Good Bye RVP!

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

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Not impressed with him issuing a public statement - massively weakens our negotiating position.

Let's get the deal done with city and move on. Take the £20million or whatever we can get and invest in Fellaini please wenger.

He'll go to City, and if he does the fans will treat him like a mercenary.

If he goes abroad, the fans will have some apathy towards him.

Oh and from my sig, the tosser from Talk sport was right :lol:

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Originally Posted by RomfordPele

Not impressed with him issuing a public statement - massively weakens our negotiating position.

Let's get the deal done with city and move on. Take the £20million or whatever we can get and invest in Fellaini please wenger.

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I'd rather take the £8m from Juventus.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

I'd rather take the £8m from Juventus.

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me too

cheers for last season robin - that covered your transfer fee at least. good luck wherever you go.

At the end of the day, he was our captain so him leaving was inevitable.

I believe our new captain should be Mister Chamakh.

I agree. I just cant believe the way fans on here slag off Wenger and the board the whole season and then when RVP does the inevitable he is slaughtered. I have no sympathy for the board - they have one of the world's richest men itching to get on and yet they dont wanna know. I also t hink that RVP ( like Fabregas) knows that Wenger is a busted flush and we wont win anything major again under him

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I hope this is a wake up call for you about how the club is run and our ambition. You can't of our best players walk out every summer and still believe it's because of the players, the problem is at the club and until things change I see this continuing.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Valmer

Oh well. Bit of a shame but we've been used to this most summers now (a major player leaving). Hopefully we'll get a minimum of 20 million and re-invest that into the squad.

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We won't get anything near that for him.

The Club need to make it clear (and stick to it) that either he is seeing out his contract or get him out the door immediately. We just can't have the same shit we had last year.

Because of his injury record and his age, his value is nowhere near the sums a lot of people believe. This in a perverse way is good for the Club because there is less to lose financially by making him see his contract out.

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Originally Posted by Joker

Perhaps we'd have half a chance of winning the Champions League 2 seasons ago if he didn't get sent off by being a **** against Barca (the first yellow card was pure petulance even if you think the second was soft).

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The 2nd one wasn't 'soft', it was farcical, possibly corrupt. You're cherry picking a few bad games here and there to support an argument which doesn't stack up. There is absolutely no way we'd have finished top 4 last year without him. Can we do so without him? It'll be tough but the new signings are good and we've got time to make more signings so we've got a chance.

The new signings did worry me. I hoped they were an attempt to show Robin we're trying to show a bit of ambition but I feared they were because we knew he was going. Part of me thinks we should keep him this year. We won't get loads for him anyway, I don't think he'll sulk his way through the season and I think we'll qualify for the CL next season with him which would be worth more than we'd get for him anyway. It also buys us time to think about more replacements. But the mood on here suggests his position would be difficult. That said, we are a load of fickle twats - a couple of goals and we'd be singing his name again.

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Originally Posted by GB.

We won't get anything near that for him.

The Club need to make it clear (and stick to it) that either he is seeing out his contract or get him out the door immediately. We just can't have the same shit we had last year.

Because of his injury record and his age, his value is nowhere near the sums a lot of people believe. This in a perverse way is good for the Club because there is less to lose financially by making him see his contract out.

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He needs to go now, and he needs to go abroad.

How will our team shape up now we know he's going ? Podolski to take his position ?

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Originally Posted by Letters

The 2nd one wasn't 'soft', it was farcical, possibly corrupt. You're cherry picking a few bad games here and there to support an argument which doesn't stack up. There is absolutely no way we'd have finished top 4 last year without him. Can we do so without him? It'll be tough but the new signings are good and we've got time to make more signings so we've got a chance.

The new signings did worry me. I hoped they were an attempt to show Robin we're trying to show a bit of ambition but I feared they were because we knew he was going. Part of me thinks we should keep him this year. We won't get loads for him anyway, I don't think he'll sulk his way through the season and I think we'll qualify for the CL next season with him which would be worth more than we'd get for him anyway. It also buys us time to think about more replacements. But the mood on here suggests his position would be difficult. That said, we are a load of fickle twats - a couple of goals and we'd be singing his name again.

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His position is untenable. The sole purpose of his statement today is to force a move.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

How will our team shape up now we know he's going ? Podolski to take his position ?

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Giroud. Podolski on the left.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

Giroud. Podolski on the left.

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Hopefully Podolski is decent there, at the Euros he looked shite.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

His position is untenable. The sole purpose of his statement today is to force a move.

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Agree with the 2nd part of that, not sure about the first.
You go to games, you know how fickle people are. He bangs in a couple of goals and people will soon be cheering for him.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

Hopefully Podolski is decent there, at the Euros he looked shite.

