Disagree. What motive does DD have to appease Arsenal fans? He's no longer part of the set up? I'm sceptical about AW spending, but I think DD is saying what he believes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
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Disagree. What motive does DD have to appease Arsenal fans? He's no longer part of the set up? I'm sceptical about AW spending, but I think DD is saying what he believes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He's Wenget's best mate.
All the more reason for not to talk shit then, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Can't see why DD would bother saying this, all the same. If he were still with the club, I could understand DD being used to sell season tickets for next season, for example, but he's not - and is hardly likely to want to 'appease' fans to help the current board. Makes more sense to take it straight and conclude that DD believes it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Better response than mine, dammit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
As much as I like DD and would like him back as he has contacts and wants the club to be the best, he also thinks Wenger is still the man to bring the glory days back (not so good).
When it comes to Wenger, his judgment is clouded....he still believes in a guy who's past his sell by date by a considerable numbers of years. I'm not wasting my energy getting excited about a Wenger spending spree....it's not gonna happen.
Don;t get me wrong. Neither am I - but IMO DD is saying what he thinks - not playing to an agenda. I would like to see him back with Wenger's successor - he would help him a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
I'm over itQuote:
Ray Parlour has told Arsenal fans to ‘get over’ Robin van Persie’s move to Manchester United.
The Red Devils completed a £24million switch to Old Trafford last summer and has already won the Premier League trophy, a prize that eluded him during his eight year stay at the Gunners.
Home supporters at the Emirates are expected to show the Dutchman their feelings on Sunday, when the two teams meet, but Highbury legend Parlour claims the Emirates faithful need to move on.
“Manchester United have been absolutely fantastic this year,” he told the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast show. “They’ve bounced back from last season and Sir Alex Ferguson and the players have done a great job.
“If I was playing of course I would applaud, they’ve been the best team this year, there’s no question about it.
“There will be a bit of friction between Robin van Perise and the fans, but you’ve got to get over it and move on. He’s switched to Manchester United. We’d have loved to see him in an Arsenal shirt this season, but it wasn’t to be.
There will be a bit of friction between Robin van Perise and the fans, but you’ve got to get over it and move on
— Ray Parlour
“You don’t want to sell your best players to your rivals. Robin van Persie going to Man United was a big blow for Arsenal fans.”
Arsenal are currently third in the Premier League table, but a Champions League place is far from secured, and Parlour insists the Gunners must finish in the top four to attract players who can fire club back into the title reckoning.
“It’s a massive summer for Arsenal,” he added. “The big players want to play in the Champions League so how can you attract those sort of people if you’re not in it? Arsenal is one of those clubs that could be massive but they’ve got to make that extra step.
“They need to go out and spend that extra bit of money on better players, to make the team a better side. They need three or four top end players and then they can compete with Man City and Man United.”
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Wrighty :bow:Quote:
SOME people will say Arsenal’s celebrations at Newcastle were a bit over the top.
I understand why they may feel this. It looked as though they had just won the Premier League title rather than finished fourth.
And you could argue that the team seemed pleased with mediocrity.
But I think you have to have close links to Arsenal or Tottenham to realise the importance of Sunday afternoon, as this was arguably bigger than any North London derby.
To win 1-0 at Newcastle and seal the final Champions League spot ahead of Spurs was absolutely massive for the Gunners.
You have to understand the relief of the Arsenal players who had overcome a seven-point gap with their rivals following the defeat in the North London derby. That was a decent achievement.
Yes, it is a sign of the times. Arsenal are nowhere near Manchester United and I think the club’s fans have now accepted this.
Yet to finish below Spurs — and end up with a Europa League spot — would have been horrendous for everyone connected with Arsenal.
This is the club with the fourth- ighest wage bill in English football so Arsene Wenger and his team have finished exactly where they should — fourth.
Arsenal have neither over-achieved nor under-achieved.
I am certainly not saying it has been a great season, far from it — as there have been some real low points along the way.
Without doubt, I would swap a trophy for fourth place any day of the week, whatever Wenger may have previously said.
Eight years and counting for a piece of silverware is simply not good enough.
This team certainly needs improving in more than just a couple of areas.
Arsenal need another goalkeeper, two centre-halves and a top-quality central midfielder. There also needs to be more strength in depth.
Wenger also has to buy an excellent striker who will score over 20 league goals. My choice would be Edinson Cavani and this, of course, is where the problems start.
It seems Arsenal have money to spend this summer and Wenger has promised to buy big.
The problem is that the amount being mentioned is £70million, including wages.
And that does not get you a lot if you are competing with the biggest clubs in Europe.
You would probably get Cavani for £70m including wages. And that’s it. Arsenal would be unable to afford anyone else.
Arsenal will have the same problems if they are looking at Atletico Madrid’s Radamel Falcao or Dortmund’s Robert Lewandowski.
Realistically, those players I’ve mentioned would probably choose Chelsea, Manchester City or United because of the money.
The name of Wayne Rooney keeps cropping up but I cannot see him joining Arsenal.
I am not sure why he would leave United, who are in such a good place right now.
I think Chelsea will be a force under Jose Mourinho next season.
United will still do well and City can once again buy who they want so I fear that fourth is the best Arsenal can hope for in the Premier League.
This is why Wenger has to prioritise the cups.
Winning one of these competitions would be fantastic, which is why the losses to Bradford and Blackburn this season were so disappointing.
Wenger will be in the final year of his contract next season.
Who knows what will happen in 12 months’ time? But most importantly of all, I want to see Arsenal actually win something.
And then we can all have a proper celebration.
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Love this guy
Won't be jackQuote:
David O'Leary does not expect his Arsenal appearances record to be broken - but he'd love to see Jack Wilshere do it.
The former centre back left the Club 20 years ago this week after playing his final game for Arsenal in the FA Cup final replay win over Sheffield Wednesday at Wembley.
I would be delighted if it's someone like Jack, because then I will know that a tremendous player - who I am sure will improve and improve - played at Arsenal for a long time
David O'Leary
That was O'Leary's 722nd appearance, spread over an 18-year-old Highbury career. He wasn't quite a one-club man - making a handful of appearances for Leeds United after leaving Arsenal - but O'Leary believes the movement of modern-day footballers makes his tally hard to beat.
"I'd love to be proved wrong but I just can't see my record being beaten," he told Arsenal.com.
"It's a lot of games. When you look at the numbers I think we were averaging 50 games a season. I didn't think it was a big deal, that was what you had to do, you had to play two or three times a week.
"It's hard to see someone going past my appearances but records are there to be broken and if it is I would be delighted if it's someone like Jack, because then I will know that a tremendous player - who I am sure will improve and improve - played at Arsenal for a long time. And that can only benefit the Club."
O'Leary departed in style two decades ago, lifting the FA Cup in his final moments as an Arsenal player after Andy Linighan's last-gasp winner in May 1993. The Irishman won six major trophies at Highbury and he says his loyalty to the Gunners came naturally.
"All I can say with myself is that it wasn't a hard thing to do," said O'Leary. "It was an absolute pleasure and a privilege to play there for 20 years. It is a great club, and it was no hardship to stay all that time - the honour was mine.
"It was a club that looked after you, it was easy to be there. I'm amazed I lasted that long and everything I have, I owe it all to Arsenal Football Club."
It won't be Diaby either.
Probably would have been Cesc had he not left, but he did. Oh well.
Say what you like about Robson and I'm not a fan by any means but he's totally right hereQuote:
Stewart Robson claims Arsene Wenger is scared to spend ‘big money’ this summer – because he will be accountable if his acquisitions flop.
The Gunners have failed to replace some of the their top stars over the last few seasons, having let Robin van Persie, Samir Nasri and Cesc Fabregas all leave the Emirates in recent years.
And former Highbury favourite Robson believes the Frenchman needs to splash the cash when the transfer window opens, if the north London club are to have any chance of winning the Premier League trophy next term.
“If Arsene Wenger goes out and spends big money, say he buys three big players, then he is then culpable when they don’t succeed,” he told the Sports Bar.
“All the time that he is selling players and not spending big, when they come fourth, everyone says ‘Arsenal are doing OK because they are not spending what the other clubs spend’.
“As soon as he spends big money Arsenal fans and everyone in the media will expect them to compete for the Premier League and the Champions League.
If Arsene Wenger goes out and spends big money, say he buys three big players, then he is then culpable when they don’t succeed
— Stewart Robson
“If he doesn’t do that then he puts himself under pressure and that’s why he doesn’t spend. There’s been money there for years.
