Match Reaction vs Fulham 10/11/12

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I don't need to everyone knows it, I'm not wasting my time sorry :lol:

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Well no, i never said that, but if your going to accuse me then show me proof.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

call me crazy but your criteria seems completely implausible? the 3 things i would attribute to tevez is beating players (pace + strength), scoring from anywhere (scored from free kicks in the past, headers, chips) and create's a lot (because of his engine).

he's also 5 ft 8 while aguero is 5 ft 7 so you cant say he has more aerial threat. they're both the same size.

as for the last point forget about age. we are talking about now not the future.

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I don't think Tevez is great at beating players as he's not the most skilled, he strong and most of his goals and due to work rate and brute force...though he has a decent shot, he's not really a dribbler.

Tevez played for West Ham and Man U before City, so had time to adapt to a new league...Aguero signed before last season from Spain, in addition age plays a part as players get older and reach their peak 28-29 they get better...Aguero is nowhere near that at 24 (25 in June) but Tevez is there at 29 in February.

Couple of quotes from someone whose name i wont mention but will instead use the immortal line

As a great man once said

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Aguero will struggle in this league big time and he knows is thats why he will go to madrid where he can look class

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Meh Rather he wen't City Rather then Chelsea Can't see him doing anything good there tbh,

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i don't think he will tear up this league as people think

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:popcorn:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Nite nite Charlie :wave:

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

The thing is Ferguson was willing to let him go in the end, not saying he's not very good because he clearly is, I just think he lacks that special something...that for example Aguero has.

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you've moved from overrated to very good so i'm not sure what you're trying to say. most people would agree aguero is better, especially with years on his side. tevez is seen as a saviour at west ham for his time there, very effective from the bench at united and fergie moved him on because he was acting like a dick. which he has shown now. excellent player though. just like suarez.

Cripps on of GW's best posters :bow:

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

you've moved from overrated to very good so i'm not sure what you're trying to say. most people would agree aguero is better, especially with years on his side. tevez is seen as a saviour at west ham for his time there, very effective from the bench at united and fergie moved him on because he was acting like a dick. which he has shown now. excellent player though. just like suarez.

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I think people treat him a some sort of world beater, I don't think he is...he's very good but he's not top bracket for me and will never hit the heights of the very best strikers in the world.

At West Ham he ran around a lot and worked hard but went a long period without goals when he first came, he then got some goals at the tail end of his stay there. At Man U, I'm not sure he totally convinced Ferguson, if I remember correctly (correct me if I'm wrong), he was on the bench a fair amount rather than a starter.

Was great for City in his first season, what I will say though is that he doesn't seem as explosive as someone like Aguero, I think he's easier to stop and less likely to score a goal out of nowhere.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Couple of quotes from someone whose name i wont mention but will instead use the immortal line

As a great man once said








:popcorn:

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Like i said, i never said he would flop, not one of those quotes says that.

I never said i never said he would struggle.

End of the day if someone is going to accuse me, least do it word for word.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I don't think Tevez is great at beating players as he's not the most skilled, he strong and most of his goals and due to work rate and brute force...though he has a decent shot, he's not really a dribbler.

Tevez played for West Ham and Man U before City, so had time to adapt to a new league...Aguero signed before last season from Spain, in addition age plays a part as players get older and reach their peak 28-29 they get better...Aguero is nowhere near that at 24 (25 in June) but Tevez is there at 29 in February.

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but surely work rate and strength are the two most important attributes for being able to beat players? :lol: you cant just pluck words out of nowhere and pretend they have no correlation to a certain attribute when they clearly do. if you'd said something like x doesnt have pace so that hinders his ability to beat players then id see your point, but you're basing your judgment on attributes he clearly has. then using those attributes in the wrong context.

and im not sure where adaptation comes into your theory because arguero has a good goal scoring ratio, just not as good as the one held by tevez. surely you're adaptation theory only comes into play if aguero was performing badly, thus him needing more time to adapt to the english game? it has little to do with the tevez vs aguero argument. in fact you're saying aguero will get better with age, which is surely acknowledging the fact that tevez is better right now, because as you say, aguero isnt at his peak?

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I think people treat him a some sort of world beater, I don't think he is...he's very good but he's not top bracket for me and will never hit the heights of the very best strikers in the world.

At West Ham he ran around a lot and worked hard but went a long period without goals when he first came, he then got some goals at the tail end of his stay there. At Man U, I'm not sure he totally convinced Ferguson, if I remember correctly (correct me if I'm wrong), he was on the bench a fair amount rather than a starter.

Was great for City in his first season, what I will say though is that he doesn't seem as explosive as someone like Aguero, I think he's easier to stop and less likely to score a goal out of nowhere.

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i don't know why you're going out of your way so much to prove that tevez is not all that when you think he's very good - you should have far more positives to say about someone so good but it doesn't seem that way.

maybe you think there is some sort of contest between aguero and tevez here but really there isn't. people think aguero is better. they also think tevez is excellent. that's it. tevez being so good doesn't detract from how good aguero is y'know.