Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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13-05-2016, 01:55 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

I dont believe what agents say

http://www.espnfc.us/story/2412364/p...izio-zamparini

Zamparini had been saying we were interested for months. Dybala wanted to join Juve.

Maybe he was trying to drive the price up, you just said you don't believe the Dortmund director either, so why would you believe this guy?
13-05-2016, 01:57 PM
mastermind84

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Originally Posted by Özim

Maybe he was trying to drive the price up, you just said you don't believe the Dortmund director either, so why would you believe this guy?

fair point

idk , just too many stories and we sent scouts to watch him a lot.

I think we were after him but Juve wanted him so that was it.
13-05-2016, 02:01 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

fair point

idk , just too many stories and we sent scouts to watch him a lot.

I think we were after him but Juve wanted him so that was it.

It's certainly possible, problem is with us is you never really know what the truth is, the only thing you do know is that we drag our heels and more often than not leave ourselves short, that's the reason I have no confidence is us suddenly identifying a problem area and signing someone, it's never that simple for us it seems.
13-05-2016, 02:07 PM
mastermind84

Wenger pretty much confirming the Xhaka rumor (granted from a couple of days ago)

https://twitter.com/Onefootball/stat...37176928899072
13-05-2016, 02:17 PM
Power n Glory

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastermind84

I dont believe what agents say

http://www.espnfc.us/story/2412364/p...izio-zamparini

Zamparini had been saying we were interested for months. Dybala wanted to join Juve.

Wenger also denied knowing who Santi Cazorla was. I learned a long time ago to not believe a word he says in the media. Especially over transfers.

I think Dybala just had his heart set on Juve.

I get it completely. Too many credible people are saying we got him.

you get that midfielder to get the best out of your best players. WHen Xhaka arrives, you will see why Coquelin just wasnt the right player to start for us. HE is poor in buildup and it forced Ramsey to sit deep to compensate for that, while also getting up in attack. IMO, Wenger gave him too much responsibility but we are a better side when Ramsey plays. SHoot, we been better since he came back from injury.

And I ideally would go with a 433, but yeah having 3 CMs on the pitch gives us better balance. We will defend much better. We did defend better with Ramsey on the right.

And go back to what I said, I don't want Sanchez gone. I want him ideally playing CF because he is a great finisher. But unlike a lot of our fans, I see his flaws and see how he messes up our side tactically when he decides to pop up all over the pitch. He also runs a lot, but isnt the best defender on the flank. (Bellerin's form has suffered because of that)

Showing interest in a player doesn't mean we made an official bid. The link you've used says nothing about a bid or how much, so it's not clear. It all just goes back to the original point of how far we'll go to get our target and convince a player that we're the right choice.
13-05-2016, 02:25 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

I don't think Elneny is an ambitious player at all. I actually feel our fans overrate him.

There is no point in buying Xhaka if you don't let him play it forward and utilize his passing range. We don't have anyone on our team who has his passing range.

Sure he was, by comparison. At least when he arrived. He's only over-rated because like Chambers, Chamberlain, Walcott and the rest, when they first arrive they still have a hangover from the last club and coupled with wanting to make an impression for their new club they can actually look half decent. But they soon learn how to cruise at 50% effort like all the rest.

Don't underestimate Wenger's ability to fuck things up. He could easily buy a player with certain attributes and then stick that player in a role that undermines those attributes. He does it all the time. You wait, if this isn't just a ploy to sell season tickets. Xhaka will soon be passing sideways like the rest of them. I have zero faith in this manager's ability to build a team.
13-05-2016, 02:37 PM
mastermind84

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Showing interest in a player doesn't mean we made an official bid. The link you've used says nothing about a bid or how much, so it's not clear. It all just goes back to the original point of how far we'll go to get our target and convince a player that we're the right choice.

why bid for a player who wants to go somewhere else?

bridge under the water, its over.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Sure he was, by comparison. At least when he arrived. He's only over-rated because like Chambers, Chamberlain, Walcott and the rest, when they first arrive they still have a hangover from the last club and coupled with wanting to make an impression for their new club they can actually look half decent. But they soon learn how to cruise at 50% effort like all the rest.

Don't underestimate Wenger's ability to fuck things up. He could easily buy a player with certain attributes and then stick that player in a role that undermines those attributes. He does it all the time. You wait, if this isn't just a ploy to sell season tickets. Xhaka will soon be passing sideways like the rest of them. I have zero faith in this manager's ability to build a team.

im not saying Wenger dont mess up things, I just dont think Elneny is the one you should be most upset about.

He looks the same player he was when he arrived.
13-05-2016, 02:47 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

why bid for a player who wants to go somewhere else?

bridge under the water, its over.

im not saying Wenger dont mess up things, I just dont think Elneny is the one you should be most upset about.

He looks the same player he was when he arrived.

You originally said we bid the same amount as Juve for him which supposedly proved we're willing to spend huge money on a young striker.
13-05-2016, 02:49 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

He did bid for Dybala. Bid as much as Juve did.

Dybala wanted to stay in Italy.

Martial, you serious? At the time, did you think it was a good idea to bid that much for him?

Yep. It's what you originally said.
13-05-2016, 03:12 PM
mastermind84

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Yep. It's what you originally said.

i know what i said originally.

I do think we chased him.

I remember reading that we did bid for him, and going by what Zamparini said.

If we didnt, we didnt, but I do believe we were pursuing him.

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