few times. Per is a decent defender who made two poor judgments against Chelsea but then i have seen Vidic making them too. In Kos, Vermaelen and Per we have 3 top CH's, in Sagna and Jenko we have very capable right backs its is left back which looks the problem, that said i don't think Santos has completely gelled and he looks like a real good one.
Best defender in the premiership on current form, also...how fuckin fast is he??? Stick him at right back now the Verminator is back(ish)
Jenko is back as well, rather play him at right back and stick to Kos and Verm at CB. The CBs will need rotation particularly as Verm is coming back after a surgeryQuote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
Jenko is back and I think maybe able to cope with the next few games. . .however would like to see KosMertVerm show together even if it was Santos who stepped aside.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunsofashburtongrove
Santos's second half display really saved hos bacon. . .the guy needs to realise that the PL os not the bloody Mickey Mouse league he came from, the players are fit and mistakes get punished, there is a case he was fouled just before Mata's goal bit he needs to stand up and be strong. . .looks good going forward though and loves the showboating, obviously enjoys playing.
Agree that he needs to get used to intensity of league as much as he needs to gel with the way we playQuote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
Still twice the player that Gibbs is thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by gunsofashburtongrove
Agreed. Santos has shown enough to suggest that he will improve as well. Gibbs might play further forward and we could buy another young LB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
Gareth Bale will leave Spurs at the end of the season, might be worth a tennerQuote:
Originally Posted by gunsofashburtongrove
:d more like Abdenour who at 22, playing in a mid table french team and is 6'3" ticks a lot of boxesQuote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
Who Kos or JenkoQuote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
Have you seen the size of Lukaku?Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
Botelho already has 2 goals in La Liga, pretty good for an attacking FB. He is 20-21, 6' plus and decent at set piece. Feck mid table French pub players. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by gunsofashburtongrove
About the size of whale penis. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
Botelho is a good option as well. Like any other player will need teething periodQuote:
Originally Posted by milla