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17-09-2011, 02:06 PM
Ralpheroo72

When can you start?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I'll do it. Fuck it, I'd just jump on GW on Saturday morning, we could sort out the team, I'd pop in here during half time for a pow-wow and make whatever changes we though we needed. Plus we could share the team research during the weekend and the transfer window would fucking rock and roll!

There's no way we could get worse results than these.

Who's up for it?
17-09-2011, 02:06 PM
arsenalbandit

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Originally Posted by Fats

Joey Deacon

:cheers: Good call!
17-09-2011, 02:06 PM
Özim

If not for that "lucky" underserved win against Swansea we'd be bottom of the table and deservedly so, it really has been that bad so far.
17-09-2011, 02:07 PM
Joker

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

If not for that "lucky" underserved win against Swansea we'd be bottom of the table and deservedly so, it really has been that bad so far.

I think we need to follow Blackburn fans' lead and carry out some mass protests against the manager and the board tbh.
17-09-2011, 02:07 PM
Cripps_orig

Anyone know anyone who went to the game today?

Tell them to pick up some tips on how to protest against our manager cos its time that happened
17-09-2011, 02:08 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

But he scored today, though he was not bought to be a stiker was he, so not sure why you'd think he'd be prolific tbh

Then why are you even shifting the blame to Gervinho for not passing and messing up that chance? Cut the BS. I've got a serious problem with people that try to defend all of Wenger's decisions and contradict themselves in the process.
17-09-2011, 02:09 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Asthmatic Kitty

lol at all the people berating gervinho, who was one of our better performers today (and by far our best winger atm).

His forehead is too big tbh.

No that's fair enough, he did play OK and scored but his end product is disappointing.

You only need to point the finger in one direction, that's in the direction of that grey haired guy picking his nose and waving his arms up and down on the bench.
17-09-2011, 02:11 PM
gunnerrrrr

These players under mouhrino would be different calibre...... It's wenger that's shit, clueless, classless ..... He's lost it completely he needs to go today
17-09-2011, 02:13 PM
RomfordPele

I think it's quite simple now. If the money's there and Wenger has refused to spend it then the board now have to sack Wenger for gross incompetence.

If they don't sack him then you have to assume the board now consists of asset stripping bandits. And that means the fan base, RedAction, the AST etc, have to respond to protect the future of the club.
17-09-2011, 02:17 PM
gunnerrrrr

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Originally Posted by RomfordPele

I think it's quite simple now. If the money's there and Wenger has refused to spend it then the board now have to sack Wenger for gross incompetence.

If they don't sack him then you have to assume the board now consists of asset stripping bandits. And that means the fan base, RedAction, the AST etc, have to respond to protect the future of the club.

It's beyond money mate, with our squad last year Mourhinio would have won the league' it is Wenger and his rigid, static, repetitive management.

433 regardless of the opposition, players in the wrong position etc etc usless
17-09-2011, 02:18 PM
Ralpheroo72

:good:

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Originally Posted by RomfordPele

I think it's quite simple now. If the money's there and Wenger has refused to spend it then the board now have to sack Wenger for gross incompetence.

If they don't sack him then you have to assume the board now consists of asset stripping bandits. And that means the fan base, RedAction, the AST etc, have to respond to protect the future of the club.
17-09-2011, 02:20 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Then why are you even shifting the blame to Gervinho for not passing and messing up that chance? Cut the BS. I've got a serious problem with people that try to defend all of Wenger's decisions and contradict themselves in the process.

I said you can't blame wenget for gev being selsfish or did he tell him to be as well then? Gev should used hos brain and passed the ball.

Nothing to do with shifiting blame
17-09-2011, 02:23 PM
Power n Glory

Damn right it's beyond money. He plays zonal marking and puts 9 men in and around the 6 yard box for freekicks and corners. There is no organisation there and we've supposed to have been working on this all summer because our open play goal conceded record was 'world class' according to Wenger. It goes beyond money and I feared this was the case.

The new players were supposed to give this team a confidence boost. We're at rock bottom again. This is relegation form and the manager has no answers to our problems.
17-09-2011, 02:25 PM
fakeyank

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

well we go 3-1 up its a diffrent game is it not. whether we still would have one who knows.

