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Cole :bow:
Arsenal :haha:
So called Arsenal curse :haha:
I think that's fair enough from Cole. If you're going to dish it out to him on Twitter then you can't moan when he gives it back.
11 trophies to our zero is pretty shocking tbh!
Don't think anyone is calling him out on trophies though.
Doesn't make him any less of a ****.
And we have every right to call him one if we want.
Cole.
****.
See.
Ithink one of our ex-players could shoot 4 orphans but as long as he has an intertoto-cup to his name, we'd be defending him. Trophies, fucking trophies. Self-loathing. Blah blah shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Yep, our fans started it so it's understandable he's reacted. No big deal IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
Ash. :bow:
Our boy done good.
The board should have given him the extra 5k.
That 5k had to go in to the yacht fund tbh
Including the charity shield in that list is pretty desperate.
We shouldve put our Emirates cup and the recently won trophy as well.. let's see that bitch win those! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ogg Monster
Oh and also the morally superior cup.. we been winning that shit forever!
We only negotiate early contracts for the most important players. :scarf:
RVP. :lol:
http://www.blackscarfafc.co.uk/#/new...box/4567023496
shockingly out of touch
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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
I could sell my house and enjoy one season only of living it up with PHW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Though, your house is the bit behind the sky sports news desk tbf. With all those multiple screens and stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
"Maccy understands...."
I lent them my news service.
GW stalwarts. :bow:
who the mug that wrote the article? i agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
That whole website is shit. Bitter as fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
shit for what? revealing the power hungry, money grabbing board for what they are?
70k for boxes are ridiculous.
I wish i had that many screensQuote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
for wumming a sales guy, then hammering some random person that will just delete the email.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
seriously, what did the knob expect? he really feels like a great job has been done but all the sales team will do is close the serious enquiries - arsenal still win and knob'ed there can send more shitty little emails.
no different from the wumming by our board who rip off fans with ridiculously high ticket prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
and as for the 'arsenal still win'. the article makes an interesting point; closing ties with the core fan base - the working class who have been attending for years - is a dangerous move for the club because a time will come when the rich/tourists get bored and have other things to do on a saturday afternoon. whats the club going to do then? it will have burnt its bridges and outpriced the core supporters. the stadium will start getting empty (which it was doing last season anyway).
maybe they should take a leaf out of ac milan's book who earlier this week announced they will reimburse unhappy season ticket holders after the departures of ibra + thiago silva. that's called looking after their fan base. but then again if our board offered to reimburse season tickets every time we sold a star player we'd have been bankrupt last summer.
A player earning 70k a week for kicking a ball around is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
The boxes are for companies for schmoozing clients. Yes, it's ridiculous but wages are ridiculous, transfer fees are ridiculous. Lots of things about the modern game are ridiculous. If we can generate money that way then fine. Football shouldn't be this way but it is, what are we supposed to do? Charge a fiver to get in like the good old days? We're struggling to compete as it is.
there's a clear line between reality and insanity. giving footballers 70k a week is reality, especially with the progressive amounts of money being pumped into the modern game. on the other hand, charging residents, supporters and corporate clients 70k for a box at the emirates ( or 5k a seat in a box ! ) is insane. yes they are predominantly offered to companies, but my understanding is anyone can buy a box and over the summer, our box-office have been ringing local supporters offering a box for extortionate prices. i guess that's their job and the sales people are judged on the amount of tickets they sell, but it still doesn't excuse the violation of insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Both are insane, that's modern football for you.
The boxes are intended for corporate hospitality, if very rich individuals want to buy in then that's their look out, no-one's forcing them to.
I have to say I do somewhat object to feeling like I'm a 'customer' these days rather than a fan though.
insane but on different levels.
footballers nowadays earning 70k a week was always a formality, only compounded by big money transfers such as zidane going for €60m+ in 2001 and fat ronaldo going for €40m+ in 2002. add to that the sudden trend of rich owners heavily investing into football clubs, and wages were only going to spiral.
on the other hand, the massive cost burden implemented onto supporters was somewhat of a surprise, or at least the speed at which it happened created an element of surprise. 10 years ago i was not expecting our club to charge 70k for corporate seats but i was somewhat resigned (perhaps it was common sense) to the fact that players would be getting 100k+ a week.
Both are supply and demand, fella. Neither are right.
The days when footballers are local lads made good who have a real connection with the fans and don't earn significantly more than them are long gone.
thats my point; its supply and demand of the wrong people. it should be s+d of the core supporters and this should be reflected through affordable ticket prices. 70k does not represent that. instead it's s+d of the rich and middle classes; by pricing the tickets at ridiculously high prices, you're creating a market specifically for them, by not giving the core supporters an opportunity to watch their beloved team.
this ultimately destabilises our club in the long run.
Corporate boxes aren't aimed at the rich and middle class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
They are aimed at corporate customers.
And the cheapest ticket prices will be £10 cheaper than they were last season.
Honestly, you're getting worked up over a non-issue.
Just what do you think the boxes are there for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
They aren't and never have been aimed at anything other than corporate clients. The revenue they generate is tremendous and it is NOT at the expense of capacity. Islington Council made it clear that as a result of the local infrastructure and the location being in a residential area there would be no planning permission granted for a stadium of greater capacity.
I have issues with the Board for lots of things - extracting as much money as possible from corporate clients or people who should know better - isn't one of them. Additionally, you or me deciding not to renew a ST or go to a game will make the Board think much less than if they can't fill these boxes to full capacity.
i completely comprehend the fact that boxes are for corporate clients but its the fact they are being offered to non-corporate clients this summer, namely local residents and supporters (many of whom have expressed their frustration on social networking sites), that annoys me. especially as it links into the money grabbing culture our board seem to have.
but then again, as ive already stated, you expect that because they need to sell tickets so will push everything they have at the emirates onto consumers.
i guess im thinking out loud more than anything. nothing sinister towards anyone on here.
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What did you call me? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
the difference is, the sales people couldn't give a fuck about you or me. you think they support the club or just worry about their targets and commission? the guy is massive dickhead who thinks sending some spazzy little email is really getting one over the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
he even thinks he was 'targeted' by that email. well sorry to break his little heart but it most probably came from a huge database where absolutely any human being that had ever communicated and left their email with arsenal would be contacted.
the rest is all blah blah blah. sending a dumb email that is laughed at in a sales office and never comes close to a board members inbox is a complete waste of time.
Yeah I got that email too.
Forwarded it to my boss. Unfortunately he didn't buy a box this season. Maybe next year
I got the Tottenham one.
but i don't think we should downplay the importance of the exchange as it fits into the current culture under our repressive regime; fans feeling isolated and the proximity gone. it shows a break in what was once deemed an unremitting bond between supporters and arsenal football club. year after year we see a larger turnover of fans; many of whom have had enough of adversity. people who have been coming for decades are beginning to turn their back on the club. that shows the poor state of affairs not just at our club, but football in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
this idea board members seem to have that we are simply passive consumers and accept the bullshit showered down to us is starting to break; there are signs of backlash. one by one people are starting to wake up because they've had enough; emails like this merely highlight the divide tearing the club apart.
i agree that in the short term, as you say, the club will not suffer by people sending snotty emails and refusing to buy ST's; after all, there is a long list of so called 'supporters' who would happily pay inflated prices to watch games at the emirates. however, there is a problem in the long term because once that list of caviar eating, pompous stricken individuals runs out, the club will have little to fall back on. the core supporters would be out of sight.
whats the club going to do then? start giving out free tickets?