kolo toure: and now somehow about Theo

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06-11-2011, 08:42 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by GB.

Done.

The point is that if I was making a point about Kolo, I wouldn't use Bergy and Campbell to support it.

Which reminds me, what happened to Bergstar?

Yeah and Jen's Face is missing too.
06-11-2011, 10:08 PM
IBK

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Go back to the last match thread to find my latest criticism of Theo Walcott. I'm not saying the guy is a pub teamer, I'm saying he's failed to deliver on his potential. Gervinho has come in and already done more than Theo and that says a lot about Theo. The guy has plenty to say for himself, whether in the media or in books, but seems to do more talking off the pitch than on it. He needs to change that don't you think? If he improves then I'll say well done Theo too. I want him to improve.

IMHO Walcott has shown enough to suggest that Wenger hasn't found his best position/combination.
06-11-2011, 10:48 PM
fakeyank

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Originally Posted by Ach

I could say the same about you and your laughable critisisms of Walcott which you've been very quiet about since the Chelsea game :lol:

Wonder why?

As for Jenkinson, he was shite pre season and even worse at the start of the season. He was even crap in midweek v Marseille. He might have played well v WBA but one game in a season doesnt make a player good

I dont think Jenkinson is all that either. He seems very slow on the ball but he definitely is growing every game. He shouldnt be playing so many first team games so soon but our luck with injuries coupled with the genius that AW is, we have him playing week in week out. One thing though, this kid has got a killer cross! Bendy or Ade would be popping them in for fun... too bad we dont have any decent headers in the team!
06-11-2011, 11:08 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by GB.

Now that it seems we have moved on to Theo.

When will people realise, that he is not going to get better?

How many fucking years of aspiring and failing to achieve mediocrity will it take?

He is awful, he is incapable of learning and even yesterday, against West Brom, he could rarely beat a man.

He was incredibly fortunate yesterday when he should have scored, that Van Persie was following up when he shot it straight at the keeper.

Theo was the one dark cloud in a shining performance and I'm a long way past being fed up with this guy.

It's funny because the other week he was giving Cashley nightmares. He's inconsistent if anything. Far from awful.
07-11-2011, 10:26 AM
21_GOONER_SALUTE

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Originally Posted by GB.

Done.

The point is that if I was making a point about Kolo, I wouldn't use Bergy and Campbell to support it.

why? Has Kolo not done enough to be mentioned among these legends? I mean all 3 played a big part in AW's success here, check. All 3 gave us their best years, check. All invincibles, check. In fact i believe Kolo played a bigger part in that legend than the other aforementioned, check. Sol left when it was clear the world beater Senderos was being preferred and he'd get a confirmed starting place and better pay packet 'abroad', check. And none has ever said/ done any evil to AW or Arsenal. So it's not like i compared Bentley to Bobby or something....
07-11-2011, 10:28 AM
Japan Shaking All Over

Theo is a flirt!
promises much but then disappoints on delivery. . . .he is massively inconsistent and equally frustrating however. . .I am seeing something of a change in him, well the last two games have shown it IMO.

He seems to be trying to mimic Gerv on the other side, maybe its the team as a whole and the obvious confidence, take his goal against Chelsea as direct as you like and resisted the temptation to go down much some were criticising him for doing just a while ago, Bolton I think?

Saturday he looked to run with the ball, something hes not great at but did alright.

I dont hate Theo and I agree with all that say he is mot a winger. . .but if he gets given that role he needs to do the best he can
07-11-2011, 12:04 PM
21_GOONER_SALUTE

Also i was contrasting them only to highlight how i believe Kolo's standout qualities of passion and enthusiasm, would add nothing to what we unfortunately call our back 4. Simply put Verm's steel reminds me of Sol/Den while kos is undoubtedly Kolo like. It's just a question of what sort of player mentality we can do with/without.
07-11-2011, 01:02 PM
Coney

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB.

The point is that if I was making a point about Kolo, I wouldn't use Bergy and Campbell to support it.

Which reminds me, what happened to Bergstar?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Yeah and Jen's Face is missing too.

:lol:
07-11-2011, 01:26 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It's funny because the other week he was giving Cashley nightmares. He's inconsistent if anything. Far from awful.

He's inconsistently awful.
07-11-2011, 03:38 PM
Fist of Lehmann

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Originally Posted by Coney

:lol:

:unsure: Not sure I follow.
07-11-2011, 05:03 PM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

why? Has Kolo not done enough to be mentioned among these legends? I mean all 3 played a big part in AW's success here, check. All 3 gave us their best years, check. All invincibles, check. In fact i believe Kolo played a bigger part in that legend than the other aforementioned, check. Sol left when it was clear the world beater Senderos was being preferred and he'd get a confirmed starting place and better pay packet 'abroad', check. And none has ever said/ done any evil to AW or Arsenal. So it's not like i compared Bentley to Bobby or something....

Wow.
07-11-2011, 05:19 PM
Niall_Quinn

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In fact i believe Kolo played a bigger part in that legend than the other aforementioned, check.

