Wenger Referendum: Yes Or No

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

A lot of this Arteta rage feels like chucking the baby out with the bath water to me? If your problem with him is that you genuinely think he has no value whatsoever, and isn't capable of making any kind of contribution, even as an occasional squad player and mentor, then fair enough. But if your problem is more specifically with him being our first choice defensive midfielder, and us not signing anyone else to play there, then your problem is actually with Wenger.

Let's put it another way - if Wenger left tomorrow, and a new guy came in and bought a wizard-good DM in the januray window, would you still believe that Arteta should be ditched, or would you think he might still be a useful asset to keep around?

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Ditched - slows us down as an attacking force & has had he's best days. Need better than that now both as a 1st 11 player & reserve.

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

Ditched - slows us down as an attacking force & has had he's best days. Need better than that now both as a 1st 11 player & reserve.

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Stop speaking sense.

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

A lot of this Arteta rage feels like chucking the baby out with the bath water to me? If your problem with him is that you genuinely think he has no value whatsoever, and isn't capable of making any kind of contribution, even as an occasional squad player and mentor, then fair enough. But if your problem is more specifically with him being our first choice defensive midfielder, and us not signing anyone else to play there, then your problem is actually with Wenger.

Let's put it another way - if Wenger left tomorrow, and a new guy came in and bought a wizard-good DM in the januray window, would you still believe that Arteta should be ditched, or would you think he might still be a useful asset to keep around?

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I would keep Arteta in the squad. We have seen the effects of letting go some of the experienced players and then hoping the youngsters are just going to start leading the line. What happens in the dressing room is just as important as to what happens on the pitch. Utd kept a hold of Giggs, Scholes and Ferdinand way beyond their sell by date. Why? Because you cannot buy experience..

is the match thread now just for the etonians? why is it closed/shut to some of us?

I wondered why no-one was posting in there. No idea :unsure:

Fucked us over big time today :ilt:

I have no idea how anyone can any longer support Wenger as manager.

After the plastering we took last year, here we are again, completely out thought by a superior manager (yes he is a cunt and yes the ref has been shit).

He has to leave the club, utterly utterly clueless.

Look at the batterings he has taken in big games recently...8-2. 6-3. 5nil etc etc etc .... which other world class manager, on the money he is on, has such a shocking record in the big games.

He is mugging us all off.

You'd think after so many years of constant disappointment in these games he would have figured out an effective way to approach them, but no.

He's got to be one of the weakest "big game" managers in the business.

Fcuk off Wenger.

No trophy will make me want to keep him.

Just can't bear watching football with Wenger in charge of us.

Seeing that fcuking pass from Cesc just makes me so sad.

We won't win PL again if we stick with Arsene. There are too many superior managers around. Mourinho completely has his number, Arsene is his bitch.