Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

Yes, we won the FA cup with a thrilling 3-2 victory over a near relegated Hull side in extra time, becoming the new name on the trophy after Wigan - it makes the last 10 years of pain all disappear. Fuck the FA cup, I want my team to be competing with the top teams in England & Europe as per the promises made to us by our manager & the board. Our highest points total for years, wonderful & still struggled to finsih 4th. Your excuses of the Manc & Chavs money are blown away by the fact that Liverpool should & could have won it last year.
Why does winning the FA cup give you the idea that its a springboard, when has his previous trophies acted as a springboard?
We WILL NOT compete over a season unless we address the issues we have in the team & that means buying quality players in positions of weakness. No one knows if we've spent well this Summer - that has yet to be proven but we start the season with a defensive midfieder & Captian that shoudn't be anywhere near an Arsenal shirt - again.

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Quality post.

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

No - Sonogo has the basic ingredients to be shite.

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He's strong, makes a nuisance of himself and covers a lot of ground with his gangly stride.

I know he can barely kick a ball but still...

Man City lost in their final to a definitely relegated Wigan. As the new saying goes, you have to win it to win it. Transfer window not slammed shut yet. It's a far cry from seasons past where we'd be waiting until the last day in the hope of signing anyone bar that free bloke. And lamenting the fact our star player just pissed off. There was always the possibility a total transformation of the club would not be instant.

Bit laughable that we seem to be heading into the season with a weaker defence than last season, a lightweight Arteta as captain and apparent mainstay CDM, Giroud and an unclassified Sanogo leading the line, and folks are saying we've improved.

If things stay as is, it will be another failed transfer window for Wenger.

Some days left for him to sort shit out, but I'm not getting my hopes up that Wenger will make the necessary signings needed for us to seriously compete for the title over the course of the season and get beyond the knockout stage of the ECL.

Forstyhe confirmed. He's flying into London now to tackle the biggest problem in world football, Diaby's fitness. Harry Potter was not available, but this guy comes with a good reputation.

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Originally Posted by Syn

I think the Sanogo-Adebayor comparisons are fair but very optimistic. Sanogo seems to pick the right options but can't sort his feet out, and I don't agree he has the basic ingredients. His shooting technique is all over the place.

Ideally he would have a loan spell to get more games but Wenger has said a couple of times that he has worked hard on improving him and he wants to continue with it. It'd be one of his biggest achievements if he got him playing like Adebayor because at the moment he plays as well as he dances.

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Adebayor could at least celebrate score without falling over though

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Originally Posted by Penguin

That's why you need to have someone good enough to actually challenge the first choice CBs for a place in the first team. If you have someone who is nowhere near the level of the first two like Vermaelen, he'll know that he will only play if there's an injury and wont keep his place. Obviously nobody's going to be happy to do that. It's different from midfielders and forwards because they'll always get some minutes as a sub but generally managers don't play around with CB subs or even rotate them much because you want a settled back-line.

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Yeah exactly this. You don't go out to buy a specific "Third/Fourth" choice centreback otherwise you'll just end up with deadwood on the books (see Squillachi). You bring in a top quality first choice CB who will challenge Mertesacker and Koscienly for their spots and who can come in when needed without a drop in quality. See exactly what Wenger has done with Chesney by bringing in Ospina. As good as they've been, there's no reason why Kosicienly and Mertesacker shouldn't face the same level of competition for their spots or assume they're guaranteed to always start.

As much I do think lol Grove talks bollocks at times, I do agree with him regarding Wenger possibly rotating Vermelean in a bit more last seasons, especially against the shit PL teams at home on the rare occasions he was actually fit. Just so he wasn't isolated from the team ...... doubtful but we could have perhaps convinced him to sign a new contract if that happened.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If we knew it would be hard getting a 3rd choice CB, we shouldn’t have sold Vermaelen, regardless of whatever any on GW thinks of his quality. Monreal shouldn’t be an option as CB and will most likely be needed to fill in for Gibbs whose very injury prone. We’re stretching ourselves thin for no reason and making negotiations harder for ourselves.

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Tbh given how injury prone he is I'm not sure he could really have been useful this year as well. I mean he's injured right now so it's hardly like he could have provided cover until Mertesacker regained his fitness for the start of the season.

I don't think selling Vermaelen was necessarily wrong, he was a good servant, patient and professional the entire time which I partly suspect was because Wenger promised him that he could leave this summer if he kept his mouth shut. He was in the last year of his contract and we got a good fee for him as well. The problem is that it's happening a bit latter in the window than would have been ideal, mainly because of the WC.

As for replacements, unless Miguel proves that his Leicester loan spell wasn't indicative of his quality (Gibbs also had a poor loan) then we certainly need to bring someone. Would take Howedes (who've we been linked to).

News just reaching us Hayley, Jim White has taken to Vine to tell the world that:

"Arsenal will do more business, and a big name as well. Certain"

Jim White has literally never been wrong.

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Originally Posted by Syn

I think the Sanogo-Adebayor comparisons are fair but very optimistic. Sanogo seems to pick the right options but can't sort his feet out, and I don't agree he has the basic ingredients. His shooting technique is all over the place.

Ideally he would have a loan spell to get more games but Wenger has said a couple of times that he has worked hard on improving him and he wants to continue with it. It'd be one of his biggest achievements if he got him playing like Adebayor because at the moment he plays as well as he dances.

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Yes I tend to agree...his shooting technique looks a shade better than Chamakh's at times..... but his dancing is definitely more coordinated than his football.....even if he did trip trying to celebrate.

I just hope he can progress far quicker than it looks like he will......and the Adebayor comparison is far less embarrassing than the ones to Anelka.

Who compared him to Anelka? :lol:

He was electric at this age, Sanogo is electrified.