Uncheck. Don't be mad. Kolo Toure vs Dennis Bergkamp? Having a laugh.
07-11-2011, 06:16 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

I dont think Jenkinson is all that either. He seems very slow on the ball but he definitely is growing every game. He shouldnt be playing so many first team games so soon but our luck with injuries coupled with the genius that AW is, we have him playing week in week out. One thing though, this kid has got a killer cross! Bendy or Ade would be popping them in for fun... too bad we dont have any decent headers in the team!

We have Chamckh, Oh...
07-11-2011, 06:31 PM
21_GOONER_SALUTE

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Uncheck. Don't be mad. Kolo Toure vs Dennis Bergkamp? Having a laugh.

Don't be an idiot you idiot. No ones saying Den doesn't easily trump Kolo in the legend books- but in that year Kolo only missed 1 fuckin game of one of the meanest defences ever, starting 36 times. But i'm sure to you Den's 24 appearances in total and 4 goals is what made that record all possible.
07-11-2011, 06:48 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Don't be an idiot you idiot.

Make up your mind.

Toure can fuck himself as far as I'm concerned. He wanted City's money, he has City's money. So who's worried except you? Toure started the 36 games you mention. Great, I have no problem with that and I'll even say thanks Kolo. It's that first game he started with City I have the problem with. Legend? Are you serious? Yes, if Bergkamp had made 0 appearances in that year the steam off his piss would be more legendary that Kolo Toure. But don't rely on me, ask anyone who understands that legendary status is built from more than a statistics manual.
07-11-2011, 07:02 PM
21_GOONER_SALUTE

Oh and before you complain about money, which you inevitably will, one of the benefits of being on gweb for so long was being around when we all found out what Kolo was being paid- which was after like 3 years of him being a first teamer. Anyway it remains the silliest amount an established non-youth player has earned under AW, and we only found out because he was about to sign a new so called bumper pay pack. He never gave us an inkling of discontent, so stop comparing him to The Whore.
07-11-2011, 07:04 PM
Syn

Kolo :lol:

Garbage defender. Nice guy though. Probably.

How much did we get for him...£16m, wasn't it? :haha:
07-11-2011, 07:09 PM
21_GOONER_SALUTE

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Make up your mind.

Toure can fuck himself as far as I'm concerned. He wanted City's money, he has City's money. So who's worried except you? Toure started the 36 games you mention. Great, I have no problem with that and I'll even say thanks Kolo. It's that first game he started with City I have the problem with. Legend? Are you serious? Yes, if Bergkamp had made 0 appearances in that year the steam off his piss would be more legendary that Kolo Toure.

lol lol i hate my phone !!
07-11-2011, 07:51 PM
fakeyank

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

We have Chamckh, Oh...

Yup, we do have him and I am sure he is killing those crosses in training coz he aint starting for us.
07-11-2011, 08:58 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

Oh and before you complain about money, which you inevitably will, one of the benefits of being on gweb for so long was being around when we all found out what Kolo was being paid- which was after like 3 years of him being a first teamer. Anyway it remains the silliest amount an established non-youth player has earned under AW, and we only found out because he was about to sign a new so called bumper pay pack. He never gave us an inkling of discontent, so stop comparing him to The Whore.

But what about the money?

Anyway, which whore are you talking about? There are a few now. Actually it was the suggestion Toure's name should be mentioned in the same breath as Bergkamp's that woke me up. Bergkamp's a legend, the other guy's a myth.
07-11-2011, 09:06 PM
Marc Overmars

Kolo is alright, nice guy and I never questioned his commitment. He certainly wasn't the best defender we've ever had but he was highly thought of from 2004-2006, being part of the Invincibles and the meanest CL defence. Campbell and Senderos complimented him well, in the same way Kos and Merts have looked decent together, despite having an opposite style of play.

He obviously didn't get on with Gallas and that ruined any chance of forming a partnership there. The time was right for him to leave and the offer from City was too good to refuse.

Legend? No.

Deserving of our respect for his service here? Yes.
07-11-2011, 11:25 PM
21_GOONER_SALUTE

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

But what about the money?

Anyway, which whore are you talking about? There are a few now. Actually it was the suggestion Toure's name should be mentioned in the same breath as Bergkamp's that woke me up. Bergkamp's a legend, the other guy's a myth.

Ok, i give up. When you actually read my posts, especially the ones you cut and pasted replies to, let me know. The Whore is trademarked to Ade, who i thought you compared to Kolo but apparently i was wrong and it was Nasri at your recieving end. And TBF to Nasri, the reasons he gave could still come too fruition just like Cesc's reasons did in his first 3 games for Barca.
07-11-2011, 11:52 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

Ok, i give up. When you actually read my posts, especially the ones you cut and pasted replies to, let me know. The Whore is trademarked to Ade, who i thought you compared to Kolo but apparently i was wrong and it was Nasri at your recieving end. And TBF to Nasri, the reasons he gave could still come too fruition just like Cesc's reasons did in his first 3 games for Barca.

You said,

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lol lol i hate my phone !!

So I ask again, what about the money?
13-11-2011, 11:47 AM
Penguin

You can't fault his attitude and professionalism, but hes an awful defender. His positioning is pub team standard and he just adds to the uncertainty at the back. Thats the last thing our team needs.

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