“They’ve got a chance [to win the Premier League] but they’ve got to spend some money wisely.
“Arsenal have got to make sure that Arsene Wenger, in my view, coaches the players better and gets a better understanding of what it takes to win the title.
“Although they had an excellent run towards the end of the season, I still saw flaws in their game.
“I don’t think Arsene Wenger has learnt his lesson from one season to the next. We’ve heard this for so many years, ‘If Arsenal can get into the Champions League then next year will be the year' but we’ve been hearing this for the last six or seven years.”
And Robson went on to claim that, should Arsenal not taste success next season, the Frenchman’s position at the helm would come under serious pressure.
“If you’re an average club then you need continuity because you can’t keep getting rid of players when a new manager comes in,” he added.
“I know we’ve seen Sir Alex Ferguson stay at Man United for a long time and get that continuity and be successful, but look at other big clubs, look at Chelsea. They have sacked their manager many, many times and are still successful and Man City have won trophies in recent years.
“Arsenal have kept their manager and kept continuity, but continuity of being just above average at the moment.
“That can’t be right. So at some point Arsene Wenger has got to change or the club have got to change Arsene Weneger and this has to be the season.”
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Robson is a twat.
True but even twats talk sense sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
^ He did that on purpose, right?
You said "say what you like about him", so I did :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
He talks sense about it being Wengers last chance, and that if we're still stagnating at the end of his contract, it shouldn't be renewed. I think everyone gets that.
The rest of it is nonsense though.
i wondered when that **** would appear again. hes been very quiet recently because the club have just proved him wrong again and again.
Robson's mouth is full of shitty diarrhoea.
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Originally Posted by Cripps
Bitter twat. One minute he's slagging the club for not spending, now he's pre-slagging in case we spend. Sounds like he's unsettled we may have some cash this year and could challenge his beloved AnyoneButArsenal FCQuote:
...then he is then culpable when they don’t succeed
He is a twat.
i still want a change in manager but robson just needs to fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
He's a sewer rat that should be doused with an accelerant and be set ablaze
robson is spot on. the truth hurts.
It is a shame people react to the man rather than what he says.
Is it a way of not dealing with the truths he has said?
It isn't a shame at all. He does not offer anything that isn't already covered here.
And he is a twat.
No, I don't have a need to deal with anything that twat says, as he is a twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
I've long questioned Wenger in the transfer market and been concerned about what he would do if given money - I don't need that twat's 'contribution'.
Genuine question
Why is he seen as a twat?
His playing career was before my time. No idea if he was any good. Articles I've seen of him call him a highbury favourite though so must be something after.
He has been critical of Wenger but so have many others.
He wasn't a favourite if we're talking figures like Brady, Rocastle, Merson. A competent player with potential that was never realised. Injured all the time as I recall. On a par with Stephen Hughes, could have been something, ended up nothing much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
As for him being a twat, our anger and bitterness comes from wanting to see the club do better. His is evidently personal and he plainly wants to see the club in the gutter. We're stupid fans who love the club. He's a twat who loathes it.
Yes. He's a twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He sounds bitte but his theory will be put to the test this summer.
Hope Wenger listensQuote:
Arsenal legends Adams and Pires urge summer investment
After recovering to reach Champions League qualification this season, the former Gunners stars want Arsene Wenger to spend big on top-quality recruits to end their trophy drought
Former Arsenal duo Tony Adams and Robert Pires have urged the club to spend heavily this summer.
The Gunners clinched fourth place ahead of neighbours Tottenham on the last day of the Premier League season to secure Champions League football for next term but, after another trophyless season, calls for investment are growing.
Adams, who captained the Gunners to 10 major trophies during his 22 years at the club, believes that manager Arsene Wenger must invest in the squad, prioritising the defence.
"The best players and the best teams win championships," he told Sky Sports. "Lately Arsenal have become very solid and Laurent Koscielny and Per Mertesacker have gained confidence together but, defensively, I think they are still short - I'd like to see them sign another centre-back, a couple of full-backs and possibly a keeper."
The former England captain also urged fans to be patient with the young team, with the hurdle of winning their first trophy the most crucial to overcome.
"The fans are desperate for a trophy of some sort," Adams added. "I would like the players to get used to winning; if you have never had that experience of crossing the line as a winner you don't know what it is like to be a winner.
"Jack Wilshere is very important to the club but you can't rush him. I think he has played more games than Arsene would have wanted him to play following his injury but he's such an influential player for us."
Likewise, former 'Invincible' Pires believes that Arsenal need to heavily invest in the squad this summer but, importantly, they must retain their long-serving manager.
"Wenger built Arsenal so he is very important to the players and needs to stay," the Frenchman observed.
"In my opinion I think Arsenal need to buy English players. Wenger has changed the philosophy at the club, he brought in young players like Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Aaron Ramsey; these players are very good for the future but now they need to buy some players with experience to give a good mix."
Adams hasn't made 12,000,000 transfers, how did his management career go? (I haven't forgiven him for his awful autobiog), but we will need Sagna replacement & Pires basically says buy Rooney, bound to happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
Freddie speaks senseQuote:
Arsenal should not celebrate fourth place - Ljungberg
A final-day victory over Newcastle prompted scenes of elation among the Gunners but the Swede believes that only an end to the club's eight-year trophy drought is success
Arsenal should not treat finishing fourth as a cause for celebration, according to former Gunners legend Freddie Ljungberg.
Arsene Wenger's men saw off a stiff challenge from north London rivals Tottenham with a 1-0 victory over Newcastle at St James' Park on the final day of the season, prompting elation at the final whistle.
Should they negotiate a two-legged qualifier, next season will be Arsenal's 16th consecutive campaign in the Champions League but the club's egiht-year wait for silverware goes on and Ljungberg, who won two Premier League titles and three FA Cups in his time with the Gunners, believes that only trophies should spark such feelings of joy.
"I'm not too happy about them celebrating fourth place," he told reporters. "I'm from the old school where, if you don't win a trophy every year, then it is a big failure.
"We will see what happens in the summer and hopefully Arsenal will have a better team next season."
Thierry gets it. What a man what a legendQuote:
Thierry Henry: "If you're truly an Arsenal man, it's not about being fourth, it's about finishing above Tottenham!"
Henry :bow:
Regarding this season, I can't argue with that at all.
Yep. The joy from this season was edging out Sperz. CL football was an afterthought.
Full articleQuote:
Thierry Henry: Kicking Tottenham out of the top four is the only thing Arsenal have to celebrate
The Gunners' all-time leading goalscorer believes his former club should strive for more and hopes their delight on the final day was because they had finished above their rivals
Arsenal legend Thierry Henry hopes his former club were celebrating on the final day of the season because they beat Tottenham to a top-four finish - and not because they qualified for the Champions League.
The Gunners triumphed over Newcastle on the Premier League's final day to finish above their north London adversaries and clinch the final spot in Europe's premier club competition.
As a fan of the club, Henry admits that finishing above Spurs feels like winning a trophy but believes finishing in the top four should be considered the minimum expectation for Arsene Wenger's team.
"For me as a fan or if I was a player at Arsenal, finishing in the top four would have been normal," Henry told Sky Sports.
"We saved our season and that was it because you always want to win and I know people go on about the pictures and all of this celebration.
"But I can tell you I think it was more the fact that for any Arsenal player, when you really feel the shirt and really play for the club, putting Tottenham out of the top four, and I really do hope that’s what they were celebrating about.
"Because that is the only thing you can celebrate about. If you are an Arsenal man through-and-through that is like winning something for me. And I also said it when we did it to them in 2006 that it wasn't the fact we qualified for the Champions League, it is because we kicked them out of it and we went in."
Wenger has never failed to secure Champions League qualification since his arrival at the club in 1996 and Henry admits he is struggling to contemplate an Arsenal team without the Frenchman in the dugout.
"For me it's very difficult for me to see Arsenal play, one day, without Arsene on the bench," he acknowledged. Whatever, after, people can say 'oh yeah they won, they didn't win' but for me there I will see Arsenal play without Arsene on the bench, its going to be weird.
"So I'd just love to have him there all the time. We all know that's not going to happen, one day he's going to have to go. But it will be hard as he's not thinking of leaving one day. It will happen eventually, we all know it, but I don't see it."
thierry spot on. seems like the rumours about him supporting usmanov might have been true then.
Time Usmanov came home.