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So did van Persie tbh, he's got a good record overall, he's obviously a decent enough player.

Well I think he is worth at least twenty million i really do. Hes one of the worlds top players and 29 is no age these days. I am sure we will sell him - the board are much too stingy to hold onto him. I agree with you that it was obvious that he was going - we would never have bought two strikers close season like that. I think its a huge loss - without him last season we would have come near the bottom there's no doubt about that. HE probably sat down and said to the board that we needed five or six real quality players and the board refused to commit.

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Originally Posted by Letters

The 2nd one wasn't 'soft', it was farcical, possibly corrupt. You're cherry picking a few bad games here and there to support an argument which doesn't stack up. There is absolutely no way we'd have finished top 4 last year without him. Can we do so without him? It'll be tough but the new signings are good and we've got time to make more signings so we've got a chance.

The new signings did worry me. I hoped they were an attempt to show Robin we're trying to show a bit of ambition but I feared they were because we knew he was going. Part of me thinks we should keep him this year. We won't get loads for him anyway, I don't think he'll sulk his way through the season and I think we'll qualify for the CL next season with him which would be worth more than we'd get for him anyway. It also buys us time to think about more replacements. But the mood on here suggests his position would be difficult. That said, we are a load of fickle twats - a couple of goals and we'd be singing his name again.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Agree with the 2nd part of that, not sure about the first.
You go to games, you know how fickle people are. He bangs in a couple of goals and people will soon be cheering for him.

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I'm not sure. There's a fair amount of resentment right now.

I don't think he'll kick another ball for us anyway, so it's a moo point.

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Originally Posted by Letters

The 2nd one wasn't 'soft', it was farcical, possibly corrupt. You're cherry picking a few bad games here and there to support an argument which doesn't stack up. There is absolutely no way we'd have finished top 4 last year without him. Can we do so without him? It'll be tough but the new signings are good and we've got time to make more signings so we've got a chance.

The new signings did worry me. I hoped they were an attempt to show Robin we're trying to show a bit of ambition but I feared they were because we knew he was going. Part of me thinks we should keep him this year. We won't get loads for him anyway, I don't think he'll sulk his way through the season and I think we'll qualify for the CL next season with him which would be worth more than we'd get for him anyway. It also buys us time to think about more replacements. But the mood on here suggests his position would be difficult. That said, we are a load of fickle twats - a couple of goals and we'd be singing his name again.

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If you look at his goalscoring record against the top teams, and compare it to players like Rooney, Drogba etc, you'll see how inferior it is. Yes, last season he did score a hattrick against Chelsea and against United, but look back over 8 seasons and you'll realise he's got this uncanny knack of disappearing when we most need him. If you want more evidence, look at his goalscoring record for the Netherlands. Mostly, it's +1s against poor sides like Andorra. In the World Cup 2010, he was totally ineffective against Brazil, Uruguay and Spain and Slovakia, all the knockout phase games. The guy can't do it when the pressure's on, and he'll be found out wherever he goes. I said the same thing after the 8-2 defeat against United, when he missed the penalty which would have levelled the game.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Agree with the 2nd part of that, not sure about the first.
You go to games, you know how fickle people are. He bangs in a couple of goals and people will soon be cheering for him.

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he is dutch though, so therefore a ****. not sure how beneficial it would be to have a moody sod dragging his heels around the place. sell him if we can - the amount doesn't matter, we'll make our money back.

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Originally Posted by Joker

If you look at his goalscoring record against the top teams, and compare it to players like Rooney, Drogba etc, you'll see how inferior it is.

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Can you post the stats? I remember he scored a hat-trick against Chelsea last year and the winner against Liverpool (debatable whether they're a top team tbf)

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

he is dutch though, so therefore a ****. not sure how beneficial it would be to have a moody sod dragging his heels around the place. sell him if we can - the amount doesn't matter, we'll make our money back.

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I wouldn't be at all beneficial. I'm giving RvP a bit of credit and thinking he won't spend a season sulking up the place. I may be wrong.

Agree with GP though, it's moo. I don't think he'll play for us again.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Can you post the stats? I remember he scored a hat-trick against Chelsea last year and the winner against Liverpool (debatable whether they're a top team tbf)

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Just.

Maybe.

Once.

No.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Can you post the stats? I remember he scored a hat-trick against Chelsea last year and the winner against Liverpool (debatable whether they're a top team tbf)

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These are the goals I remember him scoring against the "top" sides (I include Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham in that list)

04-05:
Didn't score against any of the above.

05-06
Didn't score against any of the above.

06-07
Scored at home against United.

07-08
Didn't score against any of the above.

08-09
Scored at home against Liverpool, at home against United in the UCL semi final (pointless penalty).

09-10
Scored 2 at home against Tottenham.

10-11
Scored against Liverpool at home, against Tottenham away.

