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I've seen goals where a 'keeper rolls the ball in front of them, a player hiding behind them nips round and knocks it in to the net and those have been given.
Maybe the issue was that the ball is in the air? To me that's in play so why isn't the goal given? But I think you're right they changed the rule - wasn't there something about hassling the 'keeper when they have the ball?
But rarely enforce Goalkeepers taking an age with goal kicks
I was even getting annoyed with David Raya doing it the other day
I read today that Odegaard may be out until December at least!
https://www.football.london/arsenal-...tmare-30121415
And, Saka limped off during the England game feeleing his hammy.
https://dailycannon.com/2024/10/arse...ngland-injury/
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https://x.com/UpFrontPod/status/1844324495500116042
I disagree that Wenger was not a footballing man, he was obsessed but in terms of his achievements at Arsenal it's hard to disagree with Souness here, he got very lucky. When the luck run out he was mediocre at best.
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Souness was an appalling football coach, this is a guy tricked into signing a player based on a hoax phone call from someone claiming to be George Weah. He was a disaster at every club because he was more interested in showing off his own “skill” in training sessions.
Guy is a complete moron
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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Now Martinelli has an injury!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/14/arsen...o=newsnow-feed
We should be able to stop players playing for their countries, it is a joke!
It seems these days that we only really get injuries when players go away on international duty.
I do wonder what the hell Wenger was doing back in the day.
It was more the kind of players, Henry for instance very rarely got injured. Where as some…Wilshere had ankles made of powderQuote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
I think Arteta places a lot of importance on robustness in a player. While Wenger would just keep players around because he may have liked their technical ability even though a lot of his squad for the second part of his reign were made up of players who were physically well short of the level required.
Yep, as I say Wilshere was key example of that. Shame really as I can’t remember any English player at Arsenal of his technical ability. But couldn’t stay fitQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Tommy out for another month.
Why didnt we sell this guy in the summer?
He is another wheelchair :(
Yep I think he will be out the door next summer with Timber and Calafiori establishing themselves.
What happened to Tommy this time? Broken finger nail? :sulk:
On the plus side it seems the Saka injury isn't serious, that said given the Shaktar game the following week I do hope Arteta does his best to rest him at the weekend
I hope that the Korean peninsular will be reunified in my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
The chance of either of our hopes coming to pass are probably at the same level of slim to none :lol:
he has rested him for one or two games lately, I think he may finally be learning...
This is interesting. Anfield '89 but it's the original ITV broadcast with some pre-match build up, half time analysis and even the adverts!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQochYDc6kI
I don’t want to piss on your bonfire (but I will) but that’s been on you tube for yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Bobby Robson doesn’t think we will get the 2-0 win
The first clue was when it said "8 years ago". I can also read.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I wasn't claiming it was new. I just hadn't seen it before, just because something exists that doesn't mean everyone has seen it.
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Don't think anyone did, I was on holiday in Bognor Regis Butlins on the day and had my Arsenal shirt on was walking along and a Liverpool fans was taking the piss telling me we have no chance. Later on after the match I see him can't remember what I said him too busy celebating but he told me too fook off I was only 14 :( how rude :lol: :scarf:Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I remember thinking we had a chance, but that was because I wasn't in to football enough to know how ridiculous that opinion was :lol:
I mean, you never know in football - as that demonstrated - but looking back it seems implausible.
It's funny looking back at how little time is given before and after the game to the coverage - now there would be hours either end.
Obviously now we have endless dedicated channels, ITV were already late for the news :lol:
I was 5 so my memory of 26th May 1989 is scant at best shall we say, I only have slightly clearer living memory of the 1990/1991 Title…and I think that was the Arsenal vs Man United game being on television and we had been confirmed champions before the game kicked off because Liverpool had lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
You’re right, it would have been an exceptionally brave pundit to pick us to win it. We hadn’t won at Anfield in something like ten years, Liverpool hadn’t lost at home by more than a one goal margin in three years. Everyone was backing Liverpool because of Hillsborough, they had the mo given they hadn’t lost since losing at Old Trafford in January. We’d lost at home to Derby and Forest and away at Coventry in that same period. And given we practically would have have had the title won if we’d won both our last two home games (lost to Derby, drew with Wimbledon) we’d have only needed a draw. Although ironically I think needing to win helped us because Liverpool didn’t quite know how to play it, were worried about coming forward too much even at 1-0 down.
That's the exact amount of consolation we'd have seen it as had we won on the last day but not won the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
It actually made for a dull game - not just that we needed to win but by 2 goals. We absolutely couldn't afford to go 1-0 down, that would have been a surely impossible mountain to climb.Quote:
Although ironically I think needing to win helped us because Liverpool didn’t quite know how to play it, were worried about coming forward too much even at 1-0 down.
Liverpool knew a draw was fine so they didn't want to concede either and then it be "next goal wins". So it was all very cagey.
Obviously the goal spiced things up a bit and the finale speaks for itself.
Still gives me chills watching that goal.
The nearest game I’ve seen to it was away at Bayern Munich where Bayern didn’t really know how to play it when we went there and we ended up winning 2-0 (unfortunately because of the away goal rule 2-0 wasn’t enough)
We did go through a phase of getting thumped in the first leg and then getting a heroic but ultimately futile result in the second :doh:
Edu is leaving the club
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...as-yet-unclear
Rrg. And was it the set piece coach who left recently? Does all seem to be falling apart somewhat.
Not great news considering how closely he has worked with Arteta and how effective the recruitment has been.
It’s all a bit shit right now isn’t it.
Dunno. The recruitment process has been at best a mixed bag, summer just gone was an utter shit show. Dont get me wrong, as I say repeatedly I genuinely like Calafiori….very good player I just question the necessity of the purchase given we clearly were working on a tight budget and had to bring money in. Merino? Fuck me he’s really atrocious. And less said about Sterling the better.
We are really lacking in depth in creative areas and we don’t have an out and out striker. That’s borderline negligence
And then you go back a few years, Jesus, Zinchenko, Vieira. You really have to ask yourself how good Edu actually was
No the set piece coach is still thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Jesus single-handedly pulled our collective socks up to challenge for the title the season before last - his injury at the Word Cup unfortunately was a huge set back from which neither he or Arsenal have ever really recoveredQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
obvs i agree 100% with Zin but that will have been an Arteta buy
And with Vieira I can see what they saw in him but for one reason or another it didn't work out
I do actually think we needed to strengthen the defence - look at how we're still struggling at LB for example
I think Merino was a response to Partey being more or less written off but now he's come back, is fit and playing well so that makes Merino look a little surplus to requirements but he's not as bad as you say.
The main failing, which I place at Arteta's door more than Edu, is failing to buy more firepower up front
Sterling is not a bad loan to add depth but we needed an additional goalscorer
Edu has always felt a bit weak IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I hope they recruit a very football-wise person who's capable of driving a hard deal and standing up to Arteta, rather than another yes-man
Yeah was going to say, Nicholas Jover is still hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
From what I can gather. Wilshere and Edu have left and that’s it.
Apparently the parents of Max Dowman who is supposed to be our next wonder kid, were upset over Wilshere departure because of good personal relationship between them, but people up and leave and get new jobs for all sorts of reasons.
Edu has been with us five years, it’s just possible that both he and the club have decided to go in different directions and it’s no bad thing to shake things up a bit.
This isn’t directed at you by the way, or indeed anyone else. I think the media like to create Drama though.
I think looking back at Jesus’ contribution to our title challenge, I think that claim is to say the least somewhat overstatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Jesus did ok for sure, but even at the beginning it was laughable how many chances he missed, and we were fortunate to have a triumvurate of Martinelli, Odegaard and Saka to help us.
As much as you won’t admit it, Zinchenko was also quite instrumental in making Martinelli a better player, in that Martinelli was operating in more space as a result of that. I think Calafiori when fit will provide just as much benefit to Martinelli without the defensive fuck ups and giving the ball away under no pressure.
I think Vieira always never looked physically strong enough for the premier league, always found it weird how someone reasonably short didn’t have a particularly good centre of gravity. I think technically very good, but never really showed much outside of pre-season games.
There aren’t many great out and out strikers, we don’t play a system where we employ a target man…in some ways might be better if we did…because I think Havertz is good with his head. I think ultimately you can see that Arteta wants to have the similar interchangeable front three that Liverpool had under Klopp and I must say I like that but it only works when you don’t try that ridiculous inverted full back system.
Sterling is completely and utterly burnt out, City knew this when they sold him to Chelsea I’m sure. He’s lost his electric pace and doesn’t have the strength to compensate.
Thia is worrying news. Edu has been a key part of our renaissance, and by all accounts works very well with Arteta and Josh Kroenke. More than that, it's strange that he would decide to leave if we are (as we all thought) on the brink of success. We seem to have lost our lustre this season, and this news won't help at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I don’t know what he’s actually like, but in that Amazon documentary I think Josh Kroenke came across like a moron, someone sent out to us to get him out of the way by his father.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
As for Edu I thought it was hilarious when talking about signing Tomiyasu when his own white board showed we had loads of options at right back already
Again don’t want to go on about what is only a Documentary, but I somehow strongly doubt that Edu leaving has anything to do with the last three league games.
Is Scrabble one of the events at that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76