:shrug: Block 111. Think that's the East Stand.Quote:
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:shrug: Block 111. Think that's the East Stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
When i go, im at 106. Pretty close to you then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Next time i go to a game, the drinks are on you
I reckon it's the other way around. If defenders fly in at him, he's quick to kick the ball down the line and chase it. When defenders stand off, he forces himself to run at them (which he's terrible at because he has no tricks).Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think he had a good game today. You can tell he's full of confidence at the moment or else he wouldn't have tried that brilliant, ambitious ball towards RVP in the first half - he'd usually look to run to the byline and cut it back to nobody.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Our midfield is OK but not good enough IMO, Arteta and Ramsey should be fighting for 3rd CM spot. They are both not comfortable picking the ball from CBs or throw in.We were lucky cos inexperience Dortmund but we wont be so lucky against bigger teams. I hope Wenger will buy at least one CM who is comfortable on the ball and let Arteta and Ramsey fight for the last CM role.
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Goetze :pray:Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Don't forget Arteta or Ramsey only have a place in the team because of Wilshere's injury. Big decision to be made who to drop when Sir Jack is fit again.
I know he's done great over the past month, but I think maybe Ramsey should be taken out. #justsayin.
He reacts like a striker when it comes to dribbling. He thinks everything has to been done quickly and he's better at reacting to defenders, thinking quicky and responding with quick movement. We said this before but he needs to slow down a bit and force defenders to back up until they have to put in a challenge. Noticed he did that oj one occasion tonight but as soon as he got a yard of space he looked for the early cross when he have kept on going down the line. Their left back was on a yellow so he could have toyed with him a bit. He could have taken down the line and stopper just outside of the box and then try to take his man on. The guy would have been scarred to put a challenge in. Gervinho is great at doing this and Henry used to do it a lot as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
If we really want to play counter attacking style, it is best to have another player with pace. In our case it has to be from midfield. I am actually incline to have Diaby as the 3rd CM but it is unfair to dismiss Ramsey and Arteta, they have quiet well especially against PL pub teams. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I'd say Arteta. He's slow and can't get up and down the pitch like Ramsey and JW. I think Ramsey is good in the final third and can play the killer pass or find space to get the shot but he needs someone one in the midfield that is comfortable on the ball so he can focus on getting into space. Ramsey is good when he has time to pick out a pass but he suffers when the game is tight. Wilshere can cope under pressure an he has the engine. Arteta gets my vote to go. Right now, Song is the only one that is comfortable when under pressure.
I think Jack would be a like for like swap with Rambo. I feel Arteta and Song is the foundation to build from. Both are hugely disciplined and make vital interceptions, hold up play, draw fouls etc. Song's ability to go to mental and play as an attacker is a bonus as well. I'm liking the look of the midfield at the moment, nothing needs to be changed right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
I'm not even sure what style of football we're playing at the moment, we seem to be mixing pragmatic play with some classic Wengerball. It's a good balance and we shouldn't do anything to affect that.
Great game and win. Up against and technical, athletic and battling team we came out with a deserving win. I saw Fergie in an interview say that to win a game you need 8 players to come good, we had 12. Gervinho's finishing and Songs conceding of the last minute goal were blips, but for the first time since 2005 we have a team which can adapt on the field ,and battle it out while having quality. Adaptability is key and we can counter attack as well as play possession, we can get the low crosses, the cute one twos as well as the through passes. Arteta was brilliant again in a game where his usual possession style was not effective, he compensated with his battling and stifling their midfield. Yossi looks much better than Arshavin, showing off his skill, and commitment, Ramsey showcased his ability to thread passes for the forwards, Mertesacker composed, Vermaelen powerful and decisive as usual. Song had a mixed game like the legs of the shorts he was wearing some of game were short and the rest brilliant. Full backs were brilliant- Santos is officially the best passing full back we have ever had. Kos though not as attacking as our regular RBs had a brilliant game defensively some great interceptions and foiling attacks from BVBs left wing as usual brilliant at reading the game. Our forwards were brilliant as usual. Now after a long time were able to counter attack with pace, adding variety and making it difficult to defend against us. Gervinho has improved the defensive side and despite his failings with finishing, is brilliant with his attacking play. Theo finally looks to have come of age, he looks good defensively but more importantly his passing has improved which aids him in playing better against teams which play behind the ball. He still lacks the classical trickery and skill of typical attacking wingers but he is effective. People say Sczecesny is a good goal keeper, i beg to differ i think we are seeing a new tactical evolution here a goal area manager. Its still early days but for the first time in along time we have a very honest team which is prepared to battle it out every game they play
Playing a bit shit and winning :bow:
We won so none of the following really matters but i thought we were a bit poo last night. We looked nervy and disjointed I would like to say that's because Dortmund were closing us down so well but its not true. There was also a fair amount of falling out going on all over the pitch, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it was present the whole first half and until we got the goal. Gervinho and Santos should have come off at half time as they were dire. CB's looked solid as did Kos again though which is a positive. Another 2 goals for the Perse to make it....:drumroll: 38 goals in 41 games in 2011, and remembering how wank we were for the first half of the year thats really quite astounding.