11-12

Scored against United home and away, a hattrick against Chelsea away, against Tottenham at home, and 2 goals against Liverpool away.

So, apart from last season, his scoring record against the best sides isn't anything to write home about.

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Originally Posted by jelgoon

Well I think he is worth at least twenty million i really do.

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I hope you are the Chairman of a major football club.

Sadly you probably aren't.

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Originally Posted by Joker

These are the goals I remember him scoring against the "top" sides (I include Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham in that list)

04-05:
Didn't score against any of the above.

05-06
Didn't score against any of the above.

06-07
Scored at home against United.

07-08
Didn't score against any of the above.

08-09
Scored at home against Liverpool, at home against United in the UCL semi final (pointless penalty).

09-10
Scored 2 at home against Tottenham.

10-11
Scored against Liverpool at home, against Tottenham away.

11-12

Scored against United home and away, a hattrick against Chelsea away, against Tottenham at home, and 2 goals against Liverpool away.

So, apart from last season, his scoring record against the best sides isn't anything to write home about.

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Those aren't stats.

Back up an argument.

For once.

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Emmanuel Eboue ‏@TheRealEboue
@Persie_Official why why why ! Why have you left wenger to suffer another loss again. You would never be the same if you leave. Stay pls

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Emmanuel Eboue ‏@TheRealEboue
@Persie_Official has an injury free season for the 1st time . Score a lot of goals and now he is running away. #USERS .

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Emmanuel Eboue ‏@TheRealEboue
When @Persie_Official has injury and couldn't play. He didn't say he wanted to go . Oh well , I lost my respect for you captain.

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eboue is a legend :bow:

If we'd thought RVP was going to sign we'd have never signed two strikers, one maybe but never too. There were other areas of the team that needed strenghtening and with Podolski and RVP up front we would have been fine there.

He wasn't try to force a move, we knew we were going to sell him, there was nothing to force.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

eboue is a legend :bow:

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God damn, I want that guy's (Eboue's) baby!

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

If we'd thought RVP was going to sign we'd have never signed two strikers, one maybe but never too. There were other areas of the team that needed strenghtening and with Podolski and RVP up front we would have been fine there.

He wasn't try to force a move, we knew we were going to sell him, there was nothing to force.

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apart from the fact he has now made us accept any bid for him rather then get decent money. he asked for ambition, we gave him that. he was forced us to sell him at whatever bid comes in because he has made it clear he cannot stay at our club. ****

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

eboue is a legend :bow:

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:lol:, Fake but knowing Eboue it sounds real !

Fuck it, he's a bad kick away from the glue factory anyway. Suspect we got the best out of him this season so it may be a blessing in disguise.

Makes the club look like an absolute laughing stock again though. Gazidis really has to go.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

eboue is a legend :bow:

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Damn, and I thought Eboue has already maxed out on the awesome chart! :D

We were never going to get huge bids in any case.

If he was 26, no injury record and had the season he just had, the bid would have been stratospheric. But last point apart, none of that is the case. It ought to be easy for us if we want him to see out his contract because financially, there is little to lose.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

'A statement for the fans'

Bollocks.

Not happy because the club doesn't sign players.

The club sign 2 high quality players

Not happy with the players signed.

Lying shitbag.

Robin, you're a cunt

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He was bound to make a statement because the club put a gag on him during the Euros and tried to leak stories suggesting it was about matching Man City's wages. This is his defence and if he'd have stayed silent and left without an explanation, you'd still accuse him of leaving for higher wages and being a ****. He can't win. Not with us anyway! :lol:

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Originally Posted by GB.

Those aren't stats.

Back up an argument.

For once.

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Fine, in the Premiership he's scored 13 goals against the top sides, and given that he's played 8 seasons, he'd have played at most 64 games. Obviously he hasn't played against all the top 4 sides in all seasons, so let's say he's missed 10 matches. Then his games:goal ratio is 4, which is hardly world class is it?

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Originally Posted by GB.

We were never going to get huge bids in any case.

If he was 26, no injury record and had the season he just had, the bid would have been stratospheric. But last point apart, none of that is the case. It ought to be easy for us if we want him to see out his contract because financially, there is little to lose.

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Agree.. we should either get a big bid or let him see out his contract. I just fucking hope Wenger doesnt go on a hunger strike to let one of his 'son' go on the cheap ala Cesc.

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Originally Posted by Joker

Fine, in the Premiership he's scored 13 goals against the top sides, and given that he's played 8 seasons, he'd have played at most 64 games. Obviously he hasn't played against all the top 4 sides in all seasons, so let's say he's missed 10 matches. Then his games:goal ratio is 4, which is hardly world class is it?

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Lets just say you get the stats.

Frimpong is gonna kill him.