Good Bye RVP!

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Then you are very foolish. :lol:

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Not really. I could earn more in the private sector in the job I do but I like the people I work with, like the laid back atmosphere and I'm comfortable enough financially. Yeah, you can always have more money but if you're on footballer wages that's not an issue. There are issues of feeling valued and 'market rate' but what the hell does that mean any more with clubs like Chelsea and City around who don't operate in the real world anyway? The prospect of trophies is a factor too of course.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

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Its different in football.

Now if I could leave my current job for a job offering to double my salary knowing that although the increase in expectations on me due to the salary increase, wouldnt effect my position as I was under "contract" and regardless of my performance I wouldnt get sacked becasue I have a "contract" for 4 years, and if in the likelihood they did want me gone, but I'd also have the luxury of my current employers arranging meetings with rival companies to get me into another "contract"....I'd move to whoever was paying the most too, however in the real world of real work that doesnt happen.

So yeah, it's different.

Bottom line is though...he's gone and I love seeing new players of quality at the club and I think we have brought 3 players (from what I have seen) of quality. Yes we have lost RvC but he wasnt motivated to stay and if these reports coming through now that he said to Cesc he was off and had been talking to Man U from Jan then I think that wraps it up...we can close this thread, but even if it isnt true, we got a game on Saturday and I'm feeling to buy a the new top because I dont support RvC and I dont feel for him in anyway...Im not trying to understand his turmoil of feeling he should be getting paid what the best in the world should be getting paid by his current club that, out of 8 season, had only had 1 decent return.

Again in my world If I underperformed for 7 years and my employers stuck with me (which they wouldnt) and continued to renew my "contract" thus keeping me secure (which they wouldnt) and in my 8th year I finally lived up to the potential my employees believed I had and theyd double my wages I'd be laughing, but there is no way they'd do that. They'd say if you can get it elsewhere then so be it, but that new company may not show the faith we had in you allowing you to under perform while not sacking you...and I'd understand their stance and i'd possibly take less for more security.

It's different in football

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Originally Posted by Letters

Not really. I could earn more in the private sector in the job I do but I like the people I work with, like the laid back atmosphere and I'm comfortable enough financially. Yeah, you can always have more money but if you're on footballer wages that's not an issue. There are issues of feeling valued and 'market rate' but what the hell does that mean any more with clubs like Chelsea and City around who don't operate in the real world anyway? The prospect of trophies is a factor too of course.

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Your comfortable and happy. RVP and many other players aren't. It's not a happy environment, so why put up with it? If you're company flat at refused to invest in computers and insisted on using out of date software and hardware, wouldn't that grind your gears? Wouldn't it piss you off on a daily if you keep missing deadlines and targets because of this problem, you voice it every meeting, colleagues say the same as well but the management staff do nothing to resolve the issue? This is where we are with Arsenal. The new kids on the block are happy as larry to be here but if we have the same problems in 10 years time, we'll see the same sort of turnover.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...new-No-10.html

So Wilshere gets the number 10...interesting!!

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Originally Posted by Newguy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...new-No-10.html

So Wilshere gets the number 10...interesting!!

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If you were an ITK like me you would've known that hours ago.

To-morrow, Wenger has called a press-conference ahead of the game against Sunderland.

More ITK news coming soon.

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Originally Posted by Newguy

Its different in football.

Now if I could leave my current job for a job offering to double my salary knowing that although the increase in expectations on me due to the salary increase, wouldnt effect my position as I was under "contract" and regardless of my performance I wouldnt get sacked becasue I have a "contract" for 4 years, and if in the likelihood they did want me gone, but I'd also have the luxury of my current employers arranging meetings with rival companies to get me into another "contract"....I'd move to whoever was paying the most too, however in the real world of real work that doesnt happen.

So yeah, it's different.

Bottom line is though...he's gone and I love seeing new players of quality at the club and I think we have brought 3 players (from what I have seen) of quality. Yes we have lost RvC but he wasnt motivated to stay and if these reports coming through now that he said to Cesc he was off and had been talking to Man U from Jan then I think that wraps it up...we can close this thread, but even if it isnt true, we got a game on Saturday and I'm feeling to buy a the new top because I dont support RvC and I dont feel for him in anyway...Im not trying to understand his turmoil of feeling he should be getting paid what the best in the world should be getting paid by his current club that, out of 8 season, had only had 1 decent return.

Again in my world If I underperformed for 7 years and my employers stuck with me (which they wouldnt) and continued to renew my "contract" thus keeping me secure (which they wouldnt) and in my 8th year I finally lived up to the potential my employees believed I had and theyd double my wages I'd be laughing, but there is no way they'd do that. They'd say if you can get it elsewhere then so be it, but that new company may not show the faith we had in you allowing you to under perform while not sacking you...and I'd understand their stance and i'd possibly take less for more security.

It's different in football

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Football's different but we're all human. Everyone on here has come on at some point to express complete frustration at the lack of ambition this club has shown. The players are frustrated as well. Regardless of who it is, Cesc, RVP, Ade, Henry...it's the same story because the club hasn't changed hasn't changed their policy. 7 years running and we're discussing the same problems. Again, I hope this is the last summer we have like this because I trend has to be broken.

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Wenger has never sold a player to United boss Alex Ferguson but, after the £24million deal was agreed, he told Eurosport’s parent station TF1: “To strengthen an enemy is the other negative point of this loss.

“We wanted to avoid it, but we couldn’t. Honestly, I’d rather sell him abroad, to Paris Saint-Germain for example.

“Manchester United know him and know his qualities. He’s really an exceptional player, believe me.”

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...thened-1264840

Actually, this link is better, more quotes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...eign-club.html

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Originally Posted by Newguy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...new-No-10.html

So Wilshere gets the number 10...interesting!!

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Not really considering he's six feet under.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Football's different but we're all human. Everyone on here has come on at some point to express complete frustration at the lack of ambition this club has shown. The players are frustrated as well. Regardless of who it is, Cesc, RVP, Ade, Henry...it's the same story because the club hasn't changed hasn't changed their policy. 7 years running and we're discussing the same problems. Again, I hope this is the last summer we have like this because I trend has to be broken.

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From Van Persie's perspective, we obviously had a fighting chance to compete at the top if he had stayed. Last season he was sold short and the squad wasn't at the level we could compete. But this year could've been different if he had decided to stay. So don't buy his ambition bullshit at all.

He wanted to fuck off and released a disingenuous statement to try and protect his hero status. It backfired, now he's a ****. On we go.