You are kidding me dude.. that was fuckin blackburn, the bottom fuckin team before the game. To concede 4 against them is shameful.
17-09-2011, 02:29 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

I said you can't blame wenget for gev being selsfish or did he tell him to be as well then? Gev should used hos brain and passed the ball.

Nothing to do with shifiting blame

If you think that one goal could have changed the way we defend then there is no point in talking to you. It's as if you haven't been watching us play over the past few years and seen us give away 2,3 and 4 goal leads.
17-09-2011, 02:29 PM
RomfordPele

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Damn right it's beyond money. He plays zonal marking and puts 9 men in and around the 6 yard box for freekicks and corners. There is no organisation there and we've supposed to have been working on this all summer because our open play goal conceded record was 'world class' according to Wenger. It goes beyond money and I feared this was the case.

Ok, so the board, i.e. Kroenke, now has to step and sack Wenger then. Otherwise he's basically admitting he's only interested in making money and milking the club of its best assets and doesn't give a shit about the football. This is crunch time for him as well as Wenger.
17-09-2011, 02:29 PM
Joker

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger after his side's 4-3 defeat by Blackburn: "We had so many chances in the game and on top of that we scored two own goals so it is unbelievable to understand, but we have to take it on the chin. At the moment defensively we are fragile because our confidence is gone due what happened at Old Trafford."

No it's not unbelievable to understand you fool, anyone can see our defence is fucking shite.
17-09-2011, 02:30 PM
McNamara That Ghost...

Surely now our confidence will be fucked due to what happened at Ewood Park?
17-09-2011, 02:30 PM
Cripps_orig

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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger after his side's 4-3 defeat by Blackburn: "We had so many chances in the game and on top of that we scored two own goals so it is unbelievable to understand, but we have to take it on the chin. At the moment defensively we are fragile because our confidence is gone due what happened at Old Trafford."

:doh:
17-09-2011, 02:30 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If you think that one goal could have changed the way we defend then there is no point in talking to you. It's as if you haven't been watching us play over the past few years and seen us give away 2,3 and 4 goal leads.

did you read mu original post because i said it may not have made a diffrence but i guess you wanted to pick and choose to make you feel good.
17-09-2011, 02:31 PM
Joker

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

Surely now our confidence will be fucked due to what happened at Ewood Park?

Exactly, and it's the manager's responsibility to lift the side after disappointments (let's be honest, Wenger's had a lot of practise over the last few seasons) and given that we're still not over the OT massacre shows that Wenger no longer can motivate this squad of players.
17-09-2011, 02:31 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

You are kidding me dude.. that was fuckin blackburn, the bottom fuckin team before the game. To concede 4 against them is shameful.

well it would be a diifrent game, never said whe win though did i
17-09-2011, 02:32 PM
gunnerrrrr

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Originally Posted by Ach

:doh:

Fucking clueless Arsene....just fck off tO PSG
17-09-2011, 02:32 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Joker

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger after his side's 4-3 defeat by Blackburn: "We had so many chances in the game and on top of that we scored two own goals so it is unbelievable to understand, but we have to take it on the chin. At the moment defensively we are fragile because our confidence is gone due what happened at Old Trafford."

No it's not unbelievable to understand you fool, anyone can see our defence is fucking shite.

:haha: Its funny because its true
17-09-2011, 02:33 PM
Cripps_orig

3 of our defenders today didnt even play in the 8-2 loss...

The one that did was a train wreck though
17-09-2011, 02:40 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by RomfordPele

Ok, so the board, i.e. Kroenke, now has to step and sack Wenger then. Otherwise he's basically admitting he's only interested in making money and milking the club of its best assets and doesn't give a shit about the football. This is crunch time for him as well as Wenger.

Please, no more talk of the board and Stan. When things go wrong it's the board that get it in the neck but when things are great it's all down to Wenger's vision.
17-09-2011, 02:43 PM
Ralpheroo72

What do you suggest? The club is a fucking shambles, from the top to the bottom, how did it get like this?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Please, no more talk of the board and Stan. When things go wrong it's the board that get it in the neck but when things are great it's all down to Wenger's vision.
17-09-2011, 02:44 PM
Cripps_orig

Either one of Wenger or the Board are to blame.