Hope the exquisitely named Sven bender gets well soon though looked quite bad when he came off and its been reported this morning he is having to have surgery to repair a badly broken jaw.
Group Winners :bow:
Also everyone seems to be forgetting but it looks like Kos is singlehandedly giving us clean sheets!
Also did anyone else think RvP was offside for the second goal?
Also, Mertesacker looks a different entity in Europe to the prem so i would say its a settling in thing for him at the moment, thought aside from one scary moment right at the start they looked good last night.
Defensively everyone was sound. We really had to work for the result, very satisfying win against a decent side.
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Originally Posted by Flavs
He was always suited to the CL though, it was the prem he always needed to adapt to.
Merts is solid in the Prem as well. Against Norwich he had that one wobble but was fine after that. I think he's made a good start and has only had really bad moments against Chelsea and Norwich and that's the key thing, just a bad moment. It's never case of him making a mistake and looking nervy for the rest of the game which is a problem we've had with many of our defenders in the past.
def. rotate the two, so they can both develop without being overplayed and exposed to injury. ramsey reminds me a lot of cesc in how he runs and moves the ball along, and has developed really well this season. a bit up and down in recent weeks but that's to be expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Ramsey is the better player IMO
(I can feel a thread coming on here)
Such a good feeling tbh, this time last season it was horrible.
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Originally Posted by Flavs
Far from it.
Wilshere is overrated due to his age and GHELishness tbf
Are you wumming or do you actually believe thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
I believe it, if he were foreign he wouldnt be rated anywhere near as highQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I don't agree. Walcott was over-rated because he was young and English but I've seen Wilshere enough to believe he's the real deal.
Wilshere has impressed at club and international level in a way Walcott didn't at his age.
I think you may have a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
I agree about Walcott but Wilshere is blown out of proportion by the media and a lot of fans IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
you're right he is but he is still a better all round player than ramsey at the moment. not by a country mile but his game is more developed.
Wilshere was, by some distance, our best performer last season over the course of 38 games. You had Nasri playing brilliantly for 2-3 months but Jack was consistently excellent (though not as good as Nasri at his best). His natural ability can't be questioned - he's capable of doing shit that quite frankly Cesc and many other top players aren't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3pZaRvt6g8 ...he steps up a gear in the big games (see Carling Cup final and his motm performance against Barcelona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W8Ie4MyRX0 ). He was playing in a more defensive position for us last season (which is why Cappello started making comparisons with Makelele and everyone went mental) but this season he should get forward now that Cesc is no longer our no.10/ACM. Needs to add goals to become the complete player but he has shown he has everything else in his locker.
The biggest question is that will he be able to get back to the level he was at before the injury or will the injury have caused him to go backwards in his development. Ramsey needed a long time before he started to play well (which is now), Eduardo never really got back at all...there's no guarantees that Wilshere will be able to fit back in like nothing happened. But if he does, he's one of the best players in the league. Already.
We also hace Coq who can do a job, Rosicky who we could have used yesterday. and Arshavin who needs to played in the "cesc role" not on the wing. However since insulting wenger seems not to be getting games at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
fair playQuote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
I disagree re Arteta. For me he has been instrumental in allowing us to keep our shape - not to mention allowing Song to use his physical presence to get up the field. Unspectacular (which IMO is why he's being singled out), but effective in doing the simple things correctly. He lacks pace - which is why he was exposed by the most explosive team we've played this season in the first half (and yes I incude Manure here - whose score against us was flattering and mostly down to us being in turmoil and badly unbalanced). But generally I think he's been good news and would prefer a balanced blend in MF (which we have) rather than a team built around a want-away player.
good win.
please, play youngsters in the next cl match. good experience for them and it doesn't matter what the outcome is.
I think the idea that Arteta lacks pace is a little misleading. He's probably not as quick as he was pre-injury, but he's certainly just as fast as Fabregas was if not more. I remember several instances of pace + good positioning which lead to him slowing down / breaking up Dortmund's attacks. He has forged a fine balance and understanding with Songenbauer.
If you want the cavalier, free-flowing, non-stop-attacking Arsenal of the past, then Arteta is probably a bit of an annoyance.
But if you want an Arsenal team who'll do the basics right, put in the required graft and be more efficient, then Arteta is a vital component.
Myles Palmer is an idiot, but I saw this article earlier, in which one of his readers makes some good points: http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/i...proved-Arsenal.
Point taken - perhaps I am skewed by the obsession with speed in the EPL these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser
An article praising our defence:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/b...?newsfeed=true
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Good to see there's at least one writer out there who bases his pieces on what actually happens on the pitch rather than pre-conceived cliches and headline-grabbing misinformation.
We don't like it up us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Wilshere provides the graft and work rate that Arteta does plus the quality in distribution and switching play from attack to defence. In a couple of months it won't be either or. He works hard but who doesn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter