Winter Transfer Speculation

Adebayor was a fabulous striker in his prime. The way he moved and the speed of his brain and his feet, the constant forward momentum, it gelled perfectly with our team at the time. I loved the way he could dip a shoulder and send the defender 180 degrees the wrong way while pushing the ball on instantly. But then he became a big time charlie, like Yaya Toure. And it all went to fuck. The fact he was converted from a "where will he play" defender, winger to a striker is one of Wenger's rare successes. But if you are an arsehole then you are an arsehole and nothing is going to save you from that. Now he's cancer, hire him and you'll pay the price twice. Like Balotelli.

The guy had a touch of a rapist, never was a natural finisher and wasted a lot of chances. If you think Giroud and Walcott were bad, Ade was up there with them for sitters. He was just lucky enough to play with a team that carved teams open for fun. Never scored 30 goals before us and never scored 30 after. There was no evidence of a bad attitude in his first seasons for City or Spurs. Seemed focused and motivated but couldn't come close to scoring 30. Says it all. He was never a top talent. Wenger elevated his game to make it seem as if he was. Our style suited him.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The guy had a touch of a rapist, never was a natural finisher and wasted a lot of chances. If you think Giroud and Walcott were bad, Ade was up there with them for sitters. He was just lucky enough to play with a team that carved teams open for fun. Never scored 30 goals before us and never scored 30 after. There was no evidence of a bad attitude in his first seasons for City or Spurs. Seemed focused and motivated but couldn't come close to scoring 30. Says it all. He was never a top talent. Wenger elevated his game to make it seem as if he was. Our style suited him.

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Watch him play in his second season for us, compared to the static Giroud and the hapless, random Walcott. Not saying he was as good as RvP or even in the top tier but he was way, way better than Giroud or Walnut. I mean let's not even bring Walnut into this, he's one of the worst players we've ever had. Turns up 5 games a season, if we are lucky.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Watch him play in his second season for us, compared to the static Giroud and the hapless, random Walcott. Not saying he was as good as RvP or even in the top tier but he was way, way better than Giroud or Walnut. I mean let's not even bring Walnut into this, he's one of the worst players we've ever had. Turns up 5 games a season, if we are lucky.

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I'm not debating that. Because he had power, pace, the physique and a team that kept supplying, it helped cover up his shortcomings. If he were slow like Giroud he'd have no chance. You forget the sitters he'd miss and the amount of chances he needed to score. Far from clinical and his technique was average.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The guy had a touch of a rapist, never was a natural finisher and wasted a lot of chances. If you think Giroud and Walcott were bad, Ade was up there with them for sitters. He was just lucky enough to play with a team that carved teams open for fun. Never scored 30 goals before us and never scored 30 after. There was no evidence of a bad attitude in his first seasons for City or Spurs. Seemed focused and motivated but couldn't come close to scoring 30. Says it all. He was never a top talent. Wenger elevated his game to make it seem as if he was. Our style suited him.

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Adebayor became a very good finisher as his career went onward. He could have grown more here. His touch was good too. Not great

And he was MUCH better than Giroud and Walcott. Not even close lol. Shoot, if he wasnt a nut job now, I wouldnt mind taking him back.

Can you imagine Adebayor with Ozil and Sanchez behind him, ffs. We would be leading the league right now by a few points.

He was a top talent who had a weak mindset.

You make fun of Adebayor all you want and say he wasnt a top player, but the talent was not deniable at all. And he wasnt scoring tap-ins either, ffs.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I'm not debating that. Because he had power, pace, the physique and a team that kept supplying, it helped cover up his shortcomings. If he were slow like Giroud he'd have no chance. You forget the sitters he'd miss and the amount of chances he needed to score. Far from clinical and his technique was average.

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if Drogba didnt have pace, power, physique he wouldnt have been a premier league player.

if Thierry Henry didnt have pace, power, physique, he wouldnt have been the best player in the world for a few seasons.

If Vieira didnt have pace, power, and physique he woulda been a nothing player.

If Giroud had pace he'd fit into our set up a lot better. He'd be a beast of a player. That's all I'm saying.

Henry and Vieria could pass and had great touches. Smart players as well. Henry's pace went later in his career but his touch, shooting, passing and intelligence remained.

Adebayor is a bum. Should we move on talk about the wonders of Hleb? Top premier league player. If only he had his head right. ;)

In fact, bum is a strong word. :lol: But I think this is a case of rose tinted glasses. NQ, I'm sure you can't remember the sitters be missed and if you think Theo was bad, this guy was worse. I remember the GW match threads where he's miss sitters. Ask Zim. You don't remember the times he'd go missing, drift to the flanks with little awareness of where he should be on the pitch or what he was like when his work rate dropped in games we needed him?

I'll give Wenger his chops when it comes to developing strikers and Ade is a product of Wenger. Never scored 30 goals again for anyone. In fact, never scored 20 goals before us or after us and some of you scoff at players like Benteke, Bony and Gomis. That's Adebayor's level but Wenger has talent for exploiting a strikers strength and masking the weakness. The fact that we're having this conversation is testament to that. Giroud is far from a top class player but Wenger somehow managed to get him into that conversation. He is great at getting the best out of strikers. Heck, he even had some people here fooled into thinking Chamakh was top class. :lol: That guy, of all people, managed a scoring run and some people were convinced he's be a good player. He might have been if not for RVP. I believe the same for Welbeck. If Wenger gave him a few seasons up top he'd look the part. But we haven't got time for that.

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

if Drogba didnt have pace, power, physique he wouldnt have been a premier league player.

if Thierry Henry didnt have pace, power, physique, he wouldnt have been the best player in the world for a few seasons.

If Vieira didnt have pace, power, and physique he woulda been a nothing player.

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That's rubbish, you'll find plenty of players without those three that were top PL players, Wright being one.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

In fact, bum is a strong word. :lol: But I think this is a case of rose tinted glasses. NQ, I'm sure you can't remember the sitters be missed and if you think Theo was bad, this guy was worse. I remember the GW match threads where he's miss sitters. Ask Zim. You don't remember the times he'd go missing, drift to the flanks with little awareness of where he should be on the pitch or what he was like when his work rate dropped in games we needed him?

I'll give Wenger his chops when it comes to developing strikers and Ade is a product of Wenger. Never scored 30 goals again for anyone. In fact, never scored 20 goals before us or after us and some of you scoff at players like Benteke, Bony and Gomis. That's Adebayor's level but Wenger has talent for exploiting a strikers strength and masking the weakness. The fact that we're having this conversation is testament to that. Giroud is far from a top class player but Wenger somehow managed to get him into that conversation. He is great at getting the best out of strikers. Heck, he even had some people here fooled into thinking Chamakh was top class. :lol: That guy, of all people, managed a scoring run and some people were convinced he's be a good player. He might have been if not for RVP. I believe the same for Welbeck. If Wenger gave him a few seasons up top he'd look the part. But we haven't got time for that.

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I'll vouch for that, Adebayor missed sitters regularly, his finishing was very hit and miss and his touch terrible at times, worse still he got caught offsdside a lot, in many cases inexcusably so, all he needed to do was look down the line but he failed to do so.

Had one good season with us and that's his career summed up really, a one season wonder, any half decent player will score goals for us because we create a lot of chances, had he been top class he'd have got far more than he got.

His one strength was getting himself into goalscoring positions, his finishing however was average.

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

Adebayor became a very good finisher as his career went onward. He could have grown more here. His touch was good too. Not great

And he was MUCH better than Giroud and Walcott. Not even close lol. Shoot, if he wasnt a nut job now, I wouldnt mind taking him back.

Can you imagine Adebayor with Ozil and Sanchez behind him, ffs. We would be leading the league right now by a few points.

He was a top talent who had a weak mindset.

You make fun of Adebayor all you want and say he wasnt a top player, but the talent was not deniable at all. And he wasnt scoring tap-ins either, ffs.



if Drogba didnt have pace, power, physique he wouldnt have been a premier league player.

if Thierry Henry didnt have pace, power, physique, he wouldnt have been the best player in the world for a few seasons.

If Vieira didnt have pace, power, and physique he woulda been a nothing player.

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