Either there is money available and Wenger refuses to spend which puts him totally to blame

Or there isnt money to spend and Wenger has to make do therefore the Board is to blame

Both cant be innocent

However i think the following is happening.

There is money available but the board and Wenger are quite content to fill their pockets rather than spend on the team
17-09-2011, 02:45 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

did you read mu original post because i said it may not have made a diffrence but i guess you wanted to pick and choose to make you feel good.

But you still felt the need to point out a minor issue while something bigger is there right in front of your face. Why mention it at all if you felt it might not have made a difference?
17-09-2011, 02:45 PM
Marc Overmars

He's resigned!!

SSN breaking news.

:coffee:
17-09-2011, 02:46 PM
fakeyank

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Please, no more talk of the board and Stan. When things go wrong it's the board that get it in the neck but when things are great it's all down to Wenger's vision.

:gp:

I see this hate against Kroenke on here and amongst many arsenal fans. My question is, what has he done wrong? I am not saying he has done anything right either but this man has been the owner since last season... our shit manager has been fuckin us over the last 5 seasons.. but guess what? Lets blame the yank! He knows nothing about 'soccer'.. he is bringing the club down.

AW is to blame for 95% of whats going wrong and 5% with the board and that 5% is coz they are not sacking this sack of shit!
17-09-2011, 02:46 PM
fakeyank

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

But you still felt the need to point out a minor issue while something bigger is there right in front of your face. Why mention it at all if you felt it might not have made a difference?

This.
17-09-2011, 02:47 PM
RomfordPele

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Originally Posted by Ach

Either one of Wenger or the Board are to blame.

Either there is money available and Wenger refuses to spend which puts him totally to blame

Or there isnt money to spend and Wenger has to make do therefore the Board is to blame

Both cant be innocent

However i think the following is happening.

There is money available but the board and Wenger are quite content to fill their pockets rather than spend on the team

Exactly. That's the point I made earlier.

So before we weren't allowed to criticise Wenger. Now we're not allowed to criticise the board?
17-09-2011, 02:47 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Please, no more talk of the board and Stan. When things go wrong it's the board that get it in the neck but when things are great it's all down to Wenger's vision.

It's right for the board to get it in the neck when things go wrong. They enjoy the most senior positions at the club and should assume responsibility if the club is not performing. The fans can't sack Wenger, the players can't sack him. Only the board can do that so why shouldn't they be condemned if they fail to act? And why shouldn't we wonder why they don't act? This is an ongoing decline, not a problem that has sprung up. There must come a time where a problem is acknowledged and those responsible for it step up and either correct it or leave it to somebody who can.
17-09-2011, 02:48 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

:gp:

I see this hate against Kroenke on here and amongst many arsenal fans. My question is, what has he done wrong? I am not saying he has done anything right either but this man has been the owner since last season... our shit manager has been fuckin us over the last 5 seasons.. but guess what? Lets blame the yank! He knows nothing about 'soccer'.. he is bringing the club down.

AW is to blame for 95% of whats going wrong and 5% with the board and that 5% is coz they are not sacking this sack of shit!

Something Kroenke said recently that got to me and suggested that hes going to do f all to change things.

Let me try and find it

Here it is

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/09...ansfer-policy/

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“There’s a risk of going backwards if you overreact and start throwing money around in an attempt to solve your problems,” explained Kroenke.

Looks to me like he wont spend
17-09-2011, 02:48 PM
Bergstar

I think the huge issue is the form displayed through 2011. Lets be clear this season is a follow on from the last 13/14 of last. This team is in serious trouble and it's not about new players settling in. A rot has set in and people should forget any hope and expectation of a top 4 finish. The last 18 premier league games, which amounts to half a season sees this side in relegation form. That is the reality
17-09-2011, 02:49 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

But you still felt the need to point out a minor issue while something bigger is there right in front of your face. Why mention it at all if you felt it might not have made a difference?

Nah it won'y make a diffrence
17-09-2011, 02:49 PM
Ollie the Optimist

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

He's resigned!!

SSN breaking news.

i dont have sky, you winding us up?
17-09-2011, 02:50 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

He's resigned!!

SSN breaking news.

:coffee:

not the best time to wum tbh
17-09-2011, 02:50 PM
Master Splinter

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i dont have sky, you winding us up?

:rose:

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