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But no-one can be that certain, that's not how football worksQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I'm willing to bet if you'd been asked right at the beginning of the FAC campaign if Palace would win it you'd have said 'no chance', 'certainly not' etc
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Originally Posted by Mac76
So I’ve written how I felt about the match going into it and your response is to question it.
“Your feelings were wrong” :lol:
I felt the way I felt chief, if Spurs had won my (complacency if you will) clearly would have been misplaced, but that’s not how it turned out.
But if it helps you, I’m sorry for not being as nervous as you were
I was shitting bricks in 2019. I didn’t even enjoy our EL run because I was sickened over the thought of them winning the CL before us.
I do think they’ll beat United this week but it would just be mildly annoying. I’m not going to bother myself over them winning a competition I hope we aren’t competing in ever again.
And it appears you are far from alone in that feelingQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I was very confident (as it turns out completely wrongly) that we’d beat Chelsea in the final
As for Spurs? I remember being more put out that they’d got through to the final because I wanted Ajax to win the European cup (nostalgia for the 1995 Winning team). Rightly or wrongly it never crossed my mind even for a second that they’d beat Liverpool. I thought Liverpool back then were ridiculously unlucky not to be title winners, they overturned a 3-0 deficit against Barcelona in one of the most impressive European performances I’d seen from any side for years, and Spurs had crawled their way into the top four. Just didn’t seem viable to me
As I said on another thread, if they do win it, at least there's the fact that there's no disguising how bad they've been in the league this season, so it just hows up how bad the EL is, no spuds fan can call it a truly 'successful season' (though it won't stop them obvs...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Personally I think Man Utd, as bad as they are, are good at turning up and winning cups and think they have a good chance
It's hard to call. They are two really poor teams and Spurs have beaten Utd both times this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
But...Utd do have this knack of blundering their way to trophies after poor seasons. They did it last year which is why they're in the competition in the first place.
I'll be pissed off if Spurs win and the thought of them having an open top bus parade is sickening.
But...honestly, these days it is a bit of a tin pot trophy. They've pushed so many of the better sides in to the CL now that the other competitions really are the dregs of European football.
So I guess that will be my coping mechanism. This isn't like 2019. Dear God, can you imagine them winning the CL? :sick:
This would be annoying but nothing more.
Omg! As soon as the Spuds best Ajax (on my fucking birthday and celebrating prematurely when they were 0-3 down on aggregate), that was the longest three weeks of my football life (even though I was a 52 year old bloke!). I couldn't even bring myself to watch the game or check the score :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Was it just me over thinking that night?
Probably but you do youQuote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
There are lots of things I can get unnecessarily bothered by. I simply dismissed the possibility that Spurs could win it, and never really felt doubt or concern.
I don’t recall even thinking that much about the game, even on the day it was played
Of course I celebrated Origi’s goal, but never felt nervous during the game. They did dominate possession and chances in the second half but they really were quite toothless
I was just leaving on a work trip to Edinburgh and was flying. Checked my phone before we took off - 2-0 to Ajax so...lolz. Spurs gotta Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
Landed and checked my phone and...oh fuck OFF!
I thought Liverpool were favourites but I also couldn't bear watching it. I was actually driving back from something when the final was on, I knew Spurs had gone 1-0 down but nothing else.
The M25 was being a pain and I was at a standstill so I did have a cheeky check - I knew the game was over by then. Saw the result, thought "oh thank fuck" and went home a little happier!
I'm less bothered about Wednesday because although it would be a pain if they won the competition is so devalued now that as much as they'll be strutting around it'll be pretty easy to dismiss their "achievement". They've hardly swept aside the cream of European football.
I can't really remember anything about the final bar the two goals.
I think it was probably a bit shit.
It wasn’t one of the great finals noQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss
But then most of the recent finals have been a bit shit frankly
What does it matter though if your team wins.
Exactly. Who cares how your team win a final.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Sadly, a club the size of Arsenal should have won this competition by now.
Wenger's record in Europe was the biggest black mark against him.
That side from 2002-2004 should have won a CL.
Champions League is a bit of a closed shop, now more than ever
Juventus are the biggest club in Italy domestically, it made a couple of finals but got trounced by Barca and Real
As Letters said, our European record under Wenger was a black mark for him. But again I’d say that’s less outright failure to win the thing, and more than in almost twenty seasons in the competition we made the final once, and the semis twice
Arteta so far at least hasn’t done too badly in that we’ve been back in two seasons and one quarter final and one semi final. We want more and it’s right to expect more, but the disappointment of PSG aside….it was a decent European campaign that slightly elevated a frustrating season
Wenger’s record was shocking really in knockout ties. Arteta from 2 campaigns has already got us through 3 ties. Porto, PSV and Real Madrid. Which pretty much eclipses anything Wenger did during his last decade with us in the competition.
Sign him up! :unsure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG1lvk13jCM
Didn't Partey try that a few season back before he started placing his effiorts? :unsure:
Last time I remember seeing a player literally knock one out of the park was Freddie Flintoff at Edgbaston, where one of his sixes landed in the car parkQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
So, the spuds won the Ropey League and it has been more annoying than I first thought :censored:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
How many of you have come across people that claim to have supported them for years!?
The only positive is that they may have to keep Ange for at least the first quarter of the season. That is the only ray of light for me at the moment.
As for Man Utd......they are going to spend a long time getting back amongst the elite.
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Originally Posted by Chippy
In fairness, the Spurs fan I speak to most often seemed almost sheepish about it.
He only said anything at all because I posted “Spurs are on their way to Wembley” by Chas and Dave in our group what’s app
There's a parade today and some of the local schools are shutting early for it (I don't know why, we're not a million miles away but we're not that close).
It's all been a bit annoying but, honestly, fuck them - they've won the Carabao Cup of Europe at best. They've not swept aside the cream of Europe.
They played Frankfurt and some Norwegian side I can't even be arsed looking up the name of and who I'd never heard of before. They didn't exactly go toe to toe with Real Madrid and PSG.
In the final they beat the worst Utd side in a generation and I heard this morning they only had one shot on target or something.
They're second rate team who won a second rate competition.
Fuck, and I cannot stress this enough, them.
All that you say is true and yet despite knowing this you seem animated all the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
They’ve won fuck all in 17 years, of course they were going to make a song and dance about it
Spurs supporting mate (the sheepish one) said “That was an utterly shit final, but I don’t care….at least it will shut some opposition fans up about us not winning anything”
And I have to say fair enough really.
I haven’t had anyone trying to rub it in my face. Because I think deep down even they know it doesn’t change the fact that they had a shocking league season
I agree, it is a tin pot cup against teams that we have never heard of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
However, the coverage that is has been given is ridicuous and bloody annoying.
When West Ham won their tin pot European trophy two years ago I was quite pleased for them, until they started acting like dick heads over the Rice transfer.
Let them have their moment. It’s annoying but there really isn’t much you say to a Spurs fan right now that will bring them down from cloud 9 for an objective discussion. First trophy in 17 years is bound to send you loopy. I know how I felt after the 2014 FA Cup and that was 8 seasons without a trophy so imagine how they must be feeling now.
My Spud mate put it into perspective when he said this is only the third trophy he’s ever seen them win in his lifetime. :console:
When was he born?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
The two fa cup wins in the 80s were before I was born
I would have been less than a year old when they won the uefa cup
But I remember the 91 cup final where I wanted Forest to win
Strangely I don’t remember the 99 league cup win that much. Last minute goal apparently
Born in 88.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
He was too young to remember 91 so he excludes that. So it’s 99, 08 and 25. :lol:
Yeah. I don't really begrudge them their moment. I've congratulated some of the Spurs fans I know. Most of them are actually pretty reasonable and are in on the joke that it's a second rate competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
But as you say, the FA Cup win in 2014 felt brilliant because it had been a while. Most Spurs fans will have never seen a title win, you'd have to be middle aged to even have seen an FA Cup. So I get it.
But any Spurs fan strutting around claiming they're "champions of Europe" - I'll laugh in their stupid faces.
Wasn’t this also the first time no one from the Champions League was relegated to the Europa league ?
I think so - although I don't really think that should be a thing anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
The issue is so many teams are in the CL now that the Europa League is much lower quality. And why is the Conference League or whatever it's called even a thing?
In general there's far too much European football. This will never happen but the Champions League should be for champions and the Europa for the next 1 or at most 2 teams.
Women's Champions League final today!
Fairly sure Barca will have too much but at least we're there.
Yep - they guaranteed no decent teams, or even semi-decent teams, could end up in the Europa League. What's even funnier is they have another tournament on the go, below even Europa. Can you imagine the pubbers hashing it around in that one, as they vie for European "glory"? Whole thing is about making cash, literally nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
Arsenal: Van Domselaar, Fox, Williamson, Catley, McCabe, Little, Maanum, Caldentey, Kelly, Russo, Foord.
Subs: Zinsberger, Williams, Wubben-Moy, Codina, Mead, Walti, Hurtig, Pelova, Nighswonger, Blackstenius, Ilestedt, Cooney-Cross.
Barcelona: Coll, Batlle, Paredes, Leon, Rolfo, Bonmati, Patri, Putellas, Graham Hansen, Pajor, Pina.
Subs: Gemma, Roebuck, Jana, Paralluelo, Marta, Vicky, Engen, Brugts, Cano, Schertenleib, Serrajordi, Judit.
1-0 Arsenal but probably offside.
0-0 HT.
Proper European Competitions :bow:
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