Good Bye RVP!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

---

Yeah but if you're on £90k a week, you're already on rockstar wages which are more than you can spend anyway. If you're on £3.50 you're living in poverty. It's not a valid comparison. If Arsenal were paying me £90k a week, I wouldn't leave. If they were paying me £3.50 an hour, I'd have to or else I couldn't afford to live.

Anyway, as I said, some reliable sources seem to suggest he was on a lot more than the basic wage once bonuses and add-ons were taken into account. Can't find the source yet but am looking. Anyway, that's irrelevant. Everyone's said it's not money-motivated and if it were surely Man City is the option. It's got to be about winning titles whilst retaining credibility. No one at Man City has any, of course. Plus Sky Blue is a properly shit color. Hence Utd.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Letters

That's not really a valid comparison. When you're on £100k a week (or thereabouts) a pay rise isn't going to change your quality of life.

---

It's not about quality of life. It's about your value. Nobody here would accept a job paying less than minimum wage, nobody here would be happy if your being paid the least compared to your colleagues or counterparts even if your happy as larry on that original wage. You'd have to question why you're not worth the same as the rest of your peers. We can go around in circles all day with this one but I'm off to bed cause a lot of you are lying to yourself or just foolish and I won't entertain such talk. :lol:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Letters

Sure. Although I think RvP has to be fair. They're offering him more money but they're also offering him greater prospects for success.

---

Well that's the thing, my definition of 'success' might differ, to his.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

I'm so sick of the obsession with trophies in truth. I mean I know trophies are important in football and of course I want Arsenal to win them but it seems to be something that overrides anything else a player should consider.

---

Not sure about that but it would be another factor, wouldn't it?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Letters

Not sure about that but it would be another factor, wouldn't it?

---

Who for? If it's me and I was at Arsenal and I still have exactly the same personality that I do now, then no, it wouldn't.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It's not about quality of life. It's about your value. Nobody here would accept a job paying less than minimum wage, nobody here would be happy if your being paid the least compared to your colleagues or counterparts even if your happy as larry on that original wage. You'd have to question why you're not worth the same as the rest of your peers. We can go around in circles all day with this one but I'm off to bed cause a lot of you are lying to yourself or just foolish and I won't entertain such talk. :lol:

---

actually thats bollocks, ive worked on jobs where i get paid fuck all but i love it and carry on, i didnt give a fuck who got more money then me because i enjoyed it. if you are on 90k a week and happy then who the fuck cares if someone else has more money. if i was at the club i supported as a child on 90k a week i would be fucking delighting and not give a fuck about the others

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

Who for? If it's me and I was at Arsenal and I still have exactly the same personality that I do now, then no, it wouldn't.

---

OK, but you're an Arsenal fan. RvP may have been one when he was a kid but I doubt he was obsessed with Arsenal as most English fans are. In that sense you can't compare yourself with him and his decision.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

I'm so sick of the obsession with trophies in truth. I mean I know trophies are important in football and of course I want Arsenal to win them but it seems to be something that overrides anything else a player should consider.

---

well, you could be robbie savage and have your tag on bbc one saying 'made 600 premier league appearances'; while stting next to keane who has ridiculous superlatives in his tag.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by gooners

well, you could be robbie savage and have your tag on bbc one saying 'made 600 premier league appearances'; while stting next to keane who has ridiculous superlatives in his tag.

---

Well I wouldn't be happy sitting next to him because he is a psycho, not because of what he has won!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

I'd take more in to consideration than just the wages, personally. It's a bit nebulous because I wouldn't have a predisposed attachment with a company like I do for Arsenal.

---

So you'd accept PHW, Stan and co making massive profits, lapping up the bonuses and doing very little to invest in the squad while you're earning less than your counterparts and not winning silverware? I think that would start to take it's toll on any man.