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are we mediocre though? we finish in the top 5% of Professional football teams in England. If anyone of us were in the top 5% of our profession wouldn't we be happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
the issue is the repetitiveness of it all and not learning from our mistakes. we will finish top 4 regardless of if it was sign any more players or not.
I don't think we'll finish top four this year. As for being mediocre, we aren't in one respect, but we are in terms of challenging for trophies, especially the League and the CL. We finished second last year, but who can honestly say that finishing second was anything to be proud of? We were out of the title race weeks before the end of the season and, god hate them, Spuds should have finished second but they imploded.
I can agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Yeah that's pretty much where i am as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
No, of course we're not mediocre. We finished 2nd last season ffs and that was our first season in 3 without a trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
This is why I think the abuse of Wenger is OTT. He's hardly got us relegated. We all saw what Moyes did at Utd, for all his faults Wenger is much better than people like that.
But what Wenger has done, and continues to do, is to not maximise our considerable resources. There were signs that was was starting to change his policy in the transfer market with Ozil then Sanchez but last summer he didn't sign anyone of note (Cech was a good signing, to be fair, but we all knew we needed a striker) and it cost us. I think he tried to get someone better than Giroud but he failed. And he's had all summer to fix that and failed again. Once again he's left us short and it will cost us again.
Wenger deserves credit for raising our expectations to the point where the last 3 seasons have seemed disappointing, and for getting us into a position where we can compete financially, but it's increasingly clear he's not able to take us on from there and properly compete in the modern game.
Yes, about as mediocre as it is possible to be. We should be competing every year for titles, given the resources available to this club. But we don't push, we aren't ambitious, we'll do the bare minimum rather that the absolute maximum we are capable of. We do not strive for success, we settle for second best. By every measure we are ordinary, average, mediocre, unimpressive, uninspiring. Finishing second in the league doesn't mask the fact. We finished second to Leicester, a team that performed way above expectations and a team that showed everyone what is possible when you throw everything you have got at the challenge. If we'd have done the same we'd have walked the title. Because our closest rivals, in terms of financial muscle, were also ordinary, average, mediocre, does not elevate us to a higher standing. We still let ourselves down badly. We still failed to do all we could do to win. And it really does keep coming back to one man. Mr Mediocre himself. The ayatollah of average, the master of mediocrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Oh, and we play shit football. We aren't good enough to be even mediocre in that respect.
PnG and HCZ.. quit the tension and just get a room.
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Don't get jealous just because that type of thing is illegal where you come fromQuote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Go suck goatballs, FK.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
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