Except that's not what happened to Leeds. They went bust and were forced to sell their assets, including the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
There's no comparison at all, so yes, it's dumb.
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Except that's not what happened to Leeds. They went bust and were forced to sell their assets, including the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
There's no comparison at all, so yes, it's dumb.
Ok well I'm just saying his attributes are best suited to the position wide right, could he also be an accomplished central attacking midfielder I'm sure he could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
But in playing him at wing back or even on some bizarre occasions as a deep lying central midfielder like Wenger is doing is a) the square peg in round hole that Wenger does and b) reportedly the reason he has turned down a deal from us, but more likely he wants to go to Chelsea for more money and champions league football with a good chance of getting games in a thin squad.
I get the feeling that OX just wants to leave and play for a different manager and try prove himself somewhere else. I have no doubt that under someone like Klopp or Conte he would improve and would be used properly and given the right type of coaching and guidance.
I too would turn down a deal if I was him considering dross like Walcott is on 110 a week since 2014 despite bringing nothing to the table and consistently looking lost. Ox must be thinking why am I being pissed about and played all over the park and not given any importance until I enter my final contract year?!?
IF we do the same shit we do every season for the last decade, next summer is going to be a bloodbath with Ox, Ozil and Sanchez leaving. The last year of the cunts contract is going to be a humungous shit storm! :lol:
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Rapidly this great club is descending to the levels of WBA, Stoke and other also rans. Blame lies with Wenger and Kroenke. Sooner both of them go the better
relax, its not that bad. :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by rodders
tbf, he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
The type of midfielder we need in our midfield is what Ox has in his skillset.
The problem is Wenger hasnt turned anyone into a proper CM... ever. Vieira came in and dominated. Cesc didnt really become a great CM, he became more of an attacking mid and a great footballer. Ramsey had the chance but Wenger turned him into something like Cesc but not as good.
Dembele signs for Barca. 96 mill, rising to 136 mill with add-ons. Release clause is close on 400 mill.
Looks like Mbappe will go to PSG on loan, to get around FFP, and will sign on a permanent deal next season.
Football :rose:
We turned down a £10 mil bid for Gibbs earlier now we are selling jim for £7mil
No its probably worseQuote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
Poor Jim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
Hardly. Jim's a complete cunt. As well you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Apparently we've accepted 5 million, awful business but let's be honest he's sh*t and always has been, how he's lasted at this club this long when he can't defend for toffee and can't cross to save his life is beyond me, youth policy :rose:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
Wenger is too busy topping up the money pot to minimise our summer spend to bother with buying players, the guy and his tea are incapable of handling more than one deal at a time, even if it's a phantom deal or a deal for a player we have no chance of signing.
It's hilarious how he insinuated selling players keeps you very busy when asked about incoming transfers, the guys' a complete joke.
Meanwhile in the real world other clubs are signing players they need for the season without worrying about waiting periods, inflated markets, being 2% away from domination or lacking a little bit of sharpness.
Yeah I think it's this too, I think OX would improve as a player at Chelsea under Conte.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
I think Sanchez & Ozil are leaving because they can join better teams who will have a much better chance of winning the big prizes.
All of this is to do with Wenger, none of them appear to rate him.
I think they rate him as a loser who is going to make them losers too. These are guys who have won world and euro medals, being asked to sign up to guaranteed mediocrity. For less than they could earn at a winning club. There's nothing we can offer them while Wenger is here, except failure and embarrassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I dont get the impression that top clubs are dying to sign Ozil, I think he will end up staying or going to some rich Turkish club.
Nah. They all know he's on a free next season. He's a player who will improve your team overall, rather than a one-man title winning machine like Alexis would be in the gypo line-up. There will be plenty of interest in Ozil come January, not that Arsenal will have a say in any of it because we've allowed his contract to run down because we refuse to get involved in the modern day realities of football. Same shit with Ox. Everyone is saying he's not "worth" 180K. Of course he's not worth that. Not in a sane world. But if you want him in your team in the crazy world of football then that's what he costs - more than that in fact, because it sounds like he's turned the offer down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Refusing to get with the real world.
Refusing to play players in their proper positions.
Dropping players when they are playing well, persisting with players when they are off form.
No tactics.
No in-game management.
No ambition on the pitch.
No ambition in the boardroom.
No ambition in the transfer market.
No trace that this club is serious about challenging for the major honours.
These are the reasons our players are sitting in limbo, waiting to restart their careers next year.
Joke owner. Joke board. Sick joke of a manager. Joke club. Everyone can see it and they'll just watch, wait, see what can be salvaged and take their pick for free.
Muatafi haz agreed terms with Inter Milan according to sky.
Bit weird this, nobody expected Mustafi to be sold after just one season esp after selling Gabriel only last week!
Whatever is happening at the club, something fishy is going on.
Well we needed CB, so Wenger sells two. What's odd about that? It's Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
I agree with most of what you are saying but I don't think Ozil is that in demand, he's a luxury player and needs the team built around him. He is a world class talent no doubt but not a must have like Sanchez is for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I mean what kind of genius leaves two World Cup winning CBs on the bench to play 2 left backs in there?!? Takes 35 years management to be able to call shots like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Dude. It's Wenger. What's your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
I think that's the problem a lot of people have. Last player you build a team around is Ozil. Ozil's a refined part that you fit into an already refined engine. Stick him in a tractor like Arsenal and forget about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
yupQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:unsure: Not sure about that logic applying to World Class players. So if he were to sign for a team lower than Arsenal they shouldn't build around him? Would he be a flop there too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He's not a flop, he's one of our best players. Need to get that fact straight first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Yes, it would be a complete waste of time for him to sign for a team filled with average or inferior players. Then again, in most cases it would be a complete waste of time for any top level player to sign for an average or inferior team. The tactics those teams have to deploy just to compete would make building the team around any one player an irrelevancy.
https://www.facebook.com/officialdug...1696684146982/
Mustafi misses the food and weather in Italy apparently.
Robbie's version of a rant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5NlTnbc-YI
TLDW: WENGER! Spend some fucking money you cunt!
Reports on Twitter say he's set to join an english club by the end of the window
That doesn't deserve its own thread at the moment.
Nothing to do with Arsenal transfers deserves a thread tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
For some reason we're being heavily linked with Lemar.
If that happens, NQ :rose:
Good luck to you. He's a superb player and a rising talent and, tbf, he'd see his career progress under Klopp as opposed to ruined under Wenger. I enjoy watching Lemar play and it would be sad if he signed for us and ended up becoming another tippy tap merchant too fearful to lose the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firmino Is Boss
Ozil to Dortmund looks on. That will make some people happy I guess.
Gypos ready to pay 75 mill for Aubemayang.
Lemar to Liverpool for 55 million.
Mustafi to Juve provided they meet the 35 mill valuation.
No news whatsoever on potential transfers in for Arsenal. It's all about how the squad is rushing to lifeboats.
Gypo bid for Alexis will be 70 mill plus somebody called Jason Denayer.
I doubt we will even be able to attract anybody of note let alone sign anybody. Our rep is in the gutter right now, we have a bunch of our best players all wanting out and the fact we offered the likes of Sanchez & Ox those contracts and they still want out tells us all we need to know.
A couple of seasons out of top 4 is going to be very damaging for this club in the long run.
I see Le Grove is still trying to suggest Gazidis is some kind of Svengali who has big ambitions for the club and he is being hampered by Kroenke and Wenger.
Come off it, after all his bullshit in April the guy clearly has no self respect and was trying to deflect criticism from himself. Whether he wanted Wenger gone or not is immaterial he's the chief executive if he has absolutely no clout and yet tries to spin that Wenger was the best avaliable option for the club shows exactly what he is. Let's not forget he was around before Kroenke and he oversaw Wengers power grab.
Been listening to the Arsecast Extra this morning and Arseblog was essentially saying the same thing. He made a failed powerplay last year to get rid of the manager, got cucked by Kroenke & Wenger and instead of resigning with integrity, prefers to stick around despite being emasculated because it's too much of a cushy paypacket (£2 million a year plus bonuses) & job to give up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I suppose I've been guilty of perhaps giving too much credit to Gazidis on here but he at least made a concerted attempt at change, interviewing potential new managerial targets and attempting to introduce a DoF which is far better than anything Wenger or Kroenke have done to reverse course.
I guess it's a Trump like situation where because the bar and expectations are so low with fans absolutely desperate for anything, even the most minimal attempt to show some basic competence or initiative is praised.
And I suggested the summer would see the end of either Wenger or Gazidis because the loser in that struggle would have too much dignity to hang around and would damage their reputation irreparably by doing so. Just goes to show how out of touch I have become with a corporate world I escaped years ago. These days dignity doesn't enter into it.