In one instance today he showed his class and frustration. We punted a clearance forward ozil control it dead just in the united half but tried to spread the play wide and woefully under hit the ball.
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In one instance today he showed his class and frustration. We punted a clearance forward ozil control it dead just in the united half but tried to spread the play wide and woefully under hit the ball.
That's fatigue.
When does Ozil usually under hit a ball? He doesn't. He has no energy in his legs. Hopefully Germany don't play him next week.
Yep El Clasico and the CL knockouts. This isn't a witch hunt against Mesut BTW because I love him, I think he's a special player. It's just I did read that he has a tendency to 'drift' in and out of games, especially the crunch/big games whatever you want to call them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
For a player who is new to this league he has racked up impressive numbers and performances, so I am not picking at his performances on the whole, I was just a bit disappointed with him today, I did expect more from him. I do agree with what others have said though, fatigue has played in his recent dip in performances.
Streets ahead of anyone else in this league.....
Lots of our now legends had slow starts to their Arsenal careers, so absolutely no doubt in my mind that he'll soon start putting in those 'GTFUO your seat and applaud' types of performances.
Needs a rest. He's not used to playing high intensity games every 3 days, in La Liga there's about 10 difficult games per season for RM, in the Prem there's 30.
Don't think he's up for much of the physical work but I certainly don't doubt his ability with the ball.
I would have taken him off rather than Cazorla.
I hope you aren't counting Bergkamp amongst those players, because he was pants throughout his Arsenal career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner
has looked tired over the last couple of games. Not helped by being played wide right/left with noone to pass to.
he often produced the goods against barcelona and in the CL not to mention for germany so this big games talk has no substance.
I do wish he drove with the bal a bit more though because he has that in his locker.
Before Bergkamps first goals against Southampton when he was written off as a flop, he showed more moments of genius than this Ozil has so far. Just goes to show how out of control the twiiter/podcast/sky sports hype machine is these days tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Indeed, judging a player after 2 and a bit months is far more sensible than looking at his career so far.
I know hes a good player, the only question is how good. For a start I dont see him being that matchwinning superstar player, the player that Bergkamp was for 2 years, Pires was in 01-02 and Henry was for 5+ years, and for £40m thats a shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Well we're top of the league with him here and we weren't when he wasn't. I don't really know why it should bother you how much we spent on him, we spent more overall last season for not much achievement within one season and clearly with the signing of him a lot has changed for the mentality of a lot of players. That's well worth the £42 million.
Pires in 01/02 was brilliant but that was his second season, I remember he was fairly written off for most of that season (00/01), it's what always happens - sign talented player, results falter slightly, all target them first in the search for answers to what happens in football, teams occasionally lose games.
Ozil + Suarez = Murder on the dance floor.
There was that one teo he played with Giroud that the Frenchman didnt quite get. Suarez would have burried it and that what you need in the big games, a match winner
I know Ozil will be a good player for us, but yeah this is entirely about the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
We still need that game-changing player and im not sure how motivated the club will be to do that after already given us a blockbuster signing. If he'd cost say £25m theyd be less likely to rest on their laurels thinking theyd ticked that box.
The club knows we're desperately short up front, Gazidis said that Giroud can't go the season alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
We have alot of money left spare from over the summer, spent around £32m net from a supposed £70m 'warchest'.
Now will the club spend it on a genuine world class striker in the mould of Suarez/Lewandowski ? Now thats what we don't know.
Wenger doesn’t start him on the flanks. He drifts into those positions to make space for himself. Ramsey played on the right, Cazorla on the left, Arteta, Flamini and Ozil in the middle. We missed Rosicky because even if starting on the right, he’ll find his way into the middle to cover the space Ozil drifts away from. I really have no idea how it’s going to work with Ozil. Wenger may need to shift Cazorla in the middle when Rosicky can’t play just so we get that balance. Or just play Ramsey there for crying out loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
I doubt that. Gazidis has already publically said that Giroud cannot hold the load throughout the season (even though somebody like Suarez would have played at the same time as him I reckon). It's not really in Wenger's make-up to neglect signing attacking players.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
Firstly Ozil has only been here for a couple of months. The price tag is irrelevant, he still needs time to adjust to the league just like anyone else. Almost every player starts off slowly in this league so why is it different for Ozil?
Secondly we're misusing him. Ozil's best ability is his vision. When we have a team with five CMs and a slow striker you're obviously not going to get the best out of him. It's like buying Sebastien Vettel and telling him to win a race with a mountain bike. Apart from Theo we have nobody that gets behind the opponent's backline, or even try to! That's something Wenger needs to address.
I said before we bought Ozil that we didn't need him and that we should invest in at least one winger or wide forward, as well as a striker. It was obvious to everyone that we needed reinforcements there. I'll give Wenger and Gazidis the benefit of the doubt and see what they do in January/next summer.
And if they do nothing? Will you sack them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
What? :blink:
When did I become the chairman? :unsure:
It reads like an ultimatum. I just wondered what the consequences were going to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Oh wait it doesn't.
Actually the winger point is a decent one and I think it needs to be addressed. He went for Bernard so he obviously knows we lack another winger. I know we have a lot of wingers out but Pod looks like a cross between winger/striker, and Chambo gets injured a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Gnabry has come on a couple of times and changed our game for the better. With CM's out wide we lack any real pace and width. I hope he's thinking about buying one although someone like Suarez could play off the left with Giroud up top. Maybe that's what he prefers.
we went and spent 40 million on a genuine world class player and some people are moaning? jesus christ
I for one, welcome our new Overlord. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
The Independent today said that Moyes was justified in not signing Ozil based on yesterdays performance.
Ignoring the fact Ozil was ill, this is the same united who earlier in the season went 2 months without scoring from open play. our media are stupid
Reading that has just pissed me off! I really hope we prove a lot of people wrong this year.
I wouldn't worry about the media, they are in the "we told you so", stage regarding Arsenal at the moment. They'll seamlessly transit into the "we told you first, Arsenal will win it", stage when it becomes necessary. For me, every day the Daily Mail isn't running a picture of their entire staff sucking the queen's tits is a good (and unexpected) day.
I just read that article. It is so packed full of drivel it would stand out as embarrassing on Redcafe.
I've deliberately avoided most media outlets today, it was incredibly obvious they were waiting for us to slip up to continue the narrative they have created for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfTANf9EDeY
Just saw this :bow:
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Originally Posted by Munchies
ludicrous amount of chances he's created, that have simply been wasted by inept finishing
IMO - Ozil is difficult to categorize. With his price tag, IMO people are entitled to point out that in terms of individuality he has underwhelmed (with his reputation, I can understand the argument that he hasn't so far been an obvious solo game-changer). But - and this is important - he has been an incredible catalyst for our team in a number of ways. First there are his assists. Undoubtedly, he has turned the result of a number of our games simply by providing one or two sublime passes - even if he has otherwise been fairly anonymous. Secondly, he has given our whole team a lift simply by joining us. He has made our players believe that we can be winners, and that our team and manager have ambition.
Most importantly - he has clearly inspired our other players. Lets make no mistake, for the last few years we have had the talent - but we have been characterised by not fulfilling our potential. Suddenly, we are doing so, and the likes of Ramsey; Giroud; Rosicky and now Wilshere are flourishing and playing to their potential. In a sense, lifting the other players in a team is even more important than being an individual game changer in the mold of a Rooney, a Bale or a Suarez. Football is a team game, and wherever Ozil goes from here, IMO he has been the catalyst for our team. That alone justifies his purchase.
a real inspiration, frustrating sometimes but just pure quality when he's on it. definitely happy we have him
The role arouses interesting debate. I think this is ideally how the role is to be played in a 433 in the game as it is now. I think what has worked against Podolski is Wenger's reservations about his fitness but the beauty of the role to my mind is really the scope to transition from provider/supplier to finisher.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Robben does it well for Munich.
As things have sharpened up he has become almost anonymous when not 'on it' and doesn't seem to have been on it for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
This isn't a gripe at the player - but most teams spending 42M would be entitled to expect a game changer - the quality player that makes a difference when you need him. Ain't seeing much of that yet, if I'm honest.
Yep, I said this the other week and a few posters jumped down my throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Ozil is a great player but...I don't really ever think he's going to be running games for us or be seen as a dominant force, he certainly won't be dominating the big games IMHO.
I think once he settles down and gets used to PL and the team, he will efficiently go about his business and provide a platform for others to shine.
Ozil is not enough for this team to make the jump from challengers to winners, I think at the very least we need a striker of Ozil's calibre to see the best out of Ozil and Arsenal as a team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh-k7Lt-FVw
Assuming that's everything so far, he has 9 assists and 5 goals. He has also made numerous chances that haven't been taken. On the whole I remain pleased with signing him. Now, as to his affect on the team, it appears evident that Özil is not the sort of player who will boss a game and dictate it from midfield. For what we paid for him, this seems a little disappointing. However, as a wise man* once said, "all the pieces matter"; Özil just creates chances, it's what he does. That's what his role in the team is. We need other players to supplement this ability, just as other players will flourish if they have someone like Özil constantly making the passes that lead to goals. I remember when AC Milan were dangerous a few years ago that their success was largely based on the combination of Pirlo and Kaka. Kaka mostly took the plaudits but his effectiveness was dependent on Pirlo dictating the pace of the game slightly further back.
*Lester Freeman, in The Wire, top show, btw
Arsenal playmaker Mesut Ozil wins Germany player of the year award
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...d-9047409.html
Cannot be! He's not been good enough for Arsenal. Must be what he did in Madrid... :d
The thing about Ozil, his price tag and the according level of expectation is that most teams who spend in that region for a player, are usually buying a centre a forward. A centre forward at that price is usually a proven goal scorer. Even if he doesn't get a single assist, most will be happy because of his goal record.
Consequently Ozil is going to get compared to some of the best forwards in the world even though he isn't one himself. I agree to an extent that he will ostensibly be appearing to justify the price tag once we have one or two players in the team that are clinical